Dr. Kerbal Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 (edited) On 2/17/2021 at 5:55 AM, MDPKH said: The Place Anywhere 1 Linear RCS Port has a bug. It generates thrust in the wrong direction. See this test craft: RCS Test.craft Note that all the RCS nozzles are pointing outwards, perpendicular to the vessel's longitudinal axis. They are also all set to "fore by throttle". With throttle at 100% and RCS on, this craft will lift off from the pad quite rapidly, because all those RCS ports actually generate thrust downwards instead of outwards, and activate accordingly. (With default placement, their thrust direction is upwards; I've rotated them in the test craft to more easily demonstrate the problem.) Please fix this Squad! I am going to get KSP soon! Edited March 1, 2021 by Dr. Kerbal Eh. Lookz. I made a newz pagez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechBFP Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 17 minutes ago, Lisias said: KSP 1.11.x broke irremediably (at least, under forum rules) TweakScale and probably every add'on that changes the value of the craft after launch (as add'ons that implement damages). The IPartCostModifier interface is being ignored on recovering the craft, besides still being called on recovering the craft. This is not an accident. The KSP Dev Team choose to fetch information from the PREFAB instead of using the value of the already called part's IPartCostModifier interface. The full story is on TweakScale's thread and github. Correct me if I am wrong, but this only affects recovered part costs. That is a far cry from "broke irremediably". I get it, you are upset, but hyperbole doesn't do anyone any good on getting the issue fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisias Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 (edited) 33 minutes ago, MechBFP said: Correct me if I am wrong, but this only affects recovered part costs. That is a far cry from "broke irremediably". I get it, you are upset, but hyperbole doesn't do anyone any good on getting the issue fixed. This broke irremediably TweakScale on Career. You are now punished by using TweakScale by losing more Funds on recovery, instead of getting some back. There's no way to fix TweakScale to cope with this, so it's irremediable for TweakScale (and any other add'on that changes the value of the part after launch) but I think I found a way to "exploit" Career again in a way to overcome the punishment. TweakScale et all will still be broke on KSP 1.11.x, but perhaps I can counter-break them on KSP-Recall. What's not a fix, it will be a hell of a kludge - but it's what I think it can be done, as fixing the problem is beyound my reach if I want to keep TweakScale published on this Forum. Everything, absolutely everything that does the right thing and uses IPartCostModifier should be being affected by this problem. Edited March 1, 2021 by Lisias And I'm not upset. I'm frustrated - again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechBFP Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 25 minutes ago, Lisias said: This broke irremediably TweakScale on Career. You are now punished by using TweakScale by losing more Funds on recovery, instead of getting some back. There's no way to fix TweakScale to cope with this, so it's irremediable for TweakScale (and any other add'on that changes the value of the part after launch) but I think I found a way to "exploit" Career again in a way to overcome the punishment. TweakScale et all will still be broke on KSP 1.11.x, but perhaps I can counter-break them on KSP-Recall. What's not a fix, it will be a hell of a kludge - but it's what I think it can be done, as fixing the problem is beyound my reach if I want to keep TweakScale published on this Forum. Everything, absolutely everything that does the right thing and uses IPartCostModifier should be being affected by this problem. Well it is probably not going to get fixed without a post on the bug tracker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisias Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 36 minutes ago, MechBFP said: Well it is probably not going to get fixed without a post on the bug tracker. It's probably not going to be fixed on 1.11.x no matter what I do, so I will fix it myself the way I can. Waiting for bug fixes after a x.y.1 version was issued is, historically, an exercise in futility - and I have users suffering from this problem NOW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeanThruster Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 On 1/30/2021 at 2:21 AM, Richard Deckard said: PERFECT! Thanks @BeanThruster that worked perfectly. I'll probably just write a script to return all of their gear since I'm definitely NOT flying missions out to all the planet, moons, asteroids, comets, and bases I have scattered around the system just to return their gear. My save file is 15MB and I have way too many Kerbals to do by hand. I'm assuming you got the "INVENTORY" tag data from another simple save file? Thanks again! Glad it worked out. Actually, I've got the inventory data from the same savefile. I've just sent a couple of kerbals I had in austronaut complex out on the launchpad and back, ensuring that they had their equipment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bej Kerman Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 15 hours ago, Lisias said: It's probably not going to be fixed on 1.11.x no matter what I do, so I will fix it myself the way I can. Dev vs Fan dedication to the game in a nutshell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechBFP Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 8 hours ago, Bej Kerman said: Dev vs Fan dedication to the game in a nutshell Ya, clearly that is the only difference in that comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisias Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, MechBFP said: Ya, clearly that is the only difference in that comparison. I want to point out that "dedication" is not the same as "professionalism" or even "intentions". [Hired] Professionals have duties to fulfil, orders to carry on, schedules and goals to meet - they need to do what they are told to do, otherwise they risk losing the job. I don't. Edited March 3, 2021 by Lisias I'm a professional, damnit. I am just not hired here! =D =D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bej Kerman Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 9 hours ago, MechBFP said: 18 hours ago, Bej Kerman said: Dev vs Fan dedication to the game in a nutshell Ya, clearly that is the only difference in that comparison. Besides that, the fans have a lot less money to spend than Squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serenity Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 (edited) I am sorry if i sound too whiny but i tried so much to enjoy all this awesome free content we got but... there are so many issues and bugs scattered all around the game that without using several mods and workarounds and even then... I don't know...i do have countless hours so its not the only problem when i try to find some joy in the Kerbal universe. For now i will wait, i want to play the game and yeah i wouldn't mind for a second to buy a new DLC. Maybe