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On 11/7/2022 at 6:47 PM, NESD said:

it's really sad, I'm always enjoyed by your mods

 

@JadeOfMaar  it was just a small mod idea

I don't like use someone's property in my projects, especially if I can make my own.

 

Why don't you ask Beale about it? Tantares has Vostok parts and he's still into modding sort of.

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Hello,

 

Just a short question: do the dockingports, that come with the SpikeX dock to the stock-dockingports?

Or are these dockingports on the rear end not included?

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@Rakete SpikeX don't have it's own docking ports, but it include shrouds (dark ring on rear side)

that give better view to stock docking ports and add upper attach node for shielded variant

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unfortunately it not 100% compatible with Nertea's version

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Dock in picture possibly from Habtec pack, but if you want only ports

I have my own APAS - IDA - IDSS  style docking ports

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Here, in first page, or search KDSS in CKAN

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Habtech is by benjee10, right? Ah... Because I have Planetside (also made by him) i also have some of those ports, too. I also have the Nertea-Mods (except Restock). I think, it will work okay. In fact I am mostly interested in the SpikeX-vessel itself. Dockingports are available more than enough to me. I just wanted to know, if the mod would open up another dockingport, that exclusively docks to itself (like the planetside-mod-ports). I guess the shown SpikeX is more likely suited for an upper stage or to be combined with other parts to take it to a high altitude, as i guess those great looking engines don't bring enough power & isp for complete ssto-ing?

The small landing gear in the picture is included? Or is this from a different mod?

I like those adapter rings. Do they have an integrated decoupler?

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This ring IS a decoupler, that give you ability to use rear shielded dock on upper stage of rocket

Shroud have same feature but also give better streamlined view for simple stock docking port

Interstage tubes on first picture is a decoupler shroud with rear stage cap of both rings

 

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SpikeX is a cockpit, based on some designs of future supersonic aircrafts

and it created for SSTOs and high speed aircrafts but with other parts you can make

nice tiny space shuttle for 6 pilots/

Engines  40 kn for LFO  10kn for MP  ISP for mid to upper stages

Landing gear is from Kerbal foundries, big wheel pack

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@NESD Tried out your SpikeX. I have done a lot of bug reporting in the past for many a mod here. But this one is the first in a long time, where everything simply works and I found no reportingworthy issues. The parts are so great! Thanks for letting us have these parts.

 

just three very minor things:

1. For me I wrote a small b9 partswitch patch to make the big wings not only able to carry LF. Carrying a LFO-Mix makes sense, since there are no LF-only-engines for the SpikeX. So if you want to use the whole space in the wings for your wyvern-engines a partswitch patch to make it interchangeable with LFO oder Monoprop might be nice.

 

2. A nice radial attachable tiny jet engine (just strong enough to make it better possible to land this SpikeX-Vessel) would be a perfect addendum. Maybe in the visual style of the Wyvern. The smallest jet engine in my portfolio (the stock juno) is way to big for the SpikeX. With such an engine it would even make more sense, that you can choose to fill e.g. the wings only with LF. Just a tiny proposal... You may ignore it.

 

3. The waterfall plumes of the LFO and the Monoprop do not 100,0000% perfectly fit in the enginebells in vacuum. A very very minor plume adjustment could make it even more perfect. But its very very minor

 

 

Special thanks for the decoupler for shielded dockingports. This was really a missing piece for me. Thank you so much!

On 10/29/2022 at 10:15 AM, Zarbon44 said:

The new mod is absolutely lovely. Your style is great, it fits restock-alike yet its very unique, keep up the great work!
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A short question. What is this triangular part, that is radial attached right above the rear docking port and slightly clipped into the back fin? Looks nice. (Not the tiny aerobrake. The other thing above the aerobrake)

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well . . .

