Odd problem - stuck...but not stuck...

CAPFlyer · December 6, 2019

Okay, this is a weird one for me. I've been running basically the same set of addons for the last 3 or 4 months. All I've done is update the addons as needed through CKAN. I ran a couple of updates without running KSP after to verify the changes were good. Yesterday, I ran KSP and found that after going to the R&D screen I couldn't do anything else. I ALT-F4'd out of the program and re-launched only to discover that the R&D screen was the only one I could go to and no other buildings would open. Even from the KSC overview going to the Pause/Options screen and clicking Exit to Main Menu did nothing. Trying to exit to main menu on the R&D screen doesn't work either.

Even worse - there's no error logs. Period.

Edit - I was able to get into the Astronaut Complex and then pulling up the debug, I'm getting a NullReferenceException when I click the "Leave Facility" button. Looking at the full debug log in game, it's not showing where this problem is being created, but at least that's another clue?

Edit 2 - Here's the Console Dump:

[ERR 10:37:25.773] Input is null for field 'name' in config node 'SCENARIO'
at System.Environment.get_StackTrace () [0x00000] in <ad04dee02e7e4a85a1299c7ee81c79f6>:0
at ConfigNode.AddValue (System.String name, System.String value) [0x00000] in <9d71e4043e394d78a6cf9193ad011698>:0
at ScenarioModule.Save (ConfigNode node) [0x00000] in <9d71e4043e394d78a6cf9193ad011698>:0
at ProtoScenarioModule..ctor (ScenarioModule module) [0x00000] in <9d71e4043e394d78a6cf9193ad011698>:0
at ScenarioRunner.UpdateModules () [0x00000] in <9d71e4043e394d78a6cf9193ad011698>:0
at ScenarioRunner.GetUpdatedProtoModules () [0x00000] in <9d71e4043e394d78a6cf9193ad011698>:0
at Game.Updated (GameScenes startSceneOverride) [0x00000] in <9d71e4043e394d78a6cf9193ad011698>:0
at GamePersistence.SaveGame (System.String saveFileName, System.String saveFolder, SaveMode saveMode, GameScenes startScene) [0x00000] in <9d71e4043e394d78a6cf9193ad011698>:0
at GamePersistence.SaveGame (System.String saveFileName, System.String saveFolder, SaveMode saveMode) [0x00000] in <9d71e4043e394d78a6cf9193ad011698>:0
at SpaceCenterMain+<Start>d__4.MoveNext () [0x00000] in <9d71e4043e394d78a6cf9193ad011698>:0
at UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine.InvokeMoveNext (System.Collections.IEnumerator enumerator, System.IntPtr returnValueAddress) [0x00000] in <5aeafee3fea24f37abd1315553f2cfa6>:0

[EXC 10:37:25.782] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
   ScenarioModule.Save (ConfigNode node) (at <9d71e4043e394d78a6cf9193ad011698>:0)
   ProtoScenarioModule..ctor (ScenarioModule module) (at <9d71e4043e394d78a6cf9193ad011698>:0)
   ScenarioRunner.UpdateModules () (at <9d71e4043e394d78a6cf9193ad011698>:0)
   ScenarioRunner.GetUpdatedProtoModules () (at <9d71e4043e394d78a6cf9193ad011698>:0)
   Game.Updated (GameScenes startSceneOverride) (at <9d71e4043e394d78a6cf9193ad011698>:0)
   GamePersistence.SaveGame (System.String saveFileName, System.String saveFolder, SaveMode saveMode, GameScenes startScene) (at <9d71e4043e394d78a6cf9193ad011698>:0)
   GamePersistence.SaveGame (System.String saveFileName, System.String saveFolder, SaveMode saveMode) (at <9d71e4043e394d78a6cf9193ad011698>:0)
   SpaceCenterMain+<Start>d__4.MoveNext () (at <9d71e4043e394d78a6cf9193ad011698>:0)
   UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine.InvokeMoveNext (System.Collections.IEnumerator enumerator, System.IntPtr returnValueAddress) (at <5aeafee3fea24f37abd1315553f2cfa6>:0)
   UnityEngine.DebugLogHandler:LogException(Exception, Object)
   ModuleManager.UnityLogHandle.InterceptLogHandler:LogException(Exception, Object)
   UnityEngine.Debug:CallOverridenDebugHandler(Exception, Object)

Attached is the list of mods and version installed, and my KSP version info -

Edited December 6, 2019 by CAPFlyer

Atlas Gaming · December 7, 2019

EDIT: I looked at what mods we had in common. Wasted a few hours testing one mod by one. Traced it down to Better Time Warp Continued - which I didn't think had been updated recently??? But sure enough by deleting that mod the bug goes away in both a new game and my old saved game.

