Universal Storage 1.4.0.0 (For KSP 1.4.x) 13th March 2018

[Paul Kingtiger]

8 hours ago, RocketPCGaming said:

@Paul Kingtiger These are truly amazing pieces of art - that's usable! UniStor 2.0 is going into my "must have" mod list!

The Models and Animations are all @Daishi 's hard work.  Release isn't too far off now, we should have the full version up on Spacedock soon(TM)

[Rocketology]

2 hours ago, Paul Kingtiger said:

The Models and Animations are all @Daishi 's hard work.  Release isn't too far off now, we should have the full version up on Spacedock soon(TM)

@Daishi Well done, Sir! 

The sheer talent, effort and passion that you mod authors put into your work never ceases to awe, and inspire!

[Daishi]

[gamerscircle]

I have a question, if I have been using UNI Storage I  and want to start using UNI Storage II , are the mods interchangeable?  Meaning, if I add the new one and remove the old one.. will the crafts with the UNI Storage I parts get deleted?

[Brigadier]

13 minutes ago, gamerscircle said:

I have a question, if I have been using UNI Storage I  and want to start using UNI Storage II , are the mods interchangeable?  Meaning, if I add the new one and remove the old one.. will the crafts with the UNI Storage I parts get deleted?

I can't address the fundamental question you've asked but if you're also using DMagic's Orbital Science be advised that it's not yet compatible with this update.

[DMagic]

The two versions of US are completely separate. All of the parts are different and the installation folder is different. So you can install both at the same time and there shouldn't be problems. 

But if you install US 2 and delete US 1 then all of your existing vessels that use parts from that will be deleted.

[Paul Kingtiger]

3 hours ago, gamerscircle said:

I have a question, if I have been using UNI Storage I  and want to start using UNI Storage II , are the mods interchangeable?  Meaning, if I add the new one and remove the old one.. will the crafts with the UNI Storage I parts get deleted?

Hey Andy, I missed the live stream but just watched you ask this question on the VOD!
The two mods are separate and you should be able to run both side by side.  For new craft I recommend using the new parts, but any existing craft using Universal Storage will carry on working.  Once you've finished with those craft you can delete the mod and just carry on with Universal Storage 2.

[Paul Kingtiger]

Universal Storage 2 is released!

For more information check the forum thread

 

[Jesusthebird]

On 8/7/2018 at 9:46 PM, Paul Kingtiger said:

Hey Andy, I missed the live stream but just watched you ask this question on the VOD!
The two mods are separate and you should be able to run both side by side.  For new craft I recommend using the new parts, but any existing craft using Universal Storage will carry on working.  Once you've finished with those craft you can delete the mod and just carry on with Universal Storage 2.

 

one thing id like to point out, ckan considers UniversalStorage2 as the same mod. After installing this mod manually from spacedock, ckan marked UniversalStorage as "AD". Not a big deal if your intention is to phase it out or dont install mods with ckan, or dont care lol. Just wanted to let ya know.

[Paul Kingtiger]

4 hours ago, Jesusthebird said:

 

one thing id like to point out, ckan considers UniversalStorage2 as the same mod. After installing this mod manually from spacedock, ckan marked UniversalStorage as "AD". Not a big deal if your intention is to phase it out or dont install mods with ckan, or dont care lol. Just wanted to let ya know.

Universal Storage and Universal Storage 2 as the same mod?  Everything has different names so I'm not sure how that could happen, but I'm not a CKAN expert.  I'll look at creating a proper file so it knows what required mods to install.

[Supercheese]

It's probably because both Universal Storage1 & 2 use the same name for their plugin -- UniversalStorage.dll

Edited August 12, 2018 by Supercheese

[ble210]

Thank you for the quick reply.

Potentially dumb question- if I've already installed Community Resource Pack via CKAN, do I need to copy over the Community Resource File from the US2 download into my Game Data folder (and replace the existing files)?  Or would it be ok to move over the UniversalStorage2 folder?  (Sorry for the question- I'm not too familiar with what the Community Resource Pack actually does).

Thank you for all your work!  Universal Storage 1 remains one of the best mods ever created for KSP, and I am excited for 2!

