Bej Kerman Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Just now, Snafu225 said: Having read a lot on this forum, I'm afraid some have expectations in the game which are blown out of proportion or feasibility. I'm almost certain many will be disappointed on release. I won't name names but it's only a few people that hold KSP 2 to silly expectations. Rest assured, KSP 2 won't be bombed with negative reviews saying "there's too much green", etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gojira Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 4 hours ago, Bej Kerman said: I won't name names but it's only a few people that hold KSP 2 to silly expectations. Rest assured, KSP 2 won't be bombed with negative reviews saying "there's too much green", etc. 7/10, too much water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bej Kerman Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Gojira said: 4 hours ago, Bej Kerman said: I won't name names but it's only a few people that hold KSP 2 to silly expectations. Rest assured, KSP 2 won't be bombed with negative reviews saying "there's too much green", etc. 7/10, too much water 0/10, KSP 2 didn't follow other games in the pursuit of vapid realistic graphics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K^2 Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Gojira said: 7/10, too much water But 7/10 is exactly how much water it's supposed to have! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xelo Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 14 hours ago, Bej Kerman said: I won't name names but it's only a few people that hold KSP 2 to silly expectations. Rest assured, KSP 2 won't be bombed with negative reviews saying "there's too much green", etc. That is until you've seen the circus that is steam community discussions on ksp2 o-o I have fears this forum is incredibly tame compared to a more general sample of prospective KSP 2 buyers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luriss Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Xelo said: That is until you've seen the circus that is steam community discussions on ksp2 o-o I have fears this forum is incredibly tame compared to a more general sample of prospective KSP 2 buyers. When you consider that this forum is populated by pretty die hard ksp fans that have the energy to speculate about the game months from release, it's no surprise that this forum is pretty tame in terms of criticism. The reaction during release will probably be somewhere between this forum and the steam forums. 60ish% steam review score with the lack of features being the biggest sticking point. Something along the lines of "We waited four years and we don't even get IVA!? This game is a scam just play modded ksp 1" is probably gonna be a pretty standard response during launch. Edited January 8, 2023 by Luriss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Luriss said: Something along the lines of "We waited four years and we don't even get IVA!? This game is a scam just play modded ksp 1" is probably gonna be a pretty standard response during launch. Steam Reviews require you to have and play the game, the QOL features and overall gameplay improvements should be way more obvious while you play than they are in screenshots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luriss Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 41 minutes ago, Master39 said: Steam Reviews require you to have and play the game, the QOL features and overall gameplay improvements should be way more obvious while you play than they are in screenshots. I take a more pessimistic view. People will probably just see the things from that are missing while ignoring all the new improvements and QoL stuff. The reception will be more positive in the long term however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KalleHeHa Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 i decided to recreate one of the beta screenshots in stock ksp, to compare graphics. its safe to say there is a massive difference, but i do feel like the ksp2 screenshot is missing some aerodynamic effects. assuming the SRB's are clydesdales in the beta screenshot my ksp1 craft cant really be going much faster as it is only the SRB's firing. so i think there should be aero effects Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vl3d Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, KalleHeHa said: i decided to recreate one of the beta screenshots in stock ksp, to compare graphics. its safe to say there is a massive difference, but i do feel like the ksp2 screenshot is missing some aerodynamic effects. assuming the SRB's are clydesdales in the beta screenshot my ksp1 craft cant really be going much faster as it is only the SRB's firing. so i think there should be aero effects Do a screenshot with visual mods added too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KalleHeHa Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 15 minutes ago, Vl3d said: Do a screenshot with visual mods added too. I would but I don't have any right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snafu225 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 3 hours ago, KalleHeHa said: i decided to recreate one of the beta screenshots in stock ksp, to compare graphics. its safe to say there is a massive difference, but i do feel like the ksp2 screenshot is missing some aerodynamic effects. assuming the SRB's are clydesdales in the beta screenshot my ksp1 craft cant really be going much faster as it is only the SRB's firing. so i think there should be aero effects Wow, I can't remember the last time I played without at least visual mods. Completely forgot how stock KSP looks plus even though I still play KSP1 I already got hit with the nostalgia fellacy. What are the chances you'll compare more of those screenshots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KalleHeHa Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Snafu225 said: What are the chances you'll compare more of those screenshots? I would love to, I had a lot of fun doing the first one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rutabaga22 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, KalleHeHa said: i decided to recreate one of the beta screenshots in stock ksp, to compare graphics. its safe to say there is a massive difference, but i do feel like the ksp2 screenshot is missing some aerodynamic effects. assuming the SRB's are clydesdales in