Mitchz95 Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 Not sure if this is doable, but could the next release of DR make it dangerous to get too close to the surface of the Sun? I.e., you'd need heatshields to get close enough to safely collect science from "near the Sun" without burning up. Kind of like in Sunshine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyjack Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 Where I can get bigger heatshields? All of them have to small diameter for ship like this:http://i.imgur.com/13k5JmZ.jpgI would burn up my radiators and landing legs... so for now I just brake to 0, as there were no atmosphere.You could use http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/70676-WIP-Procedural-Parts-Parts-the-way-you-want-em Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starwaster Posted June 6, 2014 Author Share Posted June 6, 2014 Hey guys, just FYI. I think I solved the problem I was having. It has to do with the Deadly Reentry .dll file that comes with the PlaCo Heatshields pack. WARNING: DO RUN THIS .DLL - IT WILL COMPLETELY SCREW UP YOUR DEADLY REENTRY MOD.I hope this helps any else who runs into this.errrr if Placo COMES with a DRE dll then... wow that's got to be painfully outdated. No wonder you had trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinote Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 I apologize if this is already a known issue, but has anybody else been having trouble with 'TweakableEverything 1-2' causing the heat shields to continuously play a puff of white smoke in both the VAB and low level flight?I spent a good chunk of the past hour removing mods one by one until I found the culprit, and it definitely seems to be TweakableEverything; remove it and the puff of smoke goes away only to return when the mod is replaced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NathanKell Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Tweakable Everything tends to break stuff, yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocinante89 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 I'm trying to add heat shields to some command pods I downloaded, specifically the Spacex Dragon capsule by LazTek. I added these lines to the capsules .cfg but it didn't work. Can anybody tell me where i'm going wrong? MODULE { name = ModuleHeatShield direction = 0, -1, 0 // bottom of pod reflective = 0.05 // 5% of heat is ignored at correct angle ablative = AblativeShielding loss { // loss is based on the shockwave temperature (also based on density) key = 650 0 // start ablating at 650 degrees C key = 1000 64 // peak ablation at 1000 degrees C key = 3000 80 // max ablation at 3000 degrees C } dissipation { // dissipation is based on the part's current temperature key = 300 0 // begin ablating at 300 degrees C key = 500 360 // maximum dissipation at 500 degrees C } } RESOURCE { name = AblativeShielding amount = 250 maxAmount = 250 } MODULE { name = ModuleDecouple ejectionForce = 40 explosiveNodeID = bottom staged = true } Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NathanKell Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 1. Show the whole part.cfg2. Didn't work *how*? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocinante89 Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Sorry, I wasn't sure how much I needed to add, kinda new to this side of things! I mean not working as in the ablative shielding value doesn't appear on the resource panel. I've been taking that to meant that i've done something wrong somewhere along the line.Here's the full part.cfg:PART{name = LazTekDragonV2module = Partauthor = Lazarus Luanscale = 1.0rescaleFactor = .85mesh = model.munode_stack_top = 0.0, 2.05, 0.0, 0.0, 1.0, 0.0node_stack_dock = 0.0, 1.8, 0.0, 0.0, 1.0, 0.0, 0node_stack_bottom = 0.0, -0.8, 0.0, 0.0, -1.0, 0.0TechRequired = metaMaterialsentryCost = 24000cost = 1200category = Podssubcategory = 0title = SpaceX Dragon V2 Capsulemanufacturer = LazTekdescription = A remarkable feat of engineering, the seven-person 2.5 meter reusable Dragon 2 capsule is equipped with six-direction Draco RCS thrusters, interior and exterior lighting, retractable landing gear and opening hatch. A second-generation PICA-X heatshield is built in for atmospheric returns with enough monopropellant on board for fully-powered soft landings on virtually any planetary body.attachRules = 1,0,1,1,1mass = 4dragModelType = defaultmaximum_drag = 0.2minimum_drag = 0.1angularDrag = 2crashTolerance = 45maxTemp = 3400vesselType = ShipCrewCapacity = 7INTERNAL{ name = DragonV2Command}MODULE{ name = ModuleCommand minimumCrew = 0}RESOURCE{ name = ElectricCharge amount = 1000 maxAmount = 1000}MODULE{ name = ModuleSAS}MODULE{ name = ModuleReactionWheel PitchTorque = 10 YawTorque = 10 RollTorque = 10 RESOURCE { name = ElectricCharge rate = 0.8 }}MODULE{ name = ModuleRCS thrusterTransformName = RCSthruster thrusterPower = 1 resourceName = MonoPropellant atmosphereCurve { key = 0 290 key = 1 200 }}RESOURCE{ name = MonoPropellant amount = 1200 maxAmount = 2000}MODULE{ name = ModuleLandingLeg animationName = DragonGear wheelColliderName = wheelCollider suspensionTransformName = LowerLegs orientFootToGround = false landingFootName = Foot alignFootUp = false suspensionUpperLimit = 0.85 impactTolerance = 200 suspensionSpring = 5 suspensionDamper = 2}MODULE{ name = ModuleAnimateGeneric animationName = DragonV2Hatch startEventGUIName = Open Hatch endEventGUIName = Close Hatch}MODULE{ name = ModuleAnimateGeneric animationName = CabinLights startEventGUIName = Cabin Lights On endEventGUIName = Cabin Lights Off}MODULE{ name = ModuleAnimateGeneric animationName = BlueLights startEventGUIName = Blue Lights Off endEventGUIName = Blue Lights On}MODULE{ name = ModuleAnimateGeneric animationName = OuterLights startEventGUIName = Outer Lights On endEventGUIName = Outer Lights Off}MODULE{ name = ModuleAnimateGeneric animationName = DockingLight startEventGUIName = Docking Light On endEventGUIName = Docking Light Off}MODULE{ name = ModuleScienceExperiment experimentID = crewReport experimentActionName = Crew Report resetActionName = Discard Crew Report reviewActionName = Review Report useStaging = False useActionGroups = True hideUIwhenUnavailable = True rerunnable = True xmitDataScalar = 1.0}MODULE{ name = ModuleScienceContainer reviewActionName = Review Stored Data storeActionName = Store Experiments evaOnlyStorage = True storageRange = 7.0}MODULE{ name = FlagDecal textureQuadName = flagSurface}}MODULE { name = ModuleSPU IsRTCommandStation = true }MODULE { name = ModuleHeatShield direction = 0, -1, 0 // bottom of pod reflective = 0.05 // 5% of heat is ignored at correct angle ablative = AblativeShielding loss { // loss is based on the shockwave temperature (also based on density) key = 650 0 // start ablating at 650 degrees C key = 1000 64 // peak ablation at 1000 degrees C key = 3000 80 // max ablation at 3000 degrees C } dissipation { // dissipation is based on the part's current temperature key = 300 0 // begin ablating at 300 degrees C key = 500 360 // maximum dissipation at 500 degrees C } } RESOURCE { name = AblativeShielding amount = 250 maxAmount = 250 } Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NathanKell Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 You're missing a closing } at the end.Otherwise looks fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Kerman Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 (edited) Actually he's missing two closing braces, because I think he pasted at the end of the file past the original closing brace:} <-original Part closing brace?MODULE { name = ModuleSPU IsRTCommandStation = true }MODULE { name = ModuleHeatShield direction = 0, -1, 0 // bottom of pod reflective = 0.05 // 5% of heat is ignored at correct angle ablative = AblativeShielding loss { // loss is based on the shockwave temperature (also based on density) key = 650 0 // start ablating at 650 degrees C key = 1000 64 // peak ablation at 1000 degrees C key = 3000 80 // max ablation at 3000 degrees C } dissipation { // dissipation is based on the part's current temperature key = 300 0 // begin ablating at 300 degrees C key = 500 360 // maximum dissipation at 500 degrees C } } RESOURCE { name = AblativeShielding amount = 250 maxAmount = 250 } } <-missing Module closing brace} <-missing Part closing braceDerp, nevermind about the closing module brace, the nesting is all messed up and I thought the Resource was supposed to be inside the Module but I see that the last Module is in fact closed. Still, the original Part closing brace is an issue as wellwhy in the hell am I even bleeping bothering to debug code at 4:23 in the morning?? Edited June 12, 2014 by Gaiiden derp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocinante89 Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Hmmm I still cant get it to work for me. Oh well, screw it! Thanks for the