[Loren V]

I am using Universal Storage 2 and having an issue that i didn't with version 1.  I can only attach one module to a core.  what am i doing wrong?

 

 

[Brigadier]

1 hour ago, Loren V said:

I am using Universal Storage 2 and having an issue that i didn't with version 1.  I can only attach one module to a core.  what am i doing wrong?

Welcome to the forums.

If I'm understanding you correctly, you have US II core (quad, hex, octo) and are trying to add a US II wedge part to it.  I'm not trying to be condescending, but have you rotated the 2nd and subsequent parts appropriately?

Which version of KSP and this mod are you using?

A picture of your problem might help?  (it would certainly help me )

[Sir Mortimer]

FYI orbital science parts will soon work again.

https://github.com/DMagic1/Orbital-Science/releases

Edited September 5, 2018 by Sir Morimer
Removed link at request by DMagic

[chilihead3712]

Hello everyone,

even though I am an advanced KSP player I am new to this forum and to US. I have stumbled upon US a few weeks ago and I was amazed by the look of this mod. I have decided to go for US II and it is now an integral part of many of my vessels.

Unfortunately, I came across a little issue that limits the usefulness of many US II parts; I.e. that I am not able to transfer fuel from/to/between US II tanks. Is this a known Issue or am I the only one having this problem? I am using KSP 1.4.5.2243 + Making History 1.4.0 + US II 1.5.1.7 + other mods, if that is any help.

Hopefully somebody knows more about this than I do and can help me with this. I am thankful for any ideas.

 

 

 

[Frostiken]

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Edited December 30, 2018 by Frostiken

[zer0Kerbal]

Am creating a patch for ODFC (On Demand Fuel Cells) for Universal Storage's has one fuel cell (alkaline). it produces 16 EC/s max.

Something is not quite adding up with the consumption so am be asking @Paul Kingtiger about the discrepancies between US and US2 fuel cell consumption and production numbers.

I want to make sure the ODFC patch stays true to the numbers for the original, am just concerned that the original Universal Storage Alkaline Fuel Cell's numbers are completely and significantly better than Universal Storage II's version of the same item. Which set of numbers for the US1 patch should I use?

Next question - how about consumption per EC for say LFO? LF+IA (intake Air)? Monopropellent? Any thoughts? I have already computed those for US2 based upon existing stock references, but am interested in hearing what you think, and would use if provided specifications provided if you so choose.

thank you.

 

 

Alkaline Fuel Cell (Universal Storage)	Alkaline Fuel Cell (Universal Storage II)	PEM Fuel Cell (Universal Storage II
Resources (Maximum) Hydrogen: 1400 Oxygen: 700 Water: 0 (2)
Input H2: 0.064736 O2: 0.032368	Input Hydrogen: 0.853076042323157 Oxygen: 0.429248283745306	Input Hydrogen: 0.333647518775279 Oxygen: 0.167883773198164
Output Electric Charge: 16 H2O: 0.0000520721	Output Electric Charge: 5 Water: 0.000690070272156048	Output Electric Charge: 1.6 Water: 0.000269894150887699

 

 

 

[Paul Kingtiger]

On 8/27/2019 at 11:53 PM, zer0Kerbal said:

Am creating a patch for ODFC (On Demand Fuel Cells) for Universal Storage's has one fuel cell (alkaline). it produces 16 EC/s max.

Something is not quite adding up with the consumption so am be asking @Paul Kingtiger about the discrepancies between US and US2 fuel cell consumption and production numbers.

I want to make sure the ODFC patch stays true to the numbers for the original, am just concerned that the original Universal Storage Alkaline Fuel Cell's numbers are completely and significantly better than Universal Storage II's version of the same item. Which set of numbers for the US1 patch should I use?

Next question - how about consumption per EC for say LFO? LF+IA (intake Air)? Monopropellent? Any thoughts? I have already computed those for US2 based upon existing stock references, but am interested in hearing what you think, and would use if provided specifications provided if you so choose.

thank you.