the beta screenshot my ksp1 craft cant really be going much faster as it is only the SRB's firing. so i think there should be aero effects Oh wait! Looking at htese, the KSC is on the same spot! I thought they'd move it. Do you have a craft file? I'd really like to try this out on my visual modded save. Edited January 8, 2023 by Rutabaga22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Aziz Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, KalleHeHa said: i decided to recreate one of the beta screenshots in stock ksp, to compare graphics. its safe to say there is a massive difference, but i do feel like the ksp2 screenshot is missing some aerodynamic effects. assuming the SRB's are clydesdales in the beta screenshot my ksp1 craft cant really be going much faster as it is only the SRB's firing. so i think there should be aero effects Were you running on low settings? The texture tiling, the low polygon count on the mountains in the distance, this is not how stock KSP looks like on highest settings. Also, to whoever will try it, you can compare the modded KSP to the sequel all you want but keep in mind, again, that KSP2 devs are not aiming for their game to look better than KSP1 with <a certain and very specific set of mods>. Edited January 8, 2023 by The Aziz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KalleHeHa Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, The Aziz said: Were you running on low settings? The texture tiling, the low polygon count on the mountains in the distance, this is not how stock KSP looks like on highest settings. Also, to whoever will try it, you can compare the modded KSP to the sequel all you want but keep in mind, again, that KSP2 devs are not aiming for their game to look better than KSP1 with <a certain and very specific set of mods>. not quite the highest quality but close, ive turned them up now Edited January 8, 2023 by KalleHeHa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minmus Taster Posted January 8, 2023 Author Share Posted January 8, 2023 5 hours ago, KalleHeHa said: i decided to recreate one of the beta screenshots in stock ksp, to compare graphics. its safe to say there is a massive difference, but i do feel like the ksp2 screenshot is missing some aerodynamic effects. assuming the SRB's are clydesdales in the beta screenshot my ksp1 craft cant really be going much faster as it is only the SRB's firing. so i think there should be aero effects As far as I'm concerned the missing effects are good, as far as I know you don't launch a rocket in the real world and have it be set alight on ascent. I think it has more to do with how they've tweaked the atmosphere than the actual effect being impossible to create. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KalleHeHa Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 13 minutes ago, Minmus Taster said: As far as I'm concerned the missing effects are good, as far as I know you don't launch a rocket in the real world and have it be set alight on ascent. I think it has more to do with how they've tweaked the atmosphere than the actual effect being impossible to create. I think you are totally correct, the first ksp would have just been a bit inaccurate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bej Kerman Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 2 hours ago, The Aziz said: Also, to whoever will try it, you can compare the modded KSP to the sequel all you want but keep in mind, again, that KSP2 devs are not aiming for their game to look better than KSP1 with <a certain and very specific set of mods>. They are also aiming for a proper visual style, not the trademark cobbled-together realistic-ish look you get from visual mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regex Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 No indication of procedural tanks and for now it looks like a graphics/optimization pass on KSP1. Big disappointment here. I think I'm going to have to wait for future updates before I commit to buying this, especially with progression mechanics unknown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vl3d Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, regex said: No indication of procedural tanks and for now it looks like a graphics/optimization pass on KSP1. Big disappointment here. I think I'm going to have to wait for future updates before I commit to buying this, especially with progression mechanics unknown. It is what it is. Some of us will go in as early adopters and try to help with the bugs and direction. I assume most of the game is already designed and implemented, so I'm not sure how much influence we will carry, but I hope the devs at least had a look at some of the wishlists and will pick what they believe is best for gameplay. Onward! Do you guys think there will be a marketing campaign before launch? My biggest gripe is the lack of information about the new game systems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechBFP Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 11 minutes ago, Vl3d said: Do you guys think there will be a marketing campaign before launch? Doesn’t look like it, and if they do do anything, it will be pretty small. They are likely saving those costs for the 1.0 release where it will be more profitable since the price will increase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Aziz Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Pretty much. Big advertising makes no sense when all you've got to say is "hey here's our new game we've been working on for the last 5 years but it ain't finished yet, plz buy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bej Kerman Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 1 hour ago, regex said: No indication of procedural tanks and for now it looks like a graphics/optimization pass on KSP1. Big disappointment here. I think I'm going to have to wait for future updates before I commit to buying this, especially with progression mechanics unknown. So you've not read a single dev post, I assume? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regex Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 29 minutes ago, Bej Kerman said: So you've not read a single dev post, I assume? Oh I have. They're incredibly light on details. Which is fine, that's their choice. I just don't really see anything here to get excited about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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