Karman Crossing Challenge (Stock or mod)

[Andetch]

Karman Crossing Challenge!

This challenge is simple (maybe). Using only air breathing engines you must get as high as you can. The KSC has been instructed to develop a means of getting thrill seeking kerbals into space without rocket engines! Why? Why not!

Launch from either VAB or SPH.

You must cross the Karman line (70KM)

Only air breathing engines allowed, no nukes, no srb, no lfo engines!

Use parachutes on the way down if you want.

Staging allowed.

Any mods used please declare it.

Scores to be worked out by; (part count * cost)/height achieved = score (With two decimal places) lower scores are better!

For a landing at KSC or Island Runway, subtract 1 from the total score. You may not crash to claim the bonus! All parts launched must be landed (but you can separate and land parts separately if you have the vessel control mods).

Death trap class is okay. 

More kerbals = more kudos

Post your submission with picture showing;

• Vehicle in the VAB/SPH with part count and cost showing.
• F3 readout of height achieved.
• Any pictures of the flight you want to add.
• Craft file/kerbalx link if you have it.
• To prove landings, please also submit a picture of your vehicle on takeoff, and landed after mission.

https://kerbalx.com/Andetch/Karaman-Crosser

My Entry - Stock

I completely crashed the landing, leaving only the pod and some scattered debris on the runway.

My score: 3.21

• 17,795 * 20 = 355,900
• 355,900/110,956 = 3.2075777786
• No landing modifier

 

Leader board:

@Marschig with -0.87

@hoioh with - 0.24

@TaRebelSheep with 2.77

@Lisias with -0.64

@Bitrefresh with 0.84

Me, 3.21

Edited April 14, 2018 by Andetch
Leaderboard

[KingDominoIII]

Gonna try this.

[TaRebelSheep]

Indeed, this looks like fun. Time to pull out the shock cone intakes.

[neistridlar]

Unmistakably and Andecht plane, I can recognize those from miles away . Anyways, expect my entry in a few days.

[Marschig]

https://imgur.com/a/BjskK

5 * 4164 / 161169 = 0.12918117

Score: 0.13

[Andetch]

7 minutes ago, neistridlar said:

Unmistakably and Andecht plane, I can recognize those from miles away . Anyways, expect my entry in a few days.

Yeah, I love those ivnerse tail pieces as nose cones, haha!

Just now, Marschig said:

https://imgur.com/a/BjskK

5 * 4164 / 161169 = 0.12918117

Score: 0.13

@Marschig, Have you got an image of the final F3 screen or must we take your fantastic hieght on trust?

[Marschig]

11 minutes ago, Andetch said:

Have you got an image of the final F3 screen or must we take your fantastic hieght on trust?

Yes, in album:

11 minutes ago, Marschig said:

https://imgur.com/a/BjskK

Everyone can reproduce this in five minutes

Edited March 30, 2018 by Marschig

[Andetch]

4 minutes ago, Marschig said:

Yes, in album:

Yeah, i saw that after posting my response! Excuse me I just woke up, haha!

So I make that; 

4,164 x 5 = 20,820

20,820 / 161169 = 0.1291811701

Score = 0.13

We both have the same numbers, welcome to the leaderboard, glad you didn't do a ksc landing or you would be in negative figures! 

Hope you enjoyed the challenge and thanks for taking part!

[TaRebelSheep]

I have realised that with whiplashes, getting to space is surprisingly easy. (not cheap though)

[TaRebelSheep]

 

 

https://kerbalx.com/TaRebelSheep/Aeris-3A-KC-challenge

Ignore the crashed into VAB message, that happened after the landing. I swear, I reached 80000m ish but i reloaded a quicksave and the flight results don't carry over.

Score: 2.77

Edited March 30, 2018 by TaRebelSheep

[Andetch]

30 minutes ago, TaRebelSheep said:

 

 

https://kerbalx.com/TaRebelSheep/Aeris-3A-KC-challenge

Ignore the crashed into VAB message, that happened after the landing. I swear, I reached 80000m ish but i reloaded a quicksave and the flight results don't carry over.