help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NathanKell Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Gaiiden: wow, good catch!Rocinante89: yeah, you have to add stuff *inside* the PART{} block. Use this.PART{ name = LazTekDragonV2 module = Part author = Lazarus Luan scale = 1.0 rescaleFactor = .85 mesh = model.mu node_stack_top = 0.0, 2.05, 0.0, 0.0, 1.0, 0.0 node_stack_dock = 0.0, 1.8, 0.0, 0.0, 1.0, 0.0, 0 node_stack_bottom = 0.0, -0.8, 0.0, 0.0, -1.0, 0.0 TechRequired = metaMaterials entryCost = 24000 cost = 1200 category = Pods subcategory = 0 title = SpaceX Dragon V2 Capsule manufacturer = LazTek description = A remarkable feat of engineering, the seven-person 2.5 meter reusable Dragon 2 capsule is equipped with six-direction Draco RCS thrusters, interior and exterior lighting, retractable landing gear and opening hatch. A second-generation PICA-X heatshield is built in for atmospheric returns with enough monopropellant on board for fully-powered soft landings on virtually any planetary body. attachRules = 1,0,1,1,1 mass = 4 dragModelType = default maximum_drag = 0.2 minimum_drag = 0.1 angularDrag = 2 crashTolerance = 45 maxTemp = 3400 vesselType = Ship CrewCapacity = 7 INTERNAL { name = DragonV2Command } MODULE { name = ModuleCommand minimumCrew = 0 } RESOURCE { name = ElectricCharge amount = 1000 maxAmount = 1000 } MODULE { name = ModuleSAS } MODULE { name = ModuleReactionWheel PitchTorque = 10 YawTorque = 10 RollTorque = 10 RESOURCE { name = ElectricCharge rate = 0.8 } } MODULE { name = ModuleRCS thrusterTransformName = RCSthruster thrusterPower = 1 resourceName = MonoPropellant atmosphereCurve { key = 0 290 key = 1 200 } } RESOURCE { name = MonoPropellant amount = 1200 maxAmount = 2000 } MODULE { name = ModuleLandingLeg animationName = DragonGear wheelColliderName = wheelCollider suspensionTransformName = LowerLegs orientFootToGround = false landingFootName = Foot alignFootUp = false suspensionUpperLimit = 0.85 impactTolerance = 200 suspensionSpring = 5 suspensionDamper = 2 } MODULE { name = ModuleAnimateGeneric animationName = DragonV2Hatch startEventGUIName = Open Hatch endEventGUIName = Close Hatch } MODULE { name = ModuleAnimateGeneric animationName = CabinLights startEventGUIName = Cabin Lights On endEventGUIName = Cabin Lights Off } MODULE { name = ModuleAnimateGeneric animationName = BlueLights startEventGUIName = Blue Lights Off endEventGUIName = Blue Lights On } MODULE { name = ModuleAnimateGeneric animationName = OuterLights startEventGUIName = Outer Lights On endEventGUIName = Outer Lights Off } MODULE { name = ModuleAnimateGeneric animationName = DockingLight startEventGUIName = Docking Light On endEventGUIName = Docking Light Off } MODULE { name = ModuleScienceExperiment experimentID = crewReport experimentActionName = Crew Report resetActionName = Discard Crew Report reviewActionName = Review Report useStaging = False useActionGroups = True hideUIwhenUnavailable = True rerunnable = True xmitDataScalar = 1.0 } MODULE { name = ModuleScienceContainer reviewActionName = Review Stored Data storeActionName = Store Experiments evaOnlyStorage = True storageRange = 7.0 } MODULE { name = FlagDecal textureQuadName = flagSurface } MODULE { name = ModuleSPU IsRTCommandStation = true } MODULE { name = ModuleHeatShield direction = 0, -1, 0 // bottom of pod reflective = 0.05 // 5% of heat is ignored at correct angle ablative = AblativeShielding loss { // loss is based on the shockwave temperature (also based on density) key = 650 0 // start ablating at 650 degrees C key = 1000 64 // peak ablation at 1000 degrees C key = 3000 80 // max ablation at 3000 degrees C } dissipation { // dissipation is based on the part's current temperature key = 300 0 // begin ablating at 300 degrees C key = 500 360 // maximum dissipation at 500 degrees C } } RESOURCE { name = AblativeShielding amount = 250 maxAmount = 250 }} Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocinante89 Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Ah, so what you are saying was that I added the module after the PART block was closed off? I'm an idiot. Cheers for all the help guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR4Y Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 How do I edit DRC settings? I don't have the Toolbar UI button. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NathanKell Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 As the OP and readme state, in flight mode hold down ALT+D+R and the window will appear. Not sure where you heard anything about a Toolbar button; DRE doesn't have one, and never has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furious1964 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 As soon as I install this mod and play the game, the game crashes on start.Unity Player [version: Unity 4.3.3f1_c8ca9b6b9936]KSP.exe caused an Access Violation (0xc0000005) in module KSP.exe at 0023:005da114.Error occurred at 2014-06-15_205454.E:\Games\Valve\Steam\SteamApps\common\Kerbal Space Program\KSP.exe, run by Mr. Furious.50% memory in use.0 MB physical memory [0 MB free].0 MB paging file [0 MB free].0 MB user address space [425 MB free].Read from location 00007ffc caused an access violation.Context:EDI: 0x00efee00 ESI: 0x00007ffc EAX: 0x00008000EBX: 0x00efee8c ECX: 0x00000001 EDX: 0x00000000EIP: 0x005da114 EBP: 0x00efedd0 SegCs: 0x00000023EFlags: 0x00010297 ESP: 0x00efedc8 SegSs: 0x0000002bBytes at CS:EIP:8b 44 8e fc 89 44 8f fc 8d 04 8d 00 00 00 00 03 Stack:0x00efedc8: 00000004 00007ffc 00efee08 002ac7c9 ..............*.0x00efedd8: 00efee00 00007ffc 00000004 00002000 ............. ..0x00efede8: 00efee8c 00001000 00007ffc 00002000 ............. ..0x00efedf8: 00001000 00001000 00efee64 00000000 ........d.......0x00efee08: 00efee64 002bb4e7 00efee8c 00002000 d.....+...... ..0x00efee18: 00001000 033098e0 00002000 00000000 ......0.. ......0x00efee28: 00000004 00002000 00001000 00008000 ..... ..........0x00efee38: e0940040 0aaaaaac 00000002 00002000 @............ ..0x00efee48: 00000000 033098e0 00002000 00001000 ......0.. ......0x00efee58: 00001000 00000000 00000000 00efeecc ................0x00efee68: 002bc7ea 00efee8c 00000000 00000000 ..+.............0x00efee78: 00000000 1be6dcc0 a4ec0de0 f9ceb35f ............_...0x00efee88: 00efeed8 00000004 00002000 00001000 ......... ......0x00efee98: 00008000 00000000 1be6dcc0 00000004 ................0x00efeea8: 00002000 00000001 00001000 00000001 . ..............0x00efeeb8: 033098e0 00000000 0000000e 00001000 ..0.............0x00efeec8: 0107e557 00efeed8 0045f480 00000001 W.........E.....0x00efeed8: 00efef18 0437a51c 1c4426c0 00000001 ......7..&D.....0x00efeee8: 0437a4c8 00000000 00efef18 00eff534 ..7.........4...0x00efeef8: 03e60f68 1be6dcc0 0437a501 a4ec0de0 h.........7.....0x00efef08: 00000000 1be6dcc0 00efef18 0437a4f4 ..............7.0x00efef18: 00efef38 0437a4de 1c4426c0 00000001 8.....7..&D.....0x00efef28: 00efef2c 00efefa8 1be6dcc0 00000000 ,...............0x00efef38: 00efefa8 108322bb 1c4426c0 00000001 ....."...&D.....0x00efef48: 00000000 00000000 108320d0 10831cae ......... ......0x00efef58: 108320d0 00000000 00eff535 03e60f68 . ......5...h...0x00efef68: 1b6fcdf0 00000000 00ec0de0 00000000 ..o.............0x00efef78: 1c4426c0 00eff048 10831cae 3f800000 .&D.H..........?0x00efef88: 3f800000 3f800000 3f77f7f8 a4ec0de0 ...?...?..w?....0x00efef98: 00efef9c 00eff048 1be6dcc0 00000000 ....H...........0x00efefa8: 00eff048 10831cae a4ec0de0 ad462800 H............(F.0x00efefb8: 00000002 ad462820 00000003 01010000 .... 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loppnessmonsta Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 (edited) holy crap, would you please put some code or spoiler tags on that so your post isn't so huge?also, I'd like to make procedural fairings work as heat shields, but I'm not really sure how to do that, beyond just "make a modulemanager cfg to add the deadly re-entry module to the part." I'm sure it's more complicated than that, though. Any suggestions? Seems like it's probably something someone's already done. Edited June 17, 2014 by loppnessmonsta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Empiro Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 I was wondering if anyone was having issues with the heat shield itself burning up? In my game, I was trying to get a probe into Jool's atmosphere, and not one but two 1.25m heat shields quickly overheated and exploded, even though the ablative shield resource was still at close to full (it was depleting very slowly). The science module underneath took much longer to burn up than the heat shields. I'm 100% certain I have the heat shields installed the right way (went into VAB to check, and confirmed the rounded side was facing the direction of travel). The heat shields seem to have worked in the past as I was returning to Kerbin, though of course there I was not travelling at 9km/s.I do use FAR if that makes