DJA 1946 BDAc AI Dogfight Tournament

[Alioth81]

I have problems with the procedural parts mods where attachment nodes suddenly go missing after a reload (meaning a stable plane is suddenly unstable).

How do you deal with that it seems to be a known issue so maybe there are workarounds?

I think the procedural nose cone is less susceptible to that but it also happens, but just not always.

It would be sad to submit a plane just to see it disintegrate at the first high G turn.

 

[Pds314]

On 6/20/2019 at 1:44 PM, Alioth81 said:

I have problems with the procedural parts mods where attachment nodes suddenly go missing after a reload (meaning a stable plane is suddenly unstable).

How do you deal with that it seems to be a known issue so maybe there are workarounds?

I think the procedural nose cone is less susceptible to that but it also happens, but just not always.

It would be sad to submit a plane just to see it disintegrate at the first high G turn.

 

Yes I have this problem as well. Insofar as I can tell, it comes from undoing anything to do with a nosecone, or possibly even regular parts. The only solution I found is is to delete the parts and rebuild that section of a craft.

Edited June 22, 2019 by Pds314

[Guest]

@aleksey444 Thank you for the invitation, but I'm afraid I have exams the following week from today (because the Canadian education system is the best when it comes to freedom ) If the competition is still open, maybe I'll try to enter though.

[SuicidalInsanity]

As I haven't received any entries yet, a reminder that submissions are due this Friday -  I'd like to begin recording the first few rounds before the 4th. However, because the 4th of July will be getting in the way, I doubt I'll get through all of round 1 before then, so if one or two of you need additional time, I'm willing to accept late entries up till the 9th and sneak you into the tourney lineup.

[Hinden]

Hi Everyone,

As I am new here and can't use PM. I would like to submit my entry here:

H-7 is a single engine test aircraft I experimented with to find out how FAR and the sample crafts work, spent too much time tweaking it and ran out of time, to develop a 2 engine craft.
So I would like to enter this version.


This (H-11)is the two engine craft, I could not finish:


Feel free to download and play arround with them. Will be looking forward to seening more inspiring builds. I had fun building these aircraft, for this competition, thanks.

[Pds314]

Ok. All my attempted fighter designs plus the dummy, minus absurd supersonic-optimized test planes, needles, and missiles that could never land at under 150 m/s, let alone win a fight before running out of fuel. I am submitting one of them.

Edited June 27, 2019 by Pds314

[Noir]

I'll be submitting an entry as well. Didn't put in as much effort as I could have, in part due to performance issues, but it'll fall out of the sky just as graciously regardless. It's very loosely inspired by the Attacker jet fighter.

[Me1_base]

BTW really not considering smoketrails?s?

Edited June 27, 2019 by Me1_base

[Mr. Peabody]

6 hours ago, Me1_base said:

BTW really not considering smoketrails?s?

I don't like that at all.

[Pds314]

18 minutes ago, The Dunatian said:

I don't like that at all.

It's pretty, and it's useful, but it's definitely not thematic lol.

[Pds314]

I think... with breaking ground, I can finally do "stock" props that the AI will understand how to fly.... Anyone interested in seeing stock+BG props fight in the stock souposphere? Or in the FAR atmosphere? Possibly even Autogyros or helicopters could fight although I doubt the AI could fly an autogyro well or a helicopter at all.

Or possibly even Ornithopters dueling in mid air, powered by flapping like majestic eagles (read: randomly flailing their wings in a desparate attempt accelerate), although I have yet to build a functional one of those.

Edited June 28, 2019 by Pds314

[Pds314]

The first ever clip of an AI "stock" prop plane shooting down another AI "stock" prop plane?
(Aero is stock).

That snipe tho.
 

 

Edited June 28, 2019 by Pds314

[Pds314]

CameraTools + Stock props = strange hum and wooshing noises when they fly by.
 

 

[SuicidalInsanity]

Me1_base: No on the smoke trails. I can see the potential for them in a BDA air combat setting (I was thinking something like a single team colored trail per plane) but even that seems a bit too Ace Combat mission debrief for this.

Pds314: Triebflugel when?

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Last day to get something in. I'll be collecting entries early Sat morning, so there's still 20~ish hours left. As mentioned before, because of the proximity to the 4th, I'm willing to accept one or two late entries. (if there is someone who this applies, let me know that you'll be submitting something so I can reserve a slot in the roster.)

[tetryds]

Oh my god it's due today????

Let me see what I've got here...

[Mr. Peabody]

34 minutes ago, tetryds said:

Oh my god it's due today????

Let me see what I've got here...

All great men spontaneously improvise...

[tetryds]

43 minutes ago, The Dunatian said:

All great men spontaneously improvise...

Damn, making these aircraft take a lot more effort than I remember.

Not sure if I can get something done for today.

[SuicidalInsanity]

Ok, it's Saturday, and I've only collected 7 entries. I stated earlier I was willing to accept a few late entries (tetryds, if you can get something done in the next few days I'll accept it, and @dundun92 and @OmegaForce looked like they had entries but haven't submitted anything yet), and while I wanted to get in a few battles before the 4th (I'll be out of town for a few days), I'm wondering if it would be better to simply extend the deadline to the 7/9 cutoff point I said for late entries (or allow 2 entries per person). Battles will happen regardless of the ultimate number of planes I get, I just would like to have enough of them that the tourney isn't over in a week.

[Me1_base]

14 hours ago, SuicidalInsanity said:

or allow 2 entries per person

2 entries per person

I would like to test survivability vs maneuverability.

My first entry emphasize survivability over maneuverability. I have participated in BADT like modern dogfight tournament which required planes to dodge missiles. I have learnt to design maneuverable planes for that tournament. But after two years, BDA have changed a lot and I really cannot figure out the strategy of tweaking AI to be the utmost dogfighter. Therefore I choose to emphasize survivability.

http://www.bilibili.com/video/av5041224?p=6&share_medium=android&share_source=copy_link&bbid=OQloCjwLbV9tC25eIl4iinfoc&ts=1561871788083

BDA dogfight back in 2016

Edited June 30, 2019 by Me1_base

[SuicidalInsanity]

Deadline for submissions has been extended to the 9th. Additionally, contestants may submit up to 2 aircraft. People who have already submitted a craft may take advantage of the additional time and (further) tweak their design if so desired.

[Pds314]

2 aircraft? Hmmmmmm.... to submit a highly competitiveness-oriented aircraft for my second one or something highly experimental and strange that can go 1000 mph or eat 40mm shells for breakfast or is totally asymmetrical something...

 

Or build a replica.

Edited June 30, 2019 by Pds314

[Me1_base]

Enhanced maneuverability.

[Me1_base]

 practice

[Pds314]

My second entry, the L-24 Broadhead. It's a bit of a gamble since it cannot, and will never, out-turn you at equal speed unless you are flying a lawn dart, but it is a single-engine fighter with a stock cockpit and a 9m wingspan capable of going 338 m/s at sealevel, and above 6000 m altitude or in even a modest dive it can go above Mach 1.000. It turns out the only way to give it low drag is to minimize the wings, and the only way to minimize the wings while allowing it to retain energy in a turn is to make them long and swept.

It does suffer from aeroelastic flutter at supersonic speeds though.

It is armed with 4x Hispano 20mm.

Edited July 4, 2019 by Pds314

[Yeet_TheDinosaur]

Just asking, but are only guns from BD Armory allowed? Or guided missiles are also allowed('cause some from 1950 used guided missiles)?

Thanks in advance for replies.

Edited July 4, 2019 by Yeet_TheDinosaur