Score: 2.77

I make that a 2.77 with the altitude shown, however I am not sure about the "ksc landing" part, but we are not counting crashing into the VAB roof as "landed at KSC or Island runway, you must not crash" so no bonus -1 multiplier.....(feel like I should be very strict about a landing with all parts intact)....

Starting to feel my entry was too easy to beat!

Edited March 30, 2018 by Andetch

[Lisias]

Is the dispute for the last place still open? :-)

Edited March 30, 2018 by Lisias
bad grammar. sorry

[hoioh]

First attempt at crossing, not as good as @Marschig, but still below 1:

Score: 10562 x 15 / 111447 -1 = 0.42157258607230342674096207165738

Album:

https://imgur.com/a/uh66R

[hoioh]

And another attempt: fewer parts, stronger engine, higher cost though, but higher altitude: https://imgur.com/a/gIY1N

Score: 13307 x 11 / 150852 - 1 = -0.02966483705883912709145387532151

Yay! first one to achieve a negative score!

(Let's do that again with the cheaper engine)

Okay, I can do better than that, cheaper engine, lower altitude, same number of parts: https://imgur.com/a/iGl3i

9557 x 11 / 138105 - 1 = -0.23878932696136997212266029470331

Almost a quarter point negative

[Lego_Prodigy]

doesn't a rapier have a rocket mode? thats technically cheating.

Unless you remove ALL oxidizer from the craft

 

[RedPandaz]

2 minutes ago, Lego_Prodigy said:

doesn't a rapier have a rocket mode? thats technically cheating.

Unless you remove ALL oxidizer from the craft

 

And he still got lower than an all-jet entry. If that isn't a failure idk what is

[Lego_Prodigy]

ikr. thats worst that my SSTO fail that i just had:

 

Album https://imgur.com/a/Sdwvi will appear when post is submitted

[hoioh]

23 minutes ago, Lego_Prodigy said:

doesn't a rapier have a rocket mode? thats technically cheating.

Unless you remove ALL oxidizer from the craft

 

Obviously and very visibly (seen the album?), there wasn't any oxidizer in the tanks otherwise I would've made it to the mun and back easy 

20 minutes ago, RedPandaz said:

And he still got lower than an all-jet entry. If that isn't a failure idk what is

Lower, not so much, but the cost of the rapier doesn't make up for it's additional altitude achievement so the jet scores better with these rules 

Edited March 30, 2018 by hoioh

[Marschig]

-0.87

 

[hoioh]

7 hours ago, Marschig said:

-0.87

Ya missed! 

 

[Andetch]

23 minutes ago, hoioh said:

Ya missed! 

 

Yeah, a definite missed the runway there! lmao

 

[Lisias]

I think I've scored a good one...

8 * 8461 / 133112 = 0,50850412 [EDIT: No landing bônus, I blow up a engine on landing!)
 

Pictures, evidences and video in:
https://kerbalx.com/Lisias/Karman-Crossing-Challenge-Mk0

Edited April 5, 2018 by Lisias
decluttering the post, as I made a better entry

[Lisias]

Holy Molly! I'm stupid! I can save TWO parts on the vessel! #facePalm

But I got about 800 meters lower this time.

6 * 7621 / 132299 = 0.3456262 -1 = -0,6543738

Pictures, evidences and video in:
https://kerbalx.com/Lisias/Karman-Crossing-Challenge-Mk1

or 

And I managed to save the engine this time! :-)

[Bitrefresh]

5 * 4,166 / 160,577 - 1 = -0.87 (-0.8702)

Edited April 1, 2018 by Bitrefresh
Incorrect Numbers! My score was -.87

[Andetch]

@Lisias and @Bitrefresh two great entries!

Thanks everyone for taking part. I was thinking maybe a weight multiplier to space might be worth it to make things more interesting. Any thoughts?