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[1.12.X] Tantares - Stockalike Soyuz and MIR [26.0][18.12.2023][Soyuz Revamp Again]


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21 hours ago, Beale said:

Hello!

Thanks!

The Apollo CSM by itself is a very attractive project, very simple spacecraft to put together. 
I think the problem is it does not standalone well, and it would be difficult to release it without calls for associated rockets and the LEM.

(There is ASTP, but there is such a rich history with the Skylab, Apollo, I cannot give the spacecraft the proper credit it deservers, but someone can).

I think there should be a bit more American spacecraft to go with Gemini. Anyways, is Gemini a separate mod now?

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18 hours ago, Beale said:

I think the "only" things needed are the docking pressure adapter and the actual docking ports

Where this model sufficiently good enough?

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base diameter: 0.9375m

airlock diameter: 0.625m

diameter over all: 1.25m

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On 2016-06-23 at 7:53 PM, Beale said:

Whoops! I will remove them.

Unfortunately some mod support has fallen out of date over many versions. It is one of the parts of the mod that I have not had the ability to keep up to date (I have relied mostly on the very kind and appreciated work of others). 

There are updated Station Science Configs back on page 405 of this thread.  They are up to date and confirmed to work.  You never added them so I figured you were not interested.

Contents of the _Extra_StationScience.cfg file.  The other file I had on page 405, is no longer needed.

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@PART[Vega_Crew_D]:NEEDS[StationScience]
{
  MODULE
  {
    name = StationScienceModule
    moduleName = Station Science Facility
    requiredTrait = Scientist
    ConverterName = Research Lab
    StartActionName = Start Research
    StopActionName = Stop Research
    AutoShutdown = false
    GeneratesHeat = false
    UseSpecialistBonus = false

    INPUT_RESOURCE
    {
      ResourceName = ElectricCharge
      Ratio = 0.00138888888
    }

    OUTPUT_RESOURCE
    {
      ResourceName = Eurekas
      Ratio = 0.00027777777
    }
  }
}

 

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10 hours ago, Djolox said:

I think there should be a bit more American spacecraft to go with Gemini. Anyways, is Gemini a separate mod now?

Gemini is now availabile in Bluedog Design Bureau (or here, I guess).

So, really, there is no strong representation of America any longer in the mod (you might argue with the Cygnus and LEM-like fuel tank).

Will this change? Maybe not. The only things I would really like to do is maybe:

  • D2
  • Apollo CSM (Maybe just for my own entertainment of modelling)

But, as you can notice, Tantares is shrinking, rather than adding large new things.

7 hours ago, hraban said:

Where this model sufficiently good enough?

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9jO43F4.png

base diameter: 0.9375m

airlock diameter: 0.625m

diameter over all: 1.25m

Wow! 

That's more than sufficiently! :) 

1 hour ago, Leszek said:

There are updated Station Science Configs back on page 405 of this thread.  They are up to date and confirmed to work.  You never added them so I figured you were not interested.

Contents of the _Extra_StationScience.cfg file.  The other file I had on page 405, is no longer needed.

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@PART[Vega_Crew_D]:NEEDS[StationScience]
{
  MODULE
  {
    name = StationScienceModule
    moduleName = Station Science Facility
    requiredTrait = Scientist
    ConverterName = Research Lab
    StartActionName = Start Research
    StopActionName = Stop Research
    AutoShutdown = false
    GeneratesHeat = false
    UseSpecialistBonus = false

    INPUT_RESOURCE
    {
      ResourceName = ElectricCharge
      Ratio = 0.00138888888
    }

    OUTPUT_RESOURCE
    {
      ResourceName = Eurekas
      Ratio = 0.00027777777
    }
  }
}

 

Many thanks!
I think I must have forgotten about this, in either case it is included for next release.

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@Beale, given your current situation in regards to how much time you can devote to Tantares, I think you'd be best off just focusing on the updates/revamps, rather than trying to tackle an entire new part family.

With that said, Apollo D2 is tantalizing... (tantarizing?)

Edit: And my goal is still to try and have Apollo CSM in game by the end of summer. Saturn V and the LEM, no promises. But at least they are on their way now!

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10 minutes ago, CobaltWolf said:

And my goal is still to try and have Apollo CSM in game by the end of summer. Saturn V and the LEM, no promises. But at least they are on their way now!

Would it be stockalike? I've been looking for that for so long.

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1 hour ago, Beale said:

Gemini is now availabile in Bluedog Design Bureau (or here, I guess).

So, really, there is no strong representation of America any longer in the mod (you might argue with the Cygnus and LEM-like fuel tank).

Will this change? Maybe not. The only things I would really like to do is maybe:

  • D2
  • Apollo CSM (Maybe just for my own entertainment of modelling)

But, as you can notice, Tantares is shrinking, rather than adding large new things.

Yeah, anyways you keep doing an awesome job keeping this mod up! It is better and better with each part remodel and retexture. I don't think we even need more parts, as you've covered almost all significant Soviet and Russian spacecraft.

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1 hour ago, Yarik180703 said:

Make more IVAs

 

He will when he wants to. I don't mean to be rude, but he isn' obligated to make a single new IVA he will when he wants to, just be patient. :)

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1 hour ago, VenomousRequiem said:

Oh dear, you haven't seen Bluedog Design Bureau have you?