that will help to get some more attention to squash all these annoying bugs that come up in almost every click... Anyways again sorry for the negativity but i wanted to express how i feel about the state of the game right now. Edited March 7, 2021 by Boyster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoidSquid Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 After trying out 1.11 for a couple of hours, I went back to my stable and for me perfectly fine working 1.10.1 installation (for the fuel transfer bug in 1.10.x, there are good established workarounds), maybe that's an option for you too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serenity Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, VoidSquid said: After trying out 1.11 for a couple of hours, I went back to my stable and for me perfectly fine working 1.10.1 installation (for the fuel transfer bug in 1.10.x, there are good established workarounds), maybe that's an option for you too? That version was super solid but i am having a really hard time rolling back after i got a taste of the new construction/repairing stuff... I never really delved into KIS/KAS so when we got this stock version of them i got so excited, i doubt i can ignore it. Ofcourse if you using KIS/KAS then its like cherry on the top and not a deal breaker, at least thats how i see it. Edited March 7, 2021 by Boyster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoidSquid Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 (edited) I see, a quite unfortunate situation for you then. For my own part, I never felt a big need to seriously engage in robotics as well as EVA construction, hence going back to 1.10.1 wasn't any loss at all for me. Guess you'll have to wait then until the bugs hopefully get fixed soon. Or try out KAS/KIS, it might not offer everything 1.11 should, but it works. Edited March 8, 2021 by VoidSquid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Kerbal Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 I found a bug in 1.11.1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RW-1 Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 1.11.2 introduces more issues than it supposedly resolves. EVA construction is totally hosed, building out or removing parts on a craft is hopeless, explosions or a kerbal spinning off into darkness doesnt bode well ... going to have to await the next iteration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConArt70 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Is there any word on when console will be getting Some Reassembly Required update? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeroeng14 Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 On 3/24/2021 at 11:59 AM, RW-1 said: 1.11.2 introduces more issues than it supposedly resolves. EVA construction is totally hosed, building out or removing parts on a craft is hopeless, explosions or a kerbal spinning off into darkness doesnt bode well ... going to have to await the next iteration. It depends. Are you running any mods? I just upgraded from v11.0 to v11.2 and EVA construction works fine as in adding or removing parts from the active vessel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thibault Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 About SAS with all directions enabled for all Kerbals and Probes: This problem appeared with 1.11 I tried to revert to 1.10 and the bug disappears Squad is apparently aware of this bug but still no fix ! The only workaround I read is to... buy the MH dlc which is sick and might be a reason why they still didn't fix it Did anybody find another workaround ?? Thanks, Thibault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxxim Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 (edited) I would like to see someone make a list / graph / chart or something that helps with knowing how many kerbals are needed to "assist" moving parts in space.. I had 3 engineers and couldnt move a RA-15 (0.3ton) relay antenna. (I have been using the some assembly required methods for smaller parts though.) I had the antenna mounted at the nose of the rocket since launch, but later tried to move it to the side of a station. Is anyone disappointed that clicking on the antenna in space gives no update as far as weight/mass info to help decide what to do? No info on how many Kerbals needed? In the VAB it will say "this part can be put into containers etc etc.." for smaller parts, which is the only indication for those other parts and there is no indication of total assistants needed for any of the parts. While I am critiquing, why not have a rope and carabiner so Kerbals can stay floating near a craft while doing EVA assembly.. but having a little more flexibility (but not randomly cause them to fly away with a slight bump) to move about instead of hanging onto a ladder? What really sucks is when I am carrying a 1x6 solar panel from one ship to attach it to another ship, and the "act" of placing the solar panel onto the 2nd ship "PUSHES" the entire ship to a speed of .5mps... right after realizing I cannot move a simple relay antenna. Edited April 22, 2021 by Maxxim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnedlikMCPE Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 Hey guys, is it possible to attach heavier parts on EVA? I want to attach a Tantares solar panel to my Mir core module, but it’s too heavy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConArt70 Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 Any news on when console is getting this update? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fragtzack Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 The add a missing part for satellite or rover career mode missions are cool. However, only 1 out the 5 missions tried in my current career worked correctly. The 4 that failed were due to the mission not recognizing the the part needed was installed. Taken with a grain of salt due to 50+ mods, but man this is frustrating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herbal space program Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 On 5/23/2021 at 9:26 AM, fragtzack said: The add a missing part for satellite or rover career mode missions are cool. However, only 1 out the 5 missions tried in my current career worked correctly. The 4 that failed were due to the mission not recognizing the the part needed was installed. Taken with a grain of salt due to 50+ mods, but man this is frustrating. I'm actually having the same problem now. The mission was to add needed parts to a rover on Ike so you could then drive it to a waypoint, and I did exactly that but the game is not recognizing the contract as completed . OTOH, giving engineers the ability to do stuff like re-position misplaced ladders is priceless! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miklkit Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 I have been having major physics problems with 1.11. It is to the point that I have lost all motivation to continue playing KSP. I like KSP and want to play it, but it is just plain broken. Will 1.12 fix the broken physics? Version 1.10 worked quite well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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