1 - SpikeX is a mod that primary created for SSTOs and aircrafts, so it more focused on More-LF and All-LF fuel systems

Also its a bit of realism (in game about little green people :D) , usually oxidizer required pressurized or insulated tanks

monopropellant always stored in high pressure tanks, so wings not a good place for it.

2 - Original parts of this mod is only cockpit and nose, all other things is a parts from my other "time wasting" projects

that surprisingly perfectly fit here. Engines, antenna and solar panel from Streamline rework, wings also have their own history

so no new parts planned at this moment, maybe inline single pilot cabin, but now I'm waiting more info about new modelling rules for KSP2.

3 - waterfall patch used original waterfall effects, that created for engines with flat ends, wyverns have angular cut of nozzles (Streamline legacy),

so it's just impossible to make it 100% fit together without custom models and animation for effects.

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Triangular thing is a parts of modular RCS nacelle from APUS (also my mod, unfortunately stuck in beta stage by some reasons),

now they under total rework and planned to release as standalone mod

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Thx for idea about small jet engine for Modular RCS nacelle

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11 hours ago, NESD said:

1 - SpikeX is a mod that primary created for SSTOs and aircrafts, so it more focused on More-LF and All-LF fuel systems

Also its a bit of realism (in game about little green people :D) , usually oxidizer required pressurized or insulated tanks

monopropellant always stored in high pressure tanks, so wings not a good place for it.

Understood, The reason for my thoughts on that came from the half empty fuelbar next to the staginglist with a spikeX-Upperstage. Yes, I can fill LF in it, but not use ist in the upper stage. I can't balance it valuewise with the rear- or nose tanks, so there is always "dead mass" due to too much Ox or too much LF for the wyverns. And since there is no tiny jetengine I can't use the wing-LF for powered landings in the terminal flight phase. Not a big bummer, but it made me wonder. That's why I thought about it. But it is not a complaint. I like the parts as they are. And... if it should annoy me too much, writing a B9PS-patch for the wing content ain't rocket science. Thanks for the great work.

 

11 hours ago, NESD said:

so it's just impossible to make it 100% fit together without custom models and animation for effects.

Understood, it was just a minor visual thing. I can perfectly live with this. :D

 

11 hours ago, NESD said:

Thx for idea about small jet engine for Modular RCS nacelle

Would be a great addition to enable powered landings for the SpikeX. I mean, i have the trajectories mod, so I made it home to the runway (SpikeX vessel was a winged upper stage) just gliding, but many users may not have the mod. Rocket-engines aren't the go-to-solution for powered landings.

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12 hours ago, Rakete said:

i have the trajectories mod, so I made it home to the runway

Without Trajectories and with Mandatory RCS   ( suitable for almost all shuttles and SSTOs except those who fly like stone or have too big wings )

1 - Always start reentry from 80 - 80 orbit ( yep, its fuel hungry method, because you cant dive from Mun, even return from station required full double descent )

2 - Start burn at middle of big crater and keep it until Periapsis touch groung, it take around 80 dV ( for equatorial orbit, for other angles just start at 1/4 of orbit before home )

3 - Keep SAS in prograde until touch atmosphere, then set it to Hold, at 50km you will get proper pitch angle for soaring

4 - Glide in atmosphere at 25 - 30 degrees ( properly made and balanced spaceplane can do it, just press [F] for respect  to temporary disable SAS and drop nose)

5 - Your first checkpoint is a beach line of KSC continent, you must pass it at 1900 - 1800 m/s and 30000 - 35000 m ( very roughly, depending on ship )

6 - Pitch up for more braking or down for longer flight, use airbrakes, they not overheat now

7 - If your ship fly MUCH faster or jumping in atmosphere to 45 km and back, roll your craft 90 degrees to side or even head down

8 - If you do everything right, after passing mountains your ship goes to normal flight and can glide to runway. Airbrakes and remaining fuel (if you have it) can help

But . . . SpikeX have very small air drag and definitely overshot KSC so you need start reentry a bit earlier ( or read number 7 )

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