king of nowhere 415 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Lately, I keep forgetting to deploy the solar panels once i am in orbit. Most fligths were crewed, so no big deal - though it's always a bit confusing at first when i try to point towards a manuever and the ship does not comply. but in the last three days, i twice had to reload because i lost contact with a probe after forgetting to deploy solar panels Now, as penance, I will write "I must not forget to deploy solar panels" 100 times Spoiler I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels - I must not forget to deploy solar panels Spoiler Of course, with copy-paste, it's not a serious penance Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mikenike 446 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 On 11/10/2020 at 9:10 PM, Superfluous J said: This is exactly the opposite of correct. No, if you have a top heavy craft, in the lower atmosphere and mid atmosphere, you have a chance to over rotate and not recover it because you COM is too high and aerodynamics will catch the front section and act as a pendulum. Your engines at that point are no longer facing the ground, they are now above a 90 degree angle, which only will help with the perdulum motion. Nothing at that point will save your craft, as undoubtably, your engines were running as you reached above horizontal in any direction. I say nothing becuase everything short of parachutes will save your craft, unless you quickload, or reset. And the amount of parachutes one would need for a large craft is expensive as it adds nearly useless weight, because you will almost never use them. So, you can be the exact opposite of correct here as well, as it is a case by case basis. I meant that his COM was near the top most section of his craft. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NutellaSandwich 19 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 I actually have never successfully landed on the mun. I have tried 7 times, 5 times I have gotten to the surface, and tipped over or used too much fuel. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mikenike 446 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 (edited) On 11/5/2020 at 11:38 PM, KSC Internal Affairs said: We would be among the richest of kerbals I think I'd be the richest. I design everything from the ground up, not from the top down. So I constantly am rearranging the stages. 3 minutes ago, NutellaSandwich said: I actually have never successfully landed on the mun. I have tried 7 times, 5 times I have gotten to the surface, and tipped over or used too much fuel. I mostly stay in LKO or below, but have gone to everywhere but Moho so far. Edited January 14 by Mikenike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SkyRender 1,276 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 (edited) 1 hour ago, NutellaSandwich said: I actually have never successfully landed on the mun. I have tried 7 times, 5 times I have gotten to the surface, and tipped over or used too much fuel. That's pretty normal for most players who haven't gotten the technique down pat, and believe it or not, even veteran players still run into one or both issues from time to time! The tipping over is because your rocket is too tall relative to its landing base. You either need a wider lander, a shorter lander, wider landing leg base, or a suitably overpowered reaction wheel. Also, try not to land on steep slopes; anything over 15 degrees is asking for trouble with most craft! As for the fuel issue, packing enough is essential (the generally accepted goal is a minimum of 640dV down and 640dV back up for a total of 1280dV for an orbit-to-surface-to-orbit round trip; you'll need another 300dV for a return to Kerbin in the same craft). So is technique: get the periapsis just below about 6KM over your target area, and focus on eliminating horizontal speed first! The closer you are to the surface when you begin your descent, the less extra fuel you need to get there. You'll get there. Even Scott Manley's first Mun landing attempts ended in catastrophe, and he's an astrophysicist. If the so many of us now can do better than he did back then, you can too! Edited January 14 by SkyRender Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NutellaSandwich 19 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Thanks for the help @SkyRender ! I'll make sure to keep that in mind when designing my next craft to the mun. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Corona688 1,095 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Your mun lander does not need to be large. Building small will save you so much delta-v. And throw away as much weight as you can before you leave. This thing throws away an empty fuel tank and the science jr to save even more delta-v. (too bad I forgot the heat shield. oh well) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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