Ya exact same error I'm getting... I have not changed anything on my game (just not played in a week) and today I get this. Full game resinstall did nothing. Full mod reinstall did nothing to fix this. Only thing that seemed to work is to wipe the folder, and just install a stock game with no mods at all. Adding even 1 mod seemed to bring this back for me. Hope someone has a solution.

List of my Mods (although deleting 90% of them didn't seem to fix the problem)

   {
           "name": "MagiCore"
       },
       {
           "name": "FMRSContinued"
       },
       {
           "name": "KerbalEngineerRedux"
       },
       {
           "name": "KIS"
       },
       {
           "name": "DockingPortAlignmentIndicator"
       },
       {
           "name": "DatedQuickSaves"
       },
       {
           "name": "REPOSoftTech-Agencies"
       },
       {
           "name": "DMagicOrbitalScience"
       },
       {
           "name": "FilterExtensions"
       },
       {
           "name": "AmpYearPowerManager"
       },
       {
           "name": "Toolbar"
       },
       {
           "name": "MechJeb2"
       },
       {
           "name": "ReStockPlus"
       },
       {
           "name": "ReStock"
       },
       {
           "name": "CommunityDeltaVMaps"
       },
       {
           "name": "DeployableBatteries"
       },
       {
           "name": "EditorTime"
       },
       {
           "name": "CommunityCategoryKit"
       },
       {
           "name": "EasyVesselSwitch"
       },
       {
           "name": "DockingCamKURS"
       },
       {
           "name": "KerbalHacksDroptankWrapper"
       },
       {
           "name": "KXAPI"
       },
       {
           "name": "FuelEfficientPilots"
       },
       {
           "name": "ImprovedUpdatedChaseCam"
       },
       {
           "name": "StateFundingContinued"
       },
       {
           "name": "RealPlume-StockConfigs"
       },
       {
           "name": "CommNetAntennasInfo"
       },
       {
           "name": "RealPlume"
       },
       {
           "name": "BetterCrewAssignment"
       },
       {
           "name": "SpeedUnitAnnex"
       },
       {
           "name": "CommunityTechTree"
       },
       {
           "name": "ClickThroughBlocker"
       },
       {
           "name": "NearFutureElectrical-Core"
       },
       {
           "name": "JX2Antenna"
       },
       {
           "name": "MoarFEConfigs"
       },
       {
           "name": "ABCORS"
       },
       {
           "name": "SmartParts"
       },
       {
           "name": "MSP3000"
       },
       {
           "name": "KerbalAlarmClock"
       },
       {
           "name": "DecouplerShroud"
       },
       {
           "name": "Chatterer"
       },
       {
           "name": "NearFutureSpacecraft"
       },
       {
           "name": "NearFuturePropulsion"
       },
       {
           "name": "ToolbarController"
       },
       {
           "name": "NearFutureElectrical"
       },
       {
           "name": "NearFutureConstruction"
       },
       {
           "name": "NearFutureElectrical-DecayingRTGs"
       },
       {
           "name": "CryoEngines"
       },
       {
           "name": "StationPartsExpansionRedux"
       },
       {
           "name": "NearFutureSolar-Core"
       },
       {
           "name": "DistantObject-default"
       },
       {
           "name": "NearFutureSolar"
       },
       {
           "name": "NearFutureLaunchVehicles"
       },
       {
           "name": "NearFutureProps"
       },
       {
           "name": "DeployableEngines"
       },
       {
           "name": "AllYAll"
       },
       {
           "name": "DynamicBatteryStorage"
       },
       {
           "name": "IONRCS"
       },
       {
           "name": "KSP-AVC"
       },
       {
           "name": "CraftManager"
       },
       {
           "name": "Scatterer"
       },
       {
           "name": "Scatterer-sunflare"
       },
       {
           "name": "Scatterer-config"
       },
       {
           "name": "SCANsat"
       },
       {
           "name": "KAS"
       },
       {
           "name": "BetterBurnTime"
       },
       {
           "name": "Targetron"
       },
       {
           "name": "HangerExtenderExtended"
       },
       {
           "name": "CommunityResourcePack"
       },
       {
           "name": "CryoTanks-Core"
       },
       {
           "name": "CryoTanks"
       },
       {
           "name": "KerbalAtomics"
       },
       {
           "name": "StationKeeping"
       },
       {
           "name": "ConfigurableContainers-Core"
       },
       {
           "name": "B9PartSwitch"
       },
       {
           "name": "BetterTimeWarpCont"
       },
       {
           "name": "AllTweak"
       },
       {
           "name": "TweakScale"
       },
       {
           "name": "ScienceAlert"
       },
       {
           "name": "StageRecovery"
       },
       {
           "name": "CommunityPartsTitlesExtrasCategory"
       },
       {
           "name": "ScienceSituationInfo"
