BudgetHedgehog Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 SpacePort was a crock of **** and the devs time would've been better spent elsewhere than updating it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike9606 Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 If your links to curse mods aren't working, that's a problem with the link. Even if the link doesn't work, it is most likely not the site and that the link is simply broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starwaster Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Not a single time have I clicked on a link to a mod on Curse and been directed straight to the mod page. Always to the Kerbal page. At which point I learn that not even a significant portion of mods claimed to be on the website are actually even on it. Most important of all, though, is the fact that many unmaintained mods will cease to exist if spaceport does - meaning a large amount of meticulously created content will be deleted. As TT says, this is simply unacceptable. Spaceport should have simply been maintained better, and was probably due for an update or two as well.If I click on a Curse link to a mod on this forum I am taken to the mod's curse page.If I go to the Curse mod listing and click on a link there for a mod I am taken to the mod's curse page.Perhaps in the past you clicked on a kerbalspaceprogram.com link post-shutdown, which used to cause a redirect to curse's Kerbal landing page.That's the only reason why I can think that you would think Curse is that broken. Either that or you're trolling and I don't think you're trolling. Just confused.Let's try a Curse link now:http://kerbal.curseforge.com/parts/220639-gingercorp-stock-alike-station-hubs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sumghai Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Perhaps in the past you clicked on a kerbalspaceprogram.com link post-shutdown, which used to cause a redirect to curse's Kerbal landing page.That's the only reason why I can think that you would think Curse is that broken. Either that or you're trolling and I don't think you're trolling. Just confused.Bolded for emphasis. I've observed some users making the erroneous assumption that all the old SpacePort download links will automatically redirect to the Curse / CurseForge equivalent (if any exist), when in fact the namespaces and SEO-friendly URLs can be quite different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derpotron Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 I just have one question,Will We Eventually Be Able To Download It?I think that might satisfy many people here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike9606 Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Sadly Derpotron, the answer to your question is most likely no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horndgmium Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Well that explains a lot. My bad. But that still goes to show that tons of authors have yet to support curse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horndgmium Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Edit: derp Internet submitted my comment twice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derpotron Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Oh well. But maybe you can upload the mod to Mediafire or Dropbox, and be completely free of curse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpast Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Nope. TT didn't object to Curse at all. He objected to shutting down Spaceport, and, more importantly, losing all the content that was uploaded only there. Any upload to any other site would be both against the license, and against his clearly expressed wishes; Curse has nothing to do with anything here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboRay Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Right. His response to that content being lost was to ensure his own content stayed lost. Oh, well. That's his choice to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derpotron Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Nope. TT didn't object to Curse at all. He objected to shutting down Spaceport, and, more importantly, losing all the content that was uploaded only there. Any upload to any other site would be both against the license, and against his clearly expressed wishes; Curse has nothing to do with anything here.But I think you can just contact the devs to get your content. They saved it when they shut down spaceport, so why would they keep it away from you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpast Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Right, but you can't get the content of, say, users who have left - all you can get is your own content, because Squad has backups even if you don't (that's not something special Squad did, it's standard practice with any server ever to have backups of data). His signature at one point read "Users come and go, their legacy should stay forever." He had copies of his own stuff, but his objection was to the fact that people's legacies were being lost. Relevant post of his: http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/79011-The-Curse-Thread?p=1143643&viewfull=1#post1143643 (note: this was its own thread till it was merged into the Curse thread, which is why it looks like an OP, not a reply)About explaining his reasoning: Look, I'm not TT, I'm just repeating what he said. He couldn't care less what site Squad was moving to, he cared that they closed Spaceport and took down public access to all files on it. He now doesn't want his mods reuploaded, and per the license, that means you can't reupload them. It doesn't matter what site you use, since his problem wasn't with any specific site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starwaster Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Well that explains a lot. My bad. But that still goes to show that tons of authors have yet to support curseI doubt it