 

 

Alkaline Fuel Cell (Universal Storage)	Alkaline Fuel Cell (Universal Storage II)	PEM Fuel Cell (Universal Storage II
Resources (Maximum) Hydrogen: 1400 Oxygen: 700 Water: 0 (2)
Input H2: 0.064736 O2: 0.032368	Input Hydrogen: 0.853076042323157 Oxygen: 0.429248283745306	Input Hydrogen: 0.333647518775279 Oxygen: 0.167883773198164
Output Electric Charge: 16 H2O: 0.0000520721	Output Electric Charge: 5 Water: 0.000690070272156048	Output Electric Charge: 1.6 Water: 0.000269894150887699

 

 

 

Balancing fuel cells is tricky, there are two approaches.

 

In universal storage the fuel cells were created before the stock fuel cells were added to the game, so we decided to balance them based on real life systems.  That's easy on the inputs because community resource pack already defined what a unit of Oxygen and Hydrogen was.  But there's never been an official definition of what 1 unit of EC is.  We came up with some figures based on the generating power of stock solar panels vs real world solar panels and adjusted for size. 
So what we had were parts balanced against the laws of physics, but not against stock KSP (To me it feels like KSP parts were balanced for gameplay at an early stage in development and should have been rebalanced later on, with all units define as real world amounts, making it easier for modders and more useful as an educational tool).
End result of that is very powerful systems compared to stock KSP parts.

When Universal Storage 2 was in development we went for a different approach, balancing against the stock parts so that things would be more balanced but less realistic.  Which is why there is a big discrepancy between the two, but hopefully a better play experience.

 

Fingers crossed KSP 2 will use real world units for everything, litres of liquid fuel, not unknown 'units'.  Amp hours for batteries, rather than EC.

[Xtra]

Hello All,

I'm currently reinstalling all my mods since updating to 1.12.4 (I was reluctant to update as you can see).  

I was installing (thru CKAN) @DMagic DMagic Orbital Science and found that it needed Universal Storage 1.4 to be installed.  So I installed Uni 1.4 and Uni II Finalized v4.0.0.7.   Launching the Game from CKAN, I immediately get the error from KSP that Uni 1.4 is not supported and the following errors in my log:

Line    63: [ERR 10:46:47.774] ADDON BINDER: Cannot resolve assembly: USIToolsUI, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null
    Line    65: [ERR 10:46:47.774] ADDON BINDER: Cannot resolve assembly: USIToolsUI, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null
    Line    67: [ERR 10:46:47.780] ADDON BINDER: Cannot resolve assembly: KonstructionUI, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null
    Line    69: [ERR 10:46:47.780] ADDON BINDER: Cannot resolve assembly: KonstructionUI, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null
    Line    71: [ERR 10:46:47.783] ADDON BINDER: Cannot resolve assembly: WOLFUI, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null
    Line    73: [ERR 10:46:47.783] ADDON BINDER: Cannot resolve assembly: WOLFUI, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null
    Line   166: [ERR 10:46:48.792] ADDON BINDER: Cannot resolve assembly: MiniAVC.XmlSerializers, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null
    Line   168: [ERR 10:46:48.792] ADDON BINDER: Cannot resolve assembly: MiniAVC.XmlSerializers, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null
    Line   170: [ERR 10:46:48.793] ADDON BINDER: Cannot resolve assembly: MiniAVC.XmlSerializers
    Line   332: [ERR 10:46:49.637] DDS: DXT3(1024x1024, MipMap=False) - DXT3 format is NOT supported. Use DXT5
    Line  2406: [ERR 10:47:00.557] DDS: DXT3(256x256, MipMap=True) - DXT3 format is NOT supported. Use DXT5
    Line  2410: [ERR 10:47:00.557] DDS: DXT3(256x256, MipMap=True) - DXT3 format is NOT supported. Use DXT5
    Line  2414: [ERR 10:47:00.558] DDS: DXT3(256x256, MipMap=True) - DXT3 format is NOT supported. Use DXT5
    Line  3332: [ERR 10:47:03.219] Texture 'UniversalStorage/Parts/US_2R320_Radial_Food/RadialFood' not found!
    Line  3335: [ERR 10:47:03.222] Texture 'UniversalStorage/Parts/US_2R340_Radial_Oxygen/RadialOxygen' not found!
    Line  3338: [ERR 10:47:03.224] Texture 'UniversalStorage/Parts/US_2R360_Radial_Water/RadialWater' not found!
    Line  9038: [ERR 10:47:09.469] ExperienceSystemConfig: Experience trait 'Engineer' already exists, and trying to add a duplicate Effect of 'FundsBoost'
    Line  9040: [ERR 10:47:09.469] ExperienceSystemConfig: Experience trait 'Engineer' already exists, and trying to add a duplicate Effect of 'GeologySkill'
    Line  9043: [ERR 10:47:09.469] ExperienceSystemConfig: Experience trait 'Scientist' already exists, and trying to add a duplicate Effect of 'ScienceBoost'
    Line  9045: [ERR 10:47:09.469] ExperienceSystemConfig: Experience trait 'Scientist' already exists, and trying to add a duplicate Effect of 'BotanySkill'
    Line  9047: [ERR 10:47:09.469] ExperienceSystemConfig: Experience trait 'Scientist' already exists, and trying to add a duplicate Effect of 'AgronomySkill'
    Line  9049: [ERR 10:47:09.469] ExperienceSystemConfig: Experience trait 'Scientist' already exists, and trying to add a duplicate Effect of 'MedicalSkill'
    Line  9864: [ERR 10:47:14.918] Cannot find a PartModule of typename 'TweakScale'
    Line  9867: [ERR 10:47:14.924] Cannot find a PartModule of typename 'TweakScale'
    Line  9870: [ERR 10:47:14.930] Cannot find a PartModule of typename 'TweakScale'
    Line  9873: [ERR 10:47:14.936] Cannot find a PartModule of typename 'TweakScale'
    Line  9876: [ERR 10:47:14.942] Cannot find a PartModule of typename 'TweakScale'
    Line  9879: [ERR 10:47:14.948] Cannot find a PartModule of typename 'TweakScale'
    Line  9882: [ERR 10:47:14.955] Cannot find a PartModule of typename 'TweakScale'
    Line  9885: [ERR 10:47:14.966] Cannot find a PartModule of typename 'TweakScale'
    Line  9888: [ERR 10:47:14.978] Cannot find a PartModule of typename 'TweakScale'
    Line  9891: [ERR 10:47:14.993] Cannot find a PartModule of typename 'TweakScale'
    Line  9895: [ERR 10:47:15.000] Cannot find a PartModule of typename 'TweakScale'
    Line  9898: [ERR 10:47:15.007] Cannot find a PartModule of typename 'TweakScale'
    Line  9901: [ERR 10:47:15.014] Cannot find a PartModule of typename 'TweakScale'
    Line  9904: [ERR 10:47:15.020] Cannot find a PartModule of typename 'TweakScale'
    Line  9907: [ERR 10:47:15.027] Cannot find a PartModule of typename 'TweakScale'
    Line  9910: [ERR 10:47:15.032] Cannot find a PartModule of typename 'TweakScale'
    Line  9913: [ERR 10:47:15.038] Cannot find a PartModule of typename 'TweakScale'
    Line  9938: [ERR 10:47:15.205] Cannot find fx group of that name for decoupler
    Line  9940: [ERR 10:47:15.213] Cannot find fx group of that name for decoupler
    Line  9944: [ERR 10:47:15.220] Cannot find fx group of that name for decoupler
    Line  9946: [ERR 10:47:15.225] Cannot find fx group of that name for decoupler
    Line 10865: [ERR 10:47:36.552] [Agent]: Is missing its 'title' value

I haven't loaded/installed TweakScale as of yet and it didn't show as a dependency so that's my next install.  Same with MiniAVC.

In checking the directories for Uni Stor 1.4 - I see the DDS files for RadialFood, Water, and Oxygen in each of the correct folders.  Could it be that because KSP said it wasn't supported that it's not looking in those folders for these Textures?   

Anyone know what I can do to fix this?

 

UPDATE:  After installing TweakScale Everything (Redistribute and KSP Recall dependency) and launching - KSP gives and Unknown status for Tweakscale not working with 1.12.4.   

BUT, it did of course fix the TweakScale errors above but added others I'm sure are due to KSP Recall

Edited November 15, 2022 by Xtra

[damerell]

If you are using the new launcher, you probably want to look up how to get rid of it - widely discussed in mod threads. It breaks all kinds of things.