       },
       {
           "name": "SensiblePumpsCont"
       },
       {
           "name": "CommunityPartsTitles"
       },
       {
           "name": "KerboKatzSmallUtilities-KerbalScienceExchange"
       },
       {
           "name": "TrackingStationEvolved"
       },
       {
           "name": "Achievements"
       },
       {
           "name": "SmokeScreen"
       },
       {
           "name": "SpaceAge"
       },
       {
           "name": "DockingPortSoundFX"
       },
       {
           "name": "ResonantOrbitCalculator"
       },
       {
           "name": "DockRotate"
       },
       {
           "name": "ConstellationEssentials"
       },
       {
           "name": "FilterExtensionsDefaultConfig"
       },
       {
           "name": "StockalikeMiningExtension"
       },
       {
           "name": "WhereCanIGo"
       },
       {
           "name": "ScienceRelay"
       },
       {
           "name": "SpaceTuxLibrary"
       },
       {
           "name": "HideEmptyTechNodes"
       },
       {
           "name": "NavballDockAlignIndCE"
       },
       {
           "name": "ShipEffectsContinued"
       },
       {
           "name": "Konstruction"
       },
       {
           "name": "USI-Core"
       },
       {
           "name": "DistantObject"
       },
       {
           "name": "Landertron"
       },
       {
           "name": "SixSeatMk3cockpit"
       },
       {
           "name": "AT-Utils"
       },
       {
           "name": "USITools"
       },
       {
           "name": "ConfigurableContainers"
       },
       {
           "name": "GroundConstruction-Core"
       },
       {
           "name": "FirespitterCore"
       },
       {
           "name": "USI-LS"
       },
       {
           "name": "UKS"
       },
       {
           "name": "MarkIVSpaceplaneSystem"
       },
       {
           "name": "BonVoyage"
       },
       {
           "name": "CommunityTraitIcons"
       },
       {
           "name": "UniversalStorage2"
       },
       {
           "name": "MechJebForAll"
       },
       {
           "name": "PortraitStats"
       },
       {
           "name": "GravityTurnContinued"
       },
       {
           "name": "MakingLessHistory"
       },
       {
           "name": "ODFC-Refueled-ModifyPatches"
       },
       {
           "name": "SpaceXLegs"
       },
       {
           "name": "ODFC-Refueled"
       },
       {
           "name": "SurfaceAttachableControl"
       },
       {
           "name": "EarnYourStripes"
       },
       {
           "name": "DecoupleWithControl"
       },
       {
           "name": "FieldTrainingFacility"
       },
       {
           "name": "KerbalChangelog"
       },
       {
           "name": "FlightTracker"
       },
       {
           "name": "ScienceLabInfo"
       },
       {
           "name": "KSPLogiRGB-battlemoose"
       },
       {
           "name": "AerospacePassengerandUtilitySystem"
       },
       {
           "name": "Mk-X"
       },
       {
           "name": "MunarIndustriesFTX"
       },
       {
           "name": "Mk3Expansion"
       },
       {
           "name": "ModuleManager"
       },
       {
           "name": "LaunchNumbering"
       },
       {
           "name": "RecoveryController"
       },
       {
           "name": "EnvironmentalVisualEnhancements"
       },
       {
           "name": "SVE-MediumResolution"
       },
       {
           "name": "AutomatedScienceSampler"
       },
       {
           "name": "KerboKatzSmallUtilities-DailyFunds"
       },
       {
           "name": "RCSLandAid"
       },
       {
           "name": "KerboKatzSmallUtilities-RecoverAll"
       },
       {
           "name": "KerboKatzUtilities"
       },
       {
           "name": "CriticalTemperatureGauge"
       },
       {
           "name": "ChattererExtended"
       },
       {
           "name": "ManeuverNodeEvolved"
       },
       {
           "name": "FlexibleDocking"
       },
       {
           "name": "InlineBallutes"
       },
       {
           "name": "DeepFreeze"
       },
       {
           "name": "TarsierSpaceTechnologyWithGalaxies"
       },
       {
           "name": "BackgroundResources"
       },
       {
           "name": "ComfortableLanding"
       },
       {
           "name": "TundraExploration"
       },
       {
           "name": "AnimatedDecouplers"
       },
       {
           "name": "USI-EXP"
       },
       {
           "name": "USI-NuclearRockets"
       },
       {
           "name": "RetractableLiftingSurface"
       },
       {
           "name": "StockVisualEnhancements"
       },
       {
           "name": "HeatControl"
       },
       {
           "name": "InterstellarFuelSwitch-Core"
       },
       {
           "name": "TimeControl"
       },
       {
           "name": "KSPInterstellarExtended"
       },
       {
           "name": "EVAStruts"
       },
       {
           "name": "HullcamVDSContinued"
       },
       {
           "name": "KerbalPlanetaryBaseSystems"
       },
       {
           "name": "PartInfo"