I've looked at it, but I'm usually not usually not a fan of huge parts packs, with the loving exception of Tantares. What I want to do is fly the Saturn V and N1-L3 in the same save file at the same time for an RP, but I can't have more than one big parts pack (Tantares) and a few enhancements (Realchute, Procedural Fairings). 

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1 minute ago, Joeybafoey said:

I've looked at it, but I'm usually not usually not a fan of huge parts packs, with the loving exception of Tantares. What I want to do is fly the Saturn V and N1-L3 in the same save file at the same time for an RP, but I can't have more than one big parts pack (Tantares) and a few enhancements (Realchute, Procedural Fairings). 

I think we'll be breaking it up into smaller packs soon, but I think this discussion would be better suited for the BDB thread. :wink:

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2 hours ago, Djolox said:

Yeah, anyways you keep doing an awesome job keeping this mod up! It is better and better with each part remodel and retexture. I don't think we even need more parts, as you've covered almost all significant Soviet and Russian spacecraft.

There are a lot of half-finished "misc" parts I would like to finish. 

One example is the Progress inflatable solar mirror:

Z25.jpe

I had a fun idea that this could be a "solar sail" type part, with some idea how to achieve this (not very accurately, but fun for gameplay purposes) in a plugin-less way.

4 hours ago, Yarik180703 said:

Make more IVAs

What IVA is most urgent do people think?

  • VA
  • FGB Passenger Compartment
  • FGB Docking Compartment
  • Salyut Main Block
  • Salyut Mid Block
  • Salyut Fore Block
  • Mir-2 Octagonal Truss Compartment
  • Vostok
  • Fuji Orbital Module

The VA is partially modelled, but untextured.

One more, am I reading this correct:

Kosmos-1443
TKS
March 2, 1983
Aug. 23, 1983 (unmanned capsule)
-
Docked to Salyut-7 from March 10 Aug. 14. Deorbited Sept. 19
Soyuz T-8
7K-ST
April 20, 1983
April 22, 1983
V. Titov, A. Serebrov, G. Strekalov
Failed to dock to Salyut-7.
Soyuz T-9
7K-ST
June 27, 1983
Nov. 23, 1983
V. Lyakhov, A. Alexandrov
Docked to Salyut-7 from June 28 to Nov. 23

Soyuz T-9 arrives late in June, TKS was at one point manned? (Not piloted, but inhabited on orbit).

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32 minutes ago, Beale said:

One more, am I reading this correct:

Kosmos-1443
TKS
March 2, 1983
Aug. 23, 1983 (unmanned capsule)
-
Docked to Salyut-7 from March 10 Aug. 14. Deorbited Sept. 19
Soyuz T-8
7K-ST
April 20, 1983
April 22, 1983
V. Titov, A. Serebrov, G. Strekalov
Failed to dock to Salyut-7.
Soyuz T-9
7K-ST
June 27, 1983
Nov. 23, 1983
V. Lyakhov, A. Alexandrov
Docked to Salyut-7 from June 28 to Nov. 23

Soyuz T-9 arrives late in June, TKS was at one point manned? (Not piloted, but inhabited on orbit).

It was just the FGB with some equipment in place of the VA capsule, the pressurized compartments were used IIRC.

EDIT: @Beale I'd be interested to hear what other parts you have half finished!

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1 hour ago, Beale said:

What IVA is most urgent do people think?

  • VA
  • FGB Passenger Compartment
  • FGB Docking Compartment
  • Salyut Main Block
  • Salyut Mid Block
  • Salyut Fore Block
  • Mir-2 Octagonal Truss Compartment
  • Vostok
  • Fuji Orbital Module

The VA is partially modelled, but untextured.

 

In order;
Vostok
VA
Other stuff.

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12 hours ago, Beale said:

What IVA is most urgent do people think?

  • VA
  • FGB Passenger Compartment
  • FGB Docking Compartment
  • Salyut Main Block
  • Salyut Mid Block
  • Salyut Fore Block
  • Mir-2 Octagonal Truss Compartment
  • Vostok
  • Fuji Orbital Module

The VA is partially modelled, but untextured.

 

I would say VA, Vostok, Fuji then station parts (starting from MIR)

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21 hours ago, Beale said:

There are a lot of half-finished "misc" parts I would like to finish. 

One example is the Progress inflatable solar mirror:

Z25.jpe

I had a fun idea that this could be a "solar sail" type part, with some idea how to achieve this (not very accurately, but fun for gameplay purposes) in a plugin-less way.

What IVA is most urgent do people think?

  • VA
  • FGB Passenger Compartment
  • FGB Docking Compartment
  • Salyut Main Block
  • Salyut Mid Block
  • Salyut Fore Block
  • Mir-2 Octagonal Truss Compartment
  • Vostok
  • Fuji Orbital Module

The VA is partially modelled, but untextured.

Personally I'd love to see an IVA for the Fuji orbital module! Really love your Fuji parts.

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4 hours ago, the_pazter said:

how does the back o the TKS look like?

Like this:
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3 hours ago, hraban said:

Hello Beale,

here a unity-snapshot of the DM2 docking port

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Wow! 

That was fast!

It looks (And looks to function) great!

 

 

 

 

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