Happybone Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 (edited) This is funny. If Squad used the sound, people would be whining about "no sound in space" and mods that remove the "KSSSS" would be made.I like silence, it's realistic. RCS thrust can't be heard even if you'd put a mic a metre away. Gas dissipates so easily in vacuum. Basically few centimetres away from the nozzle there are no sound waves anymore - molecules just fly away like bullets.lajoswinkler, just curious, I know that the RCS thrusters are outside of the space craft. But wouldn't the astronauts (kerbonauts) inside the space craft hear the thrusters operating? I realize since there is not an atmosphere in space there is no way for sound to be produced, but inside the craft there is an atmosphere. So wouldn't they at least hear the sound of the monopropellant being pushed through the pipeworks and nozzles; or the sound of the pumps operating that are inside the hull? I'm honestly asking because I am not an expert on these things but your post definitely got me thinking. Edited January 12, 2014 by Happybone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NathanKell Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 pizzaoverhead, a request if I might? Instead of hardcoding for MonoPropellant, can you instead use this.resourceName? Since RealFuels may change the RCS module's fuel type.(In the latest prerelease of Real Fuels I have working support for getting around the fact you replace ModuleRCS with your own module, so at least nothing crashes, but your module only plays light/sound when Monoprop is being used as the fuel because you check for that rather than the module's actual specified resource.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pizzaoverhead Posted January 13, 2014 Author Share Posted January 13, 2014 pizzaoverhead, a request if I might? Instead of hardcoding for MonoPropellant, can you instead use this.resourceName? Since RealFuels may change the RCS module's fuel type.(In the latest prerelease of Real Fuels I have working support for getting around the fact you replace ModuleRCS with your own module, so at least nothing crashes, but your module only plays light/sound when Monoprop is being used as the fuel because you check for that rather than the module's actual specified resource.)Thanks Nathan, I'll fix that in the next release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoneyFox Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 lajoswinkler, just curious, I know that the RCS thrusters are outside of the space craft. But wouldn't the astronauts (kerbonauts) inside the space craft hear the thrusters operating? I realize since there is not an atmosphere in space there is no way for sound to be produced, but inside the craft there is an atmosphere. So wouldn't they at least hear the sound of the monopropellant being pushed through the pipeworks and nozzles; or the sound of the pumps operating that are inside the hull? I'm honestly asking because I am not an expert on these things but your post definitely got me thinking.I remember this has been discussed before and in that discussion someone said that the "pufff..." or "kssss" sound of RCS might not be loud enough for crews to hear even though there is media (vessel hull, air in cabin, etc) to transmit. instead the sound of internal devices of RCS like valves or pipes might emit some sound that crews can hear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NathanKell Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 pizzaoverhead: Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyLunch Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Thanks Pizzaoverhead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Himidori Shuumoto Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 The version I got from the spaceport is still 2.0. Where can I get 3.0？ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pizzaoverhead Posted January 17, 2014 Author Share Posted January 17, 2014 Looks like SpacePort won't update the download. I've switched to MediaFire instead. You can download version 3.0 here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DasBananenbrot Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Atmospheric Sound Enhancement does automatically muffle every sound, right? So if I include this I should hear a rumbling of the RCS if this mod is installed ...Just want to know if it would pointle or not to install this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDude Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Is it possible as a future feature to have this change the FX for RCS thrusters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabakhase Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Very nice mod, but I would like to turn off your debugging output, can´t see my own anymore and producing 200megabytes of "Debug: RCS volume xy" is probably not needed ;Pthank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pizzaoverhead Posted January 18, 2014 Author Share Posted January 18, 2014 Very nice mod, but I would like to turn off your debugging output, can´t see my own anymore and producing 200megabytes of "Debug: RCS volume xy" is probably not needed ;Pthank youThanks for the bug report! I'll be able to release a fix for this tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pizzaoverhead Posted January 19, 2014 Author Share Posted January 19, 2014 Version 3.1 is now out. It's a bugfix for the debug output to the log. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3_bit Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 This sounds interesting. It will definitely be something we'll be seeing in the many IVA-only videos floating around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigNose Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Very neat mod, I'll use it from now on.The lighting effect is a very nice idea and looks good, but there is a bug to report:If the RCS Fuel runs out, the lights from the thrusters which were active during the time remain on, even though the sound stops correctly. Little oversight.Otherwise, great addition to the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABZB Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Very neat mod, I'll use it from now on.The lighting effect is a very nice idea and looks good, but there is a bug to report:If the RCS Fuel runs out, the lights from the thrusters which were active during the time remain on, even though the sound stops correctly. Little oversight.Otherwise, great addition to the game.I have noticed this happen occasionally with the regular engines too (even in stock, I have not even installed this mod yet), if I shut down an engine or engines using an action group while they are firing (such as when I am landing and need to use very little thrust). In that case they also continue to show the firing animation indefinitely, although they produce no sound. There might be a more genral-case bug floating around here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pingonaut Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 The last time I used this mod it didn't really sound like my idea of RCS. Honestly, it sounded more like a short burst of loud and piercing static. Is that different, now? Would you mind adding a video of the sound and lights to the OP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pizzaoverhead Posted March 3, 2014 Author Share Posted March 3, 2014 Very neat mod, I'll use it from now on.The lighting effect is a very nice idea and looks good, but there is a bug to report:If the RCS Fuel runs out, the lights from the thrusters which were active during the time remain on, even though the sound stops correctly. Little oversight.Otherwise, great addition to the game.Thanks for the bug report, I'll check it out.I have noticed this happen occasionally with the regular engines too (even in stock, I have not even installed this mod yet), if I shut down an engine or engines using an action group while they are firing (such as when I am landing and need to use very little thrust). In that case they also continue to show the firing animation indefinitely, although they produce no sound. There might be a more genral-case bug floating around here.I'm pretty sure it's an oversight on my part. Looks like it's a common one to make! The last time I used this mod it didn't really sound like my idea of RCS. Honestly, it sounded more like a short burst of loud and piercing static. Is that different, now? Would you mind adding a video of the sound and lights to the OP?Daishi made the new sounds included, and also a video demonstrating them: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pingonaut Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Daishi made the new sounds included, and also a video demonstrating them:That sounds fantastic, thanks for the example! I'll add it to my mods, I suggest adding the video to the OP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pizzaoverhead Posted March 9, 2014 Author Share Posted March 9, 2014 RCS Sounds version 3.2 is now ready to download on SpacePort and MediaFire. It fixes the lighting effect not being disabled when running out of fuel.If you're upgrading from an old release, delete RcsMedium.wav from GameData\RcsSounds\Sounds if you're not using it to save a small amount of memory and loading time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raidernick Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 I just upgraded from V1.1 and now I no longer hear internal RCS sounds. I have internalRcsSoundsOnly = true and I still hear the rcs sounds outside but not inside. Should it not be the opposite? Also, since upgrading atmospheric sound enhancement no longer mutes the external rcs sounds in space, which it did on the older version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingopete Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 I'm running real fuels and get a freeze with this mods running halfway through start up load. Always freezes when loading the Realism Overhaul RCS_AIES and RCS_KW configs. It's a shame this is a greatly immersive mod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NathanKell Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Update this mod and update Real Fuels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingopete Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Update this mod and update Real Fuels.I'm still getting stuck on AIES_aerospace/RCSthruster files Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NathanKell Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Have you tried with RCS Sounds uninstalled? To verify that's the issue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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