Aliquido Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 (edited) IGNORE THIS TOPIC, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE. Edited September 29, 2022 by Aliquido Misinformation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aliquido Posted September 28, 2022 Author Share Posted September 28, 2022 Also, no mods, Making History and Breaking Ground are fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanamonde Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 But I don't think it's possible to take a surface sample, and your craft will likely destroy itself after a few seconds. Have you tried it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kspnerd122 Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 (edited) Try your challenge yourself first, impossible challenges arent fun for anyone, I see your new to the forum, so welcome, I hope you have a good time here, and assuming the next challenge you post is possible, I would gladly take part Edited September 29, 2022 by kspnerd122 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QF9E Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 (edited) On 9/27/2022 at 9:02 PM, Aliquido said: Land on Jool and take a surface sample, EVA Report, and plant a flag. Yes, it is possible to land on Jool. Look it up. Ok, I did look it up. According to the KSP wiki it is not possible to land on Jool: Quote Jool has no solid surface to land on; descending spacecraft will explode when they reach the altitude of -250 m. The message "... collided with Cloud" will be displayed in the mission summary. The game may glitch out and corrupt the save. Prior to version 0.23, it was possible to land on a solid surface, though spacecraft were inevitably and invariably devoured by the Kraken. Source: https://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/wiki/Jool. This matches my own experience in trying to land on Jool. My own experiments went as described: the craft will explode once you reach -250 meters, although I haven't experienced glitches or corrupt saves as a result. As to the note on "prior to version 0.23": Version 0.23 was released back in 2013. I don't think many people will be willing to play such an old version of the game, just to be able to complete this challenge. That said, by all means prove us wrong. Fly your own mission where you land on Jool, take a surface sample, plant a flag and get back to Jool orbit, and present video evidence of your mission here. Edited September 29, 2022 by QF9E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tilliepops Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 19 hours ago, Vanamonde said: But I don't think it's possible to take a surface sample, and your craft will likely destroy itself after a few seconds. Have you tried it? i think i rember that one of the ksp devs put a planetform on jool so that you could land there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kspnerd122 Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 Jool does not have any sort of surface science you cant land on it, period Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aliquido Posted September 29, 2022 Author Share Posted September 29, 2022 Thanks for correcting me, I think it may have been a very early version of KSP. But I do remember that at one point, there was an invisible platform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanamonde Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 At a certain altitude there's a barrier which represents being crushed by atmospheric pressure (or the like). An occasional glitch might allow a craft to contact that without being destroyed and sit on it for a while, but it's very buggy and the craft usually jitters around until it breaks apart. Science cannot be collected from it. (Or at least that's how it was the last time I tried it.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camacju Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 (edited) For the record, HoDeok was able to get a craft stable in the "Landed at Jool" state by transferring a craft in the landed state all the way to Jool. Notably, this effect will transfer between crafts - a craft landed on an already-landed Jool platform will also be landed. So you can indeed get surface science from Jool. Likely this is what the OP was thinking about, but it's a pretty niche mechanic and I don't fault everyone here for not knowing about it. Edit: Apparently they were thinking about something else entirely. But the challenge is definitely possible, if a bit tedious. Edited September 30, 2022 by camacju Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aliquido Posted September 30, 2022 Author Share Posted September 30, 2022 I just dont really know if I should delete the challenge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Fluffy Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 5 hours ago, Aliquido said: I just dont really know if I should delete the challenge? There is a thing kind of like this, the Jool Diver Challenge by @Dr. Kerbal And no, i don't think you should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aliquido Posted October 1, 2022 Author Share Posted October 1, 2022 21 hours ago, Admiral Fluffy said: There is a thing kind of like this, the Jool Diver Challenge by @Dr. Kerbal And no, i don't think you should. Ok, thank you admiral! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bej Kerman Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 On 9/30/2022 at 5:22 PM, Aliquido said: I just dont really know if I should delete the challenge? You'd need to ask a mod to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnemoe Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Back around KSP 1.7 times, Jool had an surface, this was just after flags got released so I tried to plant an flag on Jool. Used an airship mod to let me float just about the 0 meter attitude, then I used an KAS winch to lower Jeb down to the -200 meter surface. Now on the surface he was tossed around and I was not able to plant a flag even if trying for many minutes so I gave up winched him up and had him climb to the top of the accent rocket, dumped the deorbit and winch module and fully inflated the balloons. At max attitude I jettisoned the balloons and burned back to orbit there Jeb was recovered Submitted it as an fun bug report. Next version did not have the surface and Jool was transparent at low attitude as in a couple of kilometer above 0, yes you see trough it and can see moons on the other side. Still think its so but not been down there for some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShuttlePilot Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Change your post name to: Land on Jool... (No, that's not possible) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nazalassa Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 But what if you use a flying platform, and land a ship on it? Would it be considered as "landed"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zacspace Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 5 hours ago, Nazalassa said: But what if you use a flying platform, and land a ship on it? Would it be considered as "landed"? The vessel you land on has to itself be landed in order for it to count like that. In HoDeok's video that Camacju mentioned earlier, HoDeok used a specially designed platform to glance off of Vall's surface during a flyby, exploiting a glitch to pick up the landed state despite not actually having landed, and then flying to Jool in real time in order to keep it technically landed until low in Jool's atmosphere. He's then able to land on it while it just floats there due to another exploit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerbal123_Furry Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Try 0.17! Jool is landable in 0.17! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nazalassa Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 On 11/25/2022 at 3:21 AM, Kerbal123_Furry said: Try 0.17! Jool is landable in 0.17! Not anyone have KSP 0.17. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerbal123_Furry Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 On 11/26/2022 at 8:01 PM, Nazalassa said: Not anyone have KSP 0.17. Anyway i succeed。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richmountain112 Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 How about "Get to an altitude of Zero and return to Kerbin"? Does that work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerbal123_Furry Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 On 12/18/2022 at 3:56 AM, Richmountain112 said: How about "Get to an altitude of Zero and return to Kerbin"? Does that work? propeller+S3KS25+T-1possible work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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