a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taniwha Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 9km/s implies a 9000 Kelvin shock wave. Ablative shielding alone won't help you. You need to choose a less aggressive aerobraking path (reducing the density of the atmosphere helps). I've aerocaptured at Jool with no shields, though I had a very high apoapsis at the end of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Empiro Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Ah okay, thanks for the advice. I was trying to get a probe into a sub-orbital trajectory, so I figured that with 2 heat shields I ought to just dive right in. I still find it a bit surprising how quickly the heat shield overheated and exploded though -- at around 100km. The Science Jr module underneath it lasted MUCH longer, and actually got into about 80km or so before exploding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkenev Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Hey so I was hoping to add ablative heat shielding to the bottom of Kosmos's VA Command Module and Novapunch2's Freyja CSV Command Capsule, Odin OTV Command Capsule (Black and white) and also the Odin Heatshield.How would I go around in doing this? Sorry if this has already been answered... I have looked for a while and can't find anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstar Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 (edited) Is this stand alone or do I need DRE or DRE 2 with it?Never mind I got it running seen the same file structure and parts so just installed this. Edited June 17, 2014 by Woodstar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loppnessmonsta Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Hey so I was hoping to add ablative heat shielding to the bottom of Kosmos's VA Command Module and Novapunch2's Freyja CSV Command Capsule, Odin OTV Command Capsule (Black and white) and also the Odin Heatshield.How would I go around in doing this? Sorry if this has already been answered... I have looked for a while and can't find anything.While searching for an answer for my own question (about how to add heatshielding to procedural fairings) I found this cfg for one of the FASA pods:@PART[FASAMercuryPod]{@maxTemp = 1700MODULE{ // this one is custom, and is a little thicker than most heat shields. name = ModuleHeatShield direction = 0, -1, 0 // bottom of pod reflective = 0.05 // 5% of heat is ignored at correct angle ablative = AblativeShielding loss { // loss is based on the shockwave temperature (also based on density) key = 650 0 // start ablating at 650 degrees C key = 1000 64 // peak ablation at 1000 degrees C key = 3000 80 // max ablation at 3000 degrees C } dissipation { // dissipation is based on the part's current temperature key = 300 0 // begin ablating at 300 degrees C key = 500 180 // maximum dissipation at 500 degrees C }}RESOURCE{ name = AblativeShielding amount = 250 maxAmount = 250}}You'll obviously need to change the part name, and you might need to tweak some of the values, but that should give you an idea of the general formatting. For value tweaking, I suggest copying the values on the existing heatshields. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marce Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 While searching for an answer for my own question (about how to add heatshielding to procedural fairings) /snipHave you figured that out already? I'd like that but am too lazy to look at it myself atm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starwaster Posted June 17, 2014 Author Share Posted June 17, 2014 While searching for an answer for my own question (about how to add heatshielding to procedural fairings) I found this cfg for one of the FASA pods:You'll obviously need to change the part name, and you might need to tweak some of the values, but that should give you an idea of the general formatting. For value tweaking, I suggest copying the values on the existing heatshields.Have you figured that out already? I'd like that but am too lazy to look at it myself atm It's no different than adding heat shielding to any other part, however DREC's code has a hard time telling if fairings protect the things inside them. (it fails at certain angles; I suspect a problem with the PF colliders)If you have FAR installed that will help because DREC will detect that and ask FAR if an item is protected by a fairing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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