Logspam errors for 'ExperienceTrait' ... SurveySkill / ConstructionSkill ... Help diagnose please?!

[scottadges]

Hi all, I've been seeing a significant amount of spam to my logs based on errors starting with an "ExperienceSystem" log entry and then a huge mess (>21K entries when loading into Space Center) for "ExperienceTrait: Cannot add effect..." Currently running KSP 1.7.3. Thanks for anyone who can help?? 

Overall, my game has been fine until only recently I'm getting these errors:

[LOG 14:08:04.626] [ExperienceSystem]: Found 0 trait types
[LOG 14:08:04.631] [ExperienceSystem]: Found 31 effect types
[ERR 14:08:04.647] ExperienceTrait: Cannot add effect 'ExSurveySkill' as it does not exist.
[ERR 14:08:04.652] ExperienceTrait: Cannot add effect 'ExSurveySkill' as it does not exist.
[ERR 14:08:04.652] ExperienceTrait: Cannot add effect 'SurveySkill' as it does not exist.
[ERR 14:08:04.652] ExperienceTrait: Cannot add effect 'ExConstructionSkill' as it does not exist.
[ERR 14:08:04.653] ExperienceTrait: Cannot add effect 'ConstructionSkill' as it does not exist.
[ERR 14:08:04.654] ExperienceTrait: Cannot add effect 'ConstructionSkill' as it does not exist.
[ERR 14:08:04.654] ExperienceTrait: Cannot add effect 'ExConstructionSkill' as it does not exist.
[ERR 14:08:04.655] ExperienceTrait: Cannot add effect 'SurveySkill' as it does not exist.
[ERR 14:08:04.656] ExperienceTrait: Cannot add effect 'ExSurveySkill' as it does not exist.
[ERR 14:08:04.656] ExperienceTrait: Cannot add effect 'ExSurveySkill' as it does not exist.
[ERR 14:08:04.656] ExperienceTrait: Cannot add effect 'ExSurveySkill' as it does not exist.
[ERR 14:08:04.657] ExperienceTrait: Cannot add effect 'SurveySkill' as it does not exist.
[ERR 14:08:04.657] ExperienceTrait: Cannot add effect 'ExConstructionSkill' as it does not exist.
[...much more...]

In trying to nail this down myself, there seems to be references to Extraplanetary Launchpads (but this back in 2016):

On 2/5/2016 at 11:07 AM, MatterBeam said:

Opened my KSP.txt file and found this error a couple hundred times:

[ERR 14:15:36.892] ExperienceTrait: Cannot add effect 'ExWorkshopSkill' as it does not exist.

[ERR 14:15:36.896] ExperienceTrait: Cannot add effect 'ExWorkshopSkill' as it does not exist.

[ERR 14:15:36.897] ExperienceTrait: Cannot add effect 'ExWorkshopSkill' as it does not exist.

 

Tagging @taniwha and @Ericwi

But also in the older SimpleConstruction thread related to USI Tools:

On 4/22/2017 at 2:03 AM, Blackline said:

Do you also use the "untouched" EPL together with SC? Would it work? I am asking because i think i just figured out, that there is a bug somewhere relating to ConstructionSkill stuff. And the only place i found that was at @taniwha's sourcefiles.

https://github.com/taniwha/Extraplanetary-Launchpads/blob/a38adaf4131ccc97d192403f5303e937b967e821/Source/Workshop/ConstructionSkill.cs

And then a response:

On 4/23/2017 at 5:51 AM, Blackline said:

I think i figured it out (again): @RoverDude's USI_Tools is assigning stuff in his TraitsAndEffects.cfg. But all that usually doesn't exist if MKS is not installed (i guess). So i think it had nothing to do with you @taniwha

https://github.com/UmbraSpaceIndustries/MKS/blob/22b3157794c77e9baf5d10f16140a91f75a4db83/FOR_RELEASE/GameData/000_USITools/TraitsAndEffects.cfg#L24

Note that I'm not using the full version of EL, but a version base around the SimpleConstruction mod (https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/173609-ksp-144-simpleconstruction-new-thread-stock-rocket-building-version-401-2018-06-24/ ... yes, it still works in 1.7.3 using the latest updated EL).

On GitHub there's also some discussion around this issue (within a big thread of another issue) from several years ago: https://github.com/taniwha/Extraplanetary-Launchpads/issues/117

JimmyDurandWesolowski commented on Jul 25, 2016
@SarahLJP You got the same issue:

ExperienceTrait: Cannot add effect 'ExSurveySkill' as it does not exist.
ExperienceTrait: Cannot add effect 'ExConstructionSkill' as it does not exist.
Can you also check for the DLL?

But this was one of the few places online that I can even see this reported. Is anyone familiar with this spam?

Finally, here's my current mod list (via CKAN) which may provide some context.

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Edited October 30, 2019 by scottadges

[taniwha]

@scottadges: The relevant config files are old: EL moved to use ELConstructionSkill instead of Ex... a year or two ago.

[scottadges]

1 minute ago, taniwha said:

EL moved to use ELConstructionSkill

Thanks so much for your response. I do remember about that and believed this was properly updated (at least, with using SimpleConstruction).

I'm wondering, how might I track down where those config values are being introduced and therefore showing up in the log when they're not present?

[scottadges]

Just to wrap this one up, I think the cause of this was in fact leftover "Ex" effect naming rather than using "EL" in the 'ExperienceTraits.cfg' file of the SimpleConstruction configs. Once that was fixed in what was provided by SC, the logspam seems to have gone away. Woohoo!

Also posted this to the SC thread for future generations of SC enthusiasts:

 

 

Edited October 31, 2019 by scottadges