Edited December 7, 2019 by Atlas Gaming

VoidSquid · December 7, 2019

2 hours ago, Atlas Gaming said:

Traced it down to Better Time Warp - which I didn't think had been updated recently???

Better Time Warp has been been adopted by @linuxgurugamer a while ago, it's now called Better Time Warp Continued, latest version is good for KSP 1.8.1, see here

As an alternative you could also use this mod, while not recompiled it works fine with 1.8.1, confirmed myself and the author confirmed it to me too

Edited December 7, 2019 by VoidSquid

Atlas Gaming · December 7, 2019

10 hours ago, VoidSquid said:

Better Time Warp has been been adopted by @linuxgurugamer a while ago, it's now called Better Time Warp Continued, latest version is good for KSP 1.8.1, see here

You misunderstood me... That is the one - linuxgurugamers - which is not working... previous update worked fine, but I guess the latest one a week ago is what ended up making the mod crash our games. Keep in mind this may only be the case 'in combination' with the other mods we use. But through long one by one testing getting rid of that mod is what allowed the game to go back to normal.

VoidSquid · December 7, 2019

You mentioned

13 hours ago, Atlas Gaming said:

Better Time Warp

which is a different mod than Better Time Warp Continued
(Yeah, me again, splitting hairs, lol)

I've seen you already did post in LGG's mod thread, good

For my part, I've never used that mod but I stick with the good ol' Warp Everywhere, fits my play style perfectly.

Edited December 7, 2019 by VoidSquid

Atlas Gaming · December 7, 2019

8 minutes ago, VoidSquid said:

(Yeah, me again, splitting hairs, lol)

Ya and if you look at my list of mods, you will see Better Time Warp Continued not Better Time Warp

I honestly didn't use that mod that often anyway, so can live without it with no problem. But the strange thing was I didn't remember that mod updating recently via ckan... the mods I did see update were what I first tried to test to see what was breaking the game. But in the end it turned out to be "Better Time Warp Continued" aka Better Time Warp

PS - I'm looking at Time Control.... seems to do all the warpy stuff and more.

