Tesla Thread

[mikegarrison]

15 minutes ago, JoeSchmuckatelli said:

the complete lack of vigor required by the media

Professional news media has its own standards of rigor. They aren't the same as the court system, but they also are not non-existent.

Not everyone lives up the the expected standards, but that applies to the courts as well.

[JoeSchmuckatelli]

Just now, mikegarrison said:

Professional news media has its own standards of rigor. They aren't the same as the court system, but they also are not non-existent.

Not everyone lives up the the expected standards, but that applies to the courts as well.

You are correct of course - but the standards in courts and administrative proceedings is much more rigorous than the broad discretion allowed to the press under the First Amendment. 

https://www.justia.com/trials-litigation/lawsuits-and-the-court-process/evidentiary-standards-and-burdens-of-proof/#:~:text=Evidentiary Standards in Criminal Cases&text=This standard requires the prosecution,or deduced from the evidence.

Example: Some people enjoy the use of 'alternative facts' transmitted through the media to sway the court of public opinion - when such unsubstantiated nonsense would be excluded from presentation to the jury in a court of law 

 

[mikegarrison]

The media is mostly self-regulated, of course. There are laws prohibiting maliciously lying, but the burdens of proof are quite high.

Like most things in life, trusting the media is a case of "buyer beware". The more reputable that the media source is, the more they have to lose if people start to distrust them. But the rise of political talk-radio and cable news channels has demonstrated that at least for some people, it is more profitable to tell them what they want to hear than to tell them the truth.

Edited February 21, 2022 by mikegarrison

[tater]

Been going almost an hour.

 

 

 

 

[CatastrophicFailure]

Heh, first footprints on Mars may be from a robot. 

[kerbiloid]

Theodor the Robot.

[tater]

Edited down version of the webcast (23 min)

 

[kerbiloid]

Spoiler

The OCP VaultTec Black Mesa Tesla R&D facility.

One year ago.

 

Edited October 1, 2022 by kerbiloid

[mikegarrison]

On 9/30/2022 at 8:13 PM, CatastrophicFailure said:

Heh, first footprints on Mars may be from a robot. 

I would argue that the first "footprints" on Mars have already been made by robots.

 

[tater]

First semis delivered.

[kerbiloid]

On 10/4/2022 at 10:57 AM, mikegarrison said:

I would argue that the first "footprints" on Mars have already been made by robots.

This is not footprints, only wheelprints, it doesn't count.

This one would count.

Spoiler