MKI Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 This is essentially the "opposite" thread. As everyone has ideas of what they would want in KSP 2, but I realized I don't think anyone is thinking about stuff they will not want to be added into KSP 2 compared to KSP 1, at least in the stock game, as anything is possible with mods. I for one would like to see the removal of some of the limiting gameplay mechanics, like basic SAS, and Kerbal experience ranks. Along with removal of parts of the KSC, such as the Administration Building and possibly even contracts. I feel like limiting simple gameplay mechanic such as SAS and Kerbal ranks are too "artificial" of a limitation, and becomes more pointless later with more advanced parts and higher rank Kerbals. For KSP 2, which will have a whole colony mechanic and interstellar travel, some of the KSC features will seem out-dated or out of focus. It's really hard to fathom why I'd care about contracts reputation of my space program when I have Kerbals on Mars building a colony. Its possible some aspects have been changed to be more streamlined, but I do hope some things aren't kept just as-is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missingno200 Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 You can already disable both in options, they apply primarily to career mode, which makes sense. Career mode needs an overhaul. I don't particularly want a KSP1 style career mode, where there's no loosing, just soft locking. I don't want to share my money and science points with others in multiplayer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattinoz Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 Kerbals as Ballast - They should either be there because they provide function or just use a probe core. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dientus Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 I don't want it to feel too 'grindy' and I want to feel accomplished when I advance. While I personally am a fan of progression, the career mode leaves much to be desired. In the original, it is either too easy or too hard. Even using the options I can't seem to find a sweet spot. And some items researched don't exactly seem to fit the tiers they are assigned or the contracts that are offered. I am happy they are doing away with KSP career style as it is, but I hope it's not replaced with something worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLTay Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 Another delay. That's what I do not want. Anything else can be worked with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Fluffy Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, TLTay said: Another delay. That's what I do not want. Anything else can be worked with. Yes. Edited July 13, 2021 by Admiral Fluffy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcwaffles2003 Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 9 hours ago, MKI said: I for one would like to see the removal of some of the limiting gameplay mechanics, like basic SAS You don't want stability assist in the game? O_o Good luck keeping your rocket oriented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klapaucius Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 Procedural parts. Or at least, very many of them. I am probably in the minority on this. I can understand a few limited items, but I do not want it to feel like Simple Planes (which is not to diss on Simple Planes, I just like KSP as it is in that department). The forced choices require me to be creative. It is more of a puzzle that way. I'm sure someone will create a KSP2 Tweakscale mod for those that wish it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shdwlrd Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 No artificial limits in the early game. Ex. Removing common, helpful functions because they may confuse new players. Forcing veteran players to grind through the basics before we can really start playing. (We can land on the mun already, Why must we prove it? Let us run.) Bugs (I know they happen, but it has to be said ) The kraken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superfluous J Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 I would not be sad if they found a way to eliminate right clicking parts and clicking one of a dozen randomly sorted buttons to perform a critical task. I'm talking .no.part.action.windows.at.all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKI Posted July 13, 2021 Author Share Posted July 13, 2021 7 hours ago, Superfluous J said: I would not be sad if they found a way to eliminate right clicking parts and clicking one of a dozen randomly sorted buttons to perform a critical task. I'm talking .no.part.action.windows.at.all. That would be an interesting change. But then where do all the fancy buttons go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuranAce Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 Manned before unmanned. I want to build stuff like small probes and sounding rockets far before manned spacecraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klapaucius Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Lancasterace said: Manned before unmanned. I want to build stuff like small probes and sounding rockets far before manned spacecraft. Do you mean unmanned before manned then? :-) I agree with that. Edited July 13, 2021 by Klapaucius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beccab Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 9 minutes ago, Klapaucius said: Do you mean unmanned before manned then? :-) I agree with that. The thread is about what not to put in KSP 2, so he's right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klapaucius Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 Just now, Beccab said: The thread is about what not to put in KSP 2, so he's right Good point. It's 7am here and I have not had coffee yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missingno200 Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 12 hours ago, mcwaffles2003 said: You don't want stability assist in the game? O_o Good luck keeping your rocket oriented. He doesn't want limited SAS, IE:early probes and unlevelled Kerbals. He wants the full SAS experience right out of the gate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bej Kerman Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 16 hours ago, TLTay said: Another delay. That's what I do not want. Anything else can be worked with. Rushing the game would only mean more bugs on launch. Do realise that people behind the scenes are actually taking time to develop the game and that being forced to hit a deadline would only get KSP 2 to approach just how broken KSP 1 is. I believe preventing further delays is the opposite of what everyone else wants. We just want a game that's had time to be developed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pthigrivi Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 I have to agree with kerbal skills, mostly. I could see some abilities getting added on but I hope they apply population-wide when you hit different milestones, rather than having to train each kerbal by touring them around landing them places. That gets old quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcwaffles2003 Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 36 minutes ago, Missingno200 said: He doesn't want limited SAS, IE:early probes and unlevelled Kerbals. He wants the full SAS experience right out of the gate. That's called sandbox or difficulty options... it's already in the game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Mcslay Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 Probes where you have to manually tell them to do stuff. If I put instruments on a satellite if should start gathering data automatically and not have to wait till it gets over a certain location. In KSP1 the most obvious usage for probes would be for missions where you have to take readings above x altitude at an specific location yet that is easily among the most tedious things to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuranAce Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 Yes 1 hour ago, Klapaucius said: Do you mean unmanned before manned then? :-) I agree with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Mcslay Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 On 7/12/2021 at 6:19 PM, MKI said: For KSP 2, which will have a whole colony mechanic and interstellar travel, some of the KSC features will seem out-dated or out of focus. It's really hard to fathom why I'd care about contracts reputation of my space program when I have Kerbals on Mars building a colony. Its possible some aspects have been changed to be more streamlined, but I do hope some things aren't kept just as-is. I don't think that rules out contracts, only that their scope would need to be reworked. You'll definitely start off landing an Mün and Minmus, and eventually reach contracts where you are tasked with launching a massive ship from Bop or populating a base on Rusk with 1000 Kerbals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linky Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 I don't want micromanagement for large ships and large colonies (starting out and early colonies would be fine, just to get them started). Expanding them would be nice, but resource management would be a pain when you simply want to explore. Ideally after set-up, one could just leave them be until you want to expand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superfluous J Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 7 hours ago, MKI said: That would be an interesting change. But then where do all the fancy buttons go? I don't know. I'm not a video game designer. But neither was the person who decided that was the correct way to go with the UI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roostergod Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 5 hours ago, Bej Kerman said: Rushing the game would only mean more bugs on launch. Do realise that people behind the scenes are actually taking time to develop the game and that being forced to hit a deadline would only get KSP 2 to approach just how broken KSP 1 is. I believe preventing further delays is the opposite of what everyone else wants. We just want a game that's had time to be developed. versus it releasing in 2025 with just as many bugs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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