Edited December 7, 2019 by Atlas Gaming

VoidSquid · December 7, 2019

17 minutes ago, Atlas Gaming said:

you will see Better Time Warp Continued not Better Time Warp

Hairsplitting again, (I'm good at that, hehe): but you said, "Better Time Warp", not "Better Time Warp Continued", I had just quoted you

Kidding aside, I'm happy you found the culprit of your issues plus notified the mod creator about the issue.

Time Control, hmm? Tbh, never heard about that mod. When I started KSP some years ago, I found Warp Everywhere and still stick with it as is does exactly what I want.

Again, I'm happy you could resolve the issue, let me know if I can help with anything else.

Atlas Gaming · December 7, 2019

Just now, VoidSquid said:

Again, I'm happy you could resolve the issue, let me know if I can help with anything else.

Well... Valentina has some split ends... she could use your help

VoidSquid · December 7, 2019

6 minutes ago, Atlas Gaming said:

Valentina

Awww... now you perfectly hit my soft spot - what can I do for her?

Atlas Gaming · December 7, 2019

Well she's got split ends... you're a hair splitter... seems like the perfect person for the job!

pmborg · December 7, 2019

Hello @CAPFlyer

I will suggest you to do this:

Open you saved file: ____.sfs (backup it first...)

And look for entries like these:

agent =

Just populate that with the agentName content from the line bellow and that problem should disappear, let me know if it was successful.

Sample:

agent =
agentName = KSPI-X

Fix:

agent = KSPI-X
agentName = KSPI-X

Edited December 7, 2019 by pmborg

CAPFlyer · December 7, 2019

3 hours ago, pmborg said:

Hello @CAPFlyer

I will suggest you to do this:

Open you saved file: ____.sfs (backup it first...)

And look for entries like these:

agent =

Just populate that with the agentName content from the line bellow and that problem should disappear, let me know if it was successful.

Sample:

            agent =
           agentName = KSPI-X

Fix:

            agent = KSPI-X
           agentName = KSPI-X

Opened the Persistent.sfs that was generated for the save game I started. There are no "agent = " or "agentName = " lines in the file.

CAPFlyer · December 7, 2019

18 hours ago, Atlas Gaming said:

EDIT: I looked at what mods we had in common. Wasted a few hours testing one mod by one. Traced it down to Better Time Warp Continued - which I didn't think had been updated recently??? But sure enough by deleting that mod the bug goes away in both a new game and my old saved game.

Ya exact same error I'm getting... I have not changed anything on my game (just not played in a week) and today I get this. Full game resinstall did nothing. Full mod reinstall did nothing to fix this. Only thing that seemed to work is to wipe the folder, and just install a stock game with no mods at all. Adding even 1 mod seemed to bring this back for me. Hope someone has a solution.

Oddly enough, I didn't actually have Better Time Warp Continued installed when I posted my list. However, I installed and un-installed BTWC and it fixed the problem, so it must not have properly un-installed when I removed it.

linuxgurugamer · December 7, 2019

On 12/6/2019 at 11:28 AM, CAPFlyer said:

Okay, this is a weird one for me. I've been running basically the same set of addons for the last 3 or 4 months. All I've done is update the addons as needed through CKAN. I ran a couple of updates without running KSP after to verify the changes were good. Yesterday, I ran KSP and found that after going to the R&D screen I couldn't do anything else. I ALT-F4'd out of the program and re-launched only to discover that the R&D screen was the only one I could go to and no other buildings would open. Even from the KSC overview going to the Pause/Options screen and clicking Exit to Main Menu did nothing. Trying to exit to main menu on the R&D screen doesn't work either.

Even worse - there's no error logs. Period.

Edit - I was able to get into the Astronaut Complex and then pulling up the debug, I'm getting a NullReferenceException when I click the "Leave Facility" button. Looking at the full debug log in game, it's not showing where this problem is being created, but at least that's another clue?

