rottielover Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Speculation has it that there's some delay with the ARM pack. Several of the YouTube videos originally stated things like "out by the time this video is released" or "out now", etc. These were either later changed or comments out on them to say "soon". Also as clarification there were "under the hood" changes to the core game with .23.5 , so no it's not strictly a mod pack. So I recommend patience, whatever's going on with .23.5 I'm sure will be resolved "soon" and then my personal speculation is a shortened cycle for .24, meaning a couple months after .23.5 does arrive. Keep in mind that this is all speculation by myself and many others, and holds no basis in any reality we know of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cantab Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 I wonder if it can be done with two claws back to back with no intervening part. If you can attach a claw to a ship by the business end in the VAB, similar to predocked ports, I think it might be possible. Build a ship with a double ended claw attached to it, attach it to the asteroid and unclamp the claw attached to the ship. Switch to another ship already clawed to the asteroid, use that one to maneuver the asteroid with the claw into contact with another asteroid and clamp it.Even if the claw can't be attached in the VAB, it's still possible. Build a ship that's just two claws stuck together, and pick it up off the launchpad or runway with a rover/skycrane/whatever. Grab the other claw onto your launch vehicle and you're ready to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillHop Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 T-minus 10..9..8..... http://steamdb.info/search/?a=app&q=220200-snip-(Not a prediction, a report of a public fact about an uploaded update to this game. That's what happens when you upload new material to steam.)Can you clarify? I'm not quite sure what this means Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurybaric Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Squarters (Squad Headquarters)I like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Destroyer Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 I hope the claw can be opened in the VAB. I need that functionality!Also, damn you 0.23.5, I just had another dream: Rowdster, in the daily kerbal section, had posted a "Russian mafia" style post. No news or media, just his post- go get it!In-game, There were new, long, MK1 pods, on with Gemini landing legs. Scott manley said you could design your own EVA suit. KSP also installed a bunch of new dlls....I wake up for real. Check KSP.. Hop- nevermind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r4pt0r Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 i just want to avoid starting a new career save, only to start another one less than a month later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasuha Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 (edited) They mentioned quite a lot of bugfixes to make the asteroid mission not just possible but at least somewhat comfortable. Among others they fixed some orbital mechanics bugs and improved maneuver nodes. Added discovery mechanism for asteroids. Added asteroid science.HarvesteR promised the changelog will be interesting to read. Edited March 28, 2014 by Kasuha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellojoe Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 I am guessing that, from a distribution perspective, the asteroid pack is effectively a mod. It doesn't require a lot of code to be changed.Where .24 on the other hand, is a complete update of the KSP program.Guessing, mind you. I have no clue what goes on at Squarters (Squad Headquarters)Mostly this was the intention, however, in testing the ARM "mod pack" it was discovered that many underhood changes needed to be made to accomodate. This has pushed the ARM pack later and later, and effectively closer and closer to 0.24.Things like fixing some patched conics stuff.Things like allowing time warp while in the tracking station.Things like larger parts and stronger joints.These things were going to be in development down the road, probably for 0.24 or possibly later. But the challenges of the Asteroid pack sort of required getting those solutions up and working now, which required a lot of new code. While the 0.23.5 is just technically an add-on mod pack, it will include many of the things that the next patch was planning on including. They are now closer in time-frame as well as code.I'm sure there are still some things in 0.24 that don't need to be included with the ARM pack but need to be implemented before too long. Things like currency and contracts and other career oriented under-the-hood code needs to be implemented and perfected. But those bits are not essential to the asteroid redirect, and therefore can wait. And I'm sure there will be some things in 0.24 that we don't know about yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superfluous J Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 T-minus 10..9..8..... http://steamdb.info/search/?a=app&q=220200http://i.imgur.com/SS63UfE.png(Not prediction or speculation, a report of a public fact about an uploaded update to this software. That's what happens when you upload new material to steam.)I don't think this means much. It could just be one of the private updates for the testing group. Steam has that functionality to only send updates to certain people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyMowat Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 T-minus 10..9..8..... http://steamdb.info/search/?a=app&q=220200http://i.imgur.com/SS63UfE.png(Not prediction or speculation, a report of a public fact about an uploaded update to this software. That's what happens when you upload new material to steam.)Looks like they just seeded another experimental build, that's all. I guess I get to sleep this weekend, after all (Or is that a good thing? I'm not sure)Changed Depots220202/encryptedmanifests/experimentals/encrypted_gid: * hidden *220202/maxsize: 1614433462 › 1613238846branches/experimentals/buildid: 222167 › 222176 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Iron Crown Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Even if the claw can't be attached in the VAB, it's still possible. Build a ship that's just two claws stuck together, and pick it up off the launchpad or runway with a rover/skycrane/whatever. Grab the other claw onto your launch vehicle and you're ready to go.That did not occur to me, good thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketPilot573 Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Its happening!!!!!!Steam says: Just Updated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Destroyer Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Eh, I don't belive it. My steam isn't updating, and it can sometimes say "just updated" long after an update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketPilot573 Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 I remember that this happened a few hours before .21 was released.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlexGunship Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 [refresh refresh refresh refresh] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlamoVampire Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Its happening!!!!!!http://i.imgur.com/wBzbhX3.png?1Steam says: Just UpdatedHuh? You sure? I dont see any mention on the webpage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astropapi1 Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Nope. Hasn't happened yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlexGunship Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillHop Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Confirmation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketPilot573 Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 ]WHAT? My account still says .23.0! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whaaw Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 no his picture is fakeyou can see the pixels where he editet to 23.5 worst photoshop ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Destroyer Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Ugh I hope people in here don't start posting fake messages......Post true images Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aragosnat Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Something that hasn't been discussed is the prevalence of asteroids in other orbits. Scott Manley mentioned that the tracking station will show asteroids that enter Kerbin's SOI. What about if you switch to Duna? Do you see asteroids that enter Duna's SOI? Or is Kerbin is a particularly privilaged part of space?Main reason from my point of view as I wish I could find the vid that says it. Is that Kerbin as a bunch of Kerbals using telescopes to hunt for them. And sense Duna has no colony of Kerbals it will not have any Kerbals looking through telescopes. Does not mean they will not add such a feature later on. =^.^= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneshot Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 My wife is now mocking me for spamming "Refresh" every 30 seconds (for the past 24 hours...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Destroyer Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 I thought hmm... maybe it will be released at noon!*spams F5*12:0112:0212:0312:0412:0512:0612:0712:08Not out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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