High speed stock Aircraft challenge.

[Klapaucius]

5 hours ago, TheTripleAce3 said:

@Klapaucius 1700m/s is impressive I will admit. Especially for a design as wide as that.

I was using the Gee Bee principle.: all engine and little else. Like the original Gee Bee, it crashed. I have not succeeded in landing this thing yet.

[TheTripleAce3]

9 minutes ago, Klapaucius said:

I was using the Gee Bee principle.: all engine and little else. Like the original Gee Bee, it crashed. I have not succeeded in landing this thing yet.

Use Medium Land Gear. Ground clearance = great.

[Klapaucius]

41 minutes ago, TheTripleAce3 said:

Use Medium Land Gear. Ground clearance = great.

Ground clearance is the least of the problems....

[TheTripleAce3]

25 minutes ago, Klapaucius said:

Ground clearance is the least of the problems....

If you mean ground stability, then use more gear in the back. And Medium gear are generally just better than small.

[GDJ]

Okay, just to clarify @TheTripleAce3, :

-No mods, Stock parts only
-No plug-ins that alter physics
-No autopilot plug-ins (Pilot Assistant for example).


Did I misinterpret anything?

[TheTripleAce3]

2 minutes ago, GDJ said:

Okay, just to clarify @TheTripleAce3, :

-No mods, Stock parts only
-No plug-ins that alter physics
-No autopilot plug-ins (Pilot Assistant for example).


Did I misinterpret anything?

If you want to, you can use FAR.

But yes, stock parts only.

Edited April 29, 2018 by TheTripleAce3

[GDJ]

Just now, TheTripleAce3 said:

If you want to, you can use FAR.

Never used FAR, so it's old school stick and rudder then.

Not a problem.

[TheTripleAce3]

1 minute ago, GDJ said:

Never used FAR, so it's old school stick and rudder then.

Not a problem.

Good luck.

[GDJ]

1 hour ago, TheTripleAce3 said:

Good luck.

Luck is not a factor.

(quote from a movie).

[doggonemess]

10 hours ago, GDJ said:

Luck is not a factor.

(quote from a movie).

In my experience, there's no such thing as 'luck'.

[GDJ]

8 hours ago, doggonemess said:

In my experience, there's no such thing as 'luck'.

You're right.
Do, or do not. There is no try.

On that note, I hope this qualifies:

On my honour, No plugins, no cheats, no tweak scale, no nefarious use of anything. All stick and rudder as the rules state.
All stock parts. RAPIER motor on Jet mode only (no oxidizer on board).

1743 m/s
Peak altitude: 23001 metres ASL

EDIT: Accidentally skipped over rule 0: 2000 m/s minimum speed. This plane won't do it.
In previous challenges like this RAPIERS snuff themselves out at roughly 1755 m/s. 

I'll tweak it.

Edited April 29, 2018 by GDJ

[TheTripleAce3]

16 minutes ago, GDJ said:

You're right.
Do, or do not. There is no try.

On that note, I hope this qualifies:

On my honour, No plugins, no cheats, no tweak scale, no nefarious use of anything. All stick and rudder as the rules state.
All stock parts. RAPIER motor on Jet mode only (no oxidizer on board).

1743 m/s
Peak altitude: 23001 metres ASL

EDIT: Accidentally skipped over rule 0: 2000 m/s minimum speed. This plane won't do it.
In previous challenges like this RAPIERS snuff themselves out at roughly 1755 m/s. 

I'll tweak it.

I used some RAPIER/Whiplash combo, Whiplashes pushed me really fast up to speed and then the RAPIERs slowly accelerated me further

[GDJ]

31 minutes ago, TheTripleAce3 said:

I used some RAPIER/Whiplash combo, Whiplashes pushed me really fast up to speed and then the RAPIERs slowly accelerated me further

I'll try swapping out the nacelles for LF/O2 tanks and give that a shot. It doesn't need much to qualify.

Edited April 29, 2018 by GDJ

[TheTripleAce3]

5 minutes ago, GDJ said:

I'll try swapping out the nacelles for LF/O2 tanks and give that a shot. It doesn't need much to qualify.

Try precoolers. One of the best parts in the game

[GDJ]

35 minutes ago, TheTripleAce3 said:

Try precoolers. One of the best parts in the game

I tried that. Didn't help, but it did keep the engine cool.

[TheTripleAce3]

1 minute ago, GDJ said:

I tried that. Didn't help, but it did keep the engine cool.

Those things keep in a lot of air at somewhat high speeds

you can yse them to keep whiplashes up at 26km if you're lucky

[GDJ]

Well, tried swapping out the Nacelles for standard Lf/O2 tanks, and it went past 2000 m/s like no tomorrow.
Unfortunately it went orbital with a apogee of 400 km.

[TheTripleAce3]

You could probably keep it up as a really high Hybrid.

[Raptor kerman]

ay, i'll give this a shot, pretty sure 3 km/s is achievable below 30km. Gonna be hard though. Wings will have to create a LOT of downforce instead of lift  . 

[TheTripleAce3]

1 hour ago, Raptor kerman said:

ay, i'll give this a shot, pretty sure 3 km/s is achievable below 30km. Gonna be hard though. Wings will have to create a LOT of downforce instead of lift  . 

But if you apply an angle of incidence then the heat may destroy the wings O_o

[Raptor kerman]

8 hours ago, TheTripleAce3 said:

But if you apply an angle of incidence then the heat may destroy the wings O_o

Not necessarily, at those speeds, the aim of wings is to stop the aircraft carreering off above 30 000 meters because above that, wings have almost no effect. 

[Raptor kerman]

Ok, so I've come up with a design that should work, still a LOT of optimisation to do and I might be going off on the wrong track... 

Mk1 parts only, rapier booster to half DV requirements on the stage doing the speeding, nuclear speedster stage or aerospike... you don't need that much power, lifting surfaces are control surfaces, tests will show whether i need a downforce 'floor' like in F1. Bruh. This could be huge, 3km/s below 30km... SHOULD be possible.

[TheTripleAce3]

I should've made a rule about no staging but now I'm intrigued

[Raptor kerman]

15 hours ago, TheTripleAce3 said:

I should've made a rule about no staging but now I'm intrigued

Yeah, a rapier stage halves the DV requirements with minimal mass. If you get it right you can get another 300 m/s out of them. Making the speedster much more efficient.

[TheTripleAce3]

Yours might be the only time I allow something like that, prolly on a limbo category