Edit 2 - Here's the Console Dump:

[ERR 10:37:25.773] Input is null for field 'name' in config node 'SCENARIO'
at System.Environment.get_StackTrace () [0x00000] in <ad04dee02e7e4a85a1299c7ee81c79f6>:0
at ConfigNode.AddValue (System.String name, System.String value) [0x00000] in <9d71e4043e394d78a6cf9193ad011698>:0
at ScenarioModule.Save (ConfigNode node) [0x00000] in <9d71e4043e394d78a6cf9193ad011698>:0
at ProtoScenarioModule..ctor (ScenarioModule module) [0x00000] in <9d71e4043e394d78a6cf9193ad011698>:0
at ScenarioRunner.UpdateModules () [0x00000] in <9d71e4043e394d78a6cf9193ad011698>:0
at ScenarioRunner.GetUpdatedProtoModules () [0x00000] in <9d71e4043e394d78a6cf9193ad011698>:0
at Game.Updated (GameScenes startSceneOverride) [0x00000] in <9d71e4043e394d78a6cf9193ad011698>:0
at GamePersistence.SaveGame (System.String saveFileName, System.String saveFolder, SaveMode saveMode, GameScenes startScene) [0x00000] in <9d71e4043e394d78a6cf9193ad011698>:0
at GamePersistence.SaveGame (System.String saveFileName, System.String saveFolder, SaveMode saveMode) [0x00000] in <9d71e4043e394d78a6cf9193ad011698>:0
at SpaceCenterMain+<Start>d__4.MoveNext () [0x00000] in <9d71e4043e394d78a6cf9193ad011698>:0
at UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine.InvokeMoveNext (System.Collections.IEnumerator enumerator, System.IntPtr returnValueAddress) [0x00000] in <5aeafee3fea24f37abd1315553f2cfa6>:0

[EXC 10:37:25.782] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
   ScenarioModule.Save (ConfigNode node) (at <9d71e4043e394d78a6cf9193ad011698>:0)
   ProtoScenarioModule..ctor (ScenarioModule module) (at <9d71e4043e394d78a6cf9193ad011698>:0)
   ScenarioRunner.UpdateModules () (at <9d71e4043e394d78a6cf9193ad011698>:0)
   ScenarioRunner.GetUpdatedProtoModules () (at <9d71e4043e394d78a6cf9193ad011698>:0)
   Game.Updated (GameScenes startSceneOverride) (at <9d71e4043e394d78a6cf9193ad011698>:0)
   GamePersistence.SaveGame (System.String saveFileName, System.String saveFolder, SaveMode saveMode, GameScenes startScene) (at <9d71e4043e394d78a6cf9193ad011698>:0)
   GamePersistence.SaveGame (System.String saveFileName, System.String saveFolder, SaveMode saveMode) (at <9d71e4043e394d78a6cf9193ad011698>:0)
   SpaceCenterMain+<Start>d__4.MoveNext () (at <9d71e4043e394d78a6cf9193ad011698>:0)
   UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine.InvokeMoveNext (System.Collections.IEnumerator enumerator, System.IntPtr returnValueAddress) (at <5aeafee3fea24f37abd1315553f2cfa6>:0)
   UnityEngine.DebugLogHandler:LogException(Exception, Object)
   ModuleManager.UnityLogHandle.InterceptLogHandler:LogException(Exception, Object)
   UnityEngine.Debug:CallOverridenDebugHandler(Exception, Object)

Attached is the list of mods and version installed, and my KSP version info -

Your problem was caused by Launch Numbering. I fixed that exact bug i. It last night

CAPFlyer · December 8, 2019

3 hours ago, linuxgurugamer said:

Your problem was caused by Launch Numbering. I fixed that exact bug i. It last night

Well, thanks for that. I really like Launch Numbering, especially since I tend to use similar designs of both satellites/ships and rockets once I find good combos, so it is really helpful to have and help me keep of what launch I'm on.

Unfortunately, I stupidly deleted the save game that I was really enjoying (bad click, not anyone's problem) so I get to start over, but oh well. That's part of the fun!

Thanks for the help everyone!

linuxgurugamer · December 8, 2019

1 minute ago, CAPFlyer said:

Well, thanks for that. I really like Launch Numbering, especially since I tend to use similar designs of both satellites/ships and rockets once I find good combos, so it is really helpful to have and help me keep of what launch I'm on.

Unfortunately, I stupidly deleted the save game that I was really enjoying (bad click, not anyone's problem) so I get to start over, but oh well. That's part of the fun!

Thanks for the help everyone!

Check your recycle bin

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