Spartwo Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 (edited) This was the craft I could probably beat my record. Edited December 1, 2014 by Spartwo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrenwaste Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 (edited) Hmm, just built a plane that hit 2349 on it's first flight...and it had extra weight and drag on it. I'm a pare it down a bit and see if I can't break 2360 for the record! If not, well, I'm sure I can beat 2349 and that beats my personal record so I'll post that. Heh, I got the thing out to an apoapsis of more than 315,000 meters and my periapsis was just under 60,000. Almost achieved stable orbit with nothing but jets! Edited January 20, 2014 by barrenwaste Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrenwaste Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Ok, I lightened the Stargazer up a bit but I just couldn't 2360. I did come close, though, with a top speed of 2356 m/s. The flight lasted 2 1/2 hours, including five orbits around Kerban, 4 atmospheric re-entries, and three pairs of soiled undershorts (Bill did NOT like some of the flight). In the pictures you'll notice that the plane has monopropellant. That's because the Stargazer started as an ssto that was wildly fast and I forgot to take it out. The mono is never used, and in the pictures you can see that it remains the same at 7.50.Manned MissionStockSpeed 2356 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartwo Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Would increasing surface gravity be allowed in order to make it easier to stay in the atmosphere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tavert Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Would increasing surface gravity be allowed in order to make it easier to stay in the atmosphere?Try going retrograde. Or polar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numerobis Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Try going retrograde. Or polar.Polar is perfect. Retrograde, you're going too slow and need some thrust to counteract gravity.But TheHengeProphet is showing that you're actually better off going 0 inclination, and I think I understand why. The max speed you can get with your jets is ~2340 m/s. You can achieve that at any altitude in the atmosphere above where you run out of air. For example, you can be going 2340 m/s at 69 km, with periapsis at 40 km. Energy is maintained, so when you get back down to 40 km, your speed must be higher than 2340 m/s (unless drag took away the extra energy). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tavert Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Yeah, I took the same approach, doing extra-atmospheric skips with extra thrusting while in the atmosphere, last time I ran this challenge. Takes a lot longer though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartwo Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Already did polar.I just have no Idea how people are going so fast off one engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbhead Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 It is time for me to reclaim my throne!And I have done so. With a maximum ground speed of 2367!This, however, is not my submission, no. This is unsatisfactory!There are problems, bugs. an empty flight events log (due to doing this attempt over multiple sessions). things that need to be fixed!But how can I accept 2367, when I know that even faster is possible? HOW?or i just might post the rest of this set if i get tired of trying... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingtj44 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 (edited) Time to get out the BlackStar againAlso pb that is really fast... Edited January 21, 2014 by Kingtj44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbhead Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 (edited) 2373.4 But I ran out of fuel. I must go faster!I MUST! Edited January 22, 2014 by Pbhead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbhead Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 (edited) Jeb is currently out of fuel in a decaying obit... long story. Anyway, it is bill's turn!Step one! get in the ship! "Maximum 8irhog Mk.8" is close enough.I probably didnt have to use jet engines to dispose of the crew capsule, but better safe than sorry. unfortunately the darkness makes it hard to see what happened. here is a image from a different attempt, but you get the idea:Anyway, To space!wait, not that thing,To space!At apoapsis, burning. decently high speed.about to stage separate after a second orbit. got to a decently fast speed even before staging. but that is not nearly fast enough!after pulling out of the atmosphere, and a little pop! It is quite beautiful if I do say so myself.But that is not why we are here. We are here to go faster!And FASTER!and then we ran out of gas. bummer.but 2376.6 will have to be fast enough for now.I am unsatisfied that the game did not round up for me to 2377 on the screen, but that is ok.I thought of a few more tricks to eek out a few more 1/100ths of a m/s... but I think I will save them for another patch. Edited January 22, 2014 by Pbhead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHengeProphet Posted January 24, 2014 Author Share Posted January 24, 2014 What exactly was dumped at 1:42:38?And... holy crap that thing is amazing.I'll try to update the board after work tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbhead Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 What exactly was dumped at 1:42:38?2 fuel tanks, 2 fuel lines, the landing gear, and the decouplers attaching them to the craft. They detached symmetrically, thus no net force exerted on the main craft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halo_003 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 (edited) Javascript is disabled. View full albumFirst plane designed for the challenge, 2310.6m/s isn't too bad IMO.Edit: How do you embed an album from imgur? Edited January 25, 2014 by Halo_003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHengeProphet Posted January 25, 2014 Author Share Posted January 25, 2014 <iframe class="imgur-album" width="100%" height="550" frameborder="0" src="http://imgur.com/a/E4K2I/embed"></iframe>First plane designed for the challenge, 2310.6m/s isn't too bad IMO.Edit: How do you embed an album from imgur?[imgur-]http://imgur.com/a/E4K2Iz[/imgur] Just remove the "-" from the first brackets.Alright, boards updated. And to answer a prior question, no, you cannot manipulate gravity... That's manipulating the flight dynamics of the world.Also, Pbhead, I kinda hate you for beating me! XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartwo Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 [imgur-]http://imgur.com/a/E4K2Iz[/imgur] Just remove the "-" from the first brackets.Alright, boards updated. And to answer a prior question, no, you cannot manipulate gravity... That's manipulating the flight dynamics of the world.Also, Pbhead, I kinda hate you for beating me! XDIt's[imgur-]E4K2Iz[/imgur] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbhead Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Also, Pbhead, I kinda hate you for beating me! XDWhat, you think I'd let go of my throne that easy?Hopefully there will be some cool new stuffs in the next few patches.I most certainly do want to go even faster! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHengeProphet Posted January 25, 2014 Author Share Posted January 25, 2014 Thanks for the correction, Spartwo.I think something is broken with FAR at the moment. I decided to fly around with one of my old test craft, and I got to 2740 m/s, with only two of the radial scoops, at 43km altitude... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halo_003 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Thanks guys, got it working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halo_003 Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 (edited) After numerous attempts.... RESIST I flown by the fearless Sonsel Kerman hit a max speed of 2332.0m/s. (And sustained that speed for ~4-5 seconds.Only issue is I recovered the craft without remembering to take a flight log shot. Hopefully since it's very detailed and picture heavy it's okay. I can't rerun it obviously without starting from the beginning. (no quicksaves) While the real mission was outbound, I had time to land a previous failed attempt (EST 1.1) at KSC, also featured.Javascript is disabled. View full albumThe launch platform allowed me to keep the RESIST I to a minimum, and dropping the landing gear is just cool. While I could have placed RCS on the launcher and then used that to force an early reentry for the launcher while the RESIST I was still outbound, I wasn't sure if that would be okay, and I didn't want to look like I cheated. Although there is oxidizer present on the launcher, it is unused. (Proof in pictures.) Forgot to log in on imgur though, so it doesn't say the album is mine but I have all of the original photos obviously. Edited January 26, 2014 by Halo_003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHengeProphet Posted January 28, 2014 Author Share Posted January 28, 2014 Sorry Halo_003, I do need that flightlog... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halo_003 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Dang, okay I'll rerun this weekend when I have time. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrike42 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Whoa, numbers have seriously gone up this time around. Guess I'll need to make a new challenger in sandbox, 'cause I'm just plodding through career. Heh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yakky Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Apologies in advance for a potentially stupid question that might already have been answered on one of this thread's 40 pages. How does the KSP game define "speed over land" for its logging purposes? Is there an altitude limit and/or some other kind of limit? I'm thinking about trying to build an entry here. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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