shows any such thing. It shows authors who aren't updating their own threads when changing circumstances affect their mods. It can't have demonstrated any stance towards Curse one way or the other or you wouldn't have been in the dark until now. And I doubt the actual number of authors involved is 'tons'; a fairly nebulous term that means.... nothing.For myself I find that the mods that I use are divided into several categories:Those who used Spaceport to distribute and who switched to Curse either in advance of or after the shutdown of SpaceportThose who used Spaceport and refuse to migrate to Curse. Instead they use an alternate distribution method.Those who used Spaceport and refuse to migrate to Curse. They took their ball and went home. (i.e. their mods are no longer available. PERIOD)Those who used Spaceport to distribute but who abandoned their mods months ago and either are in the dark as to its status or simply no longer care about their mods.Those who never used Spaceport to distribute and for whom the shutdown of Spaceport has affected their distribution channel not at all. (the current status of their mod's availability is not linked to the fall of Spaceport)Most of the mods I use or keep abreast of fall into category 1 or 2. (most into 1)I only know of one confirmed author who falls into category 3. POSSIBLY two, but the second possibly is a category 2 and hasn't decided on a distribution method yet.I don't know how many fall into category 4 but it seems like quite a lot of them. People lose interest in the game as a whole or fell victim to real life considerations that sucked up their time. (finals, graduation, moving, new job, no job, etc)And quite a few are category 5. Maybe their mods were small and not deemed large enough to want to host on something like Spaceport in the first place. Dropbox, Github or Mediafire and the like. A lot of the mods I use fall into this category like DREC or RSS or FAR.Bottom line though is that unless an author has openly stated his stance towards Curse (or the move in general) you really can't infer lack of support based on them not uploading to Curse and updating the download link. Given that you've been clicking on outdated links you would think those 'tons' of authors would have openly stated in their threads why those update links no longer went somewhere useful. And yet here you sit in the dark dependent on us to explain to you why the links no longer work. Sounds to me like 'tons' of authors are just category 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolbros Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 http://********************.com/space/modpart-tt-neverunload-1533.html this might help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javster Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 (edited) http://********************.com/space/modpart-tt-neverunload-1533.html this might help What does the ******************* represent exactly??Also what does the license say about re-uploading stuff? Could someone with the mod re-upload it here with appropriate credits? Edited June 18, 2014 by Javster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudgetHedgehog Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 A blacklisted site here. It scraped Spaceport and continues to violate copyright law by making available mods with restrictive licenses, such as this one. There's more info in the stickied thread.And no, the license prohibits redistribution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboRay Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Saying "the stickied thread" doesn't really offer anything useful, since there seems to be no relevant stickied thread in this forum. Can you say which stickied thread, in what forum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudgetHedgehog Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Apologies, my phone is awful at doing more than one thing at a timh.http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/82588-A-Potential-Scraping-of-Spaceport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starwaster Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Saying "the stickied thread" doesn't really offer anything useful, since there seems to be no relevant stickied thread in this forum. Can you say which stickied thread, in what forum?It's in General Addon Affairs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboRay Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Ah, got it. Thanks. I hadn't heard about that before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curiousepic Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 FYI it looks like KOS has some sort of loading distance modification feature. Haven't checked it out yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelhester07 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Is this mod available anywhere? I want to use it to enjoy long distance views of my stanford toruses (50km load range). Or is there anything that does something similar to this. It might be time for me to get into plugin writing anyway with my plan for progressive science experiments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starwaster Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Is this mod available anywhere? I want to use it to enjoy long distance views of my stanford toruses (50km load range). Or is there anything that does something similar to this. It might be time for me to get into plugin writing anyway with my plan for progressive science experiments.if this mod is available anywhere then it is in violation of its license. If you think you can create one like it then I think it would be a good idea for you to try it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntiMatter001 Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 uhm... i just came across this.... i would so love to have it... but alas unless TT reuploads it i don't think i'll have it anytime soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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