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[1.12.X] Tantares - Stockalike Soyuz and MIR [26.0][18.12.2023][Soyuz Revamp Again]


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21 minutes ago, Soviet_Velir said:

Is there any craft without LV? There are so many mods on my weak laptop, I don't want to load it even more ...

Unfortunately I don't know which need it and which don't, but craft should not be hard to build, just search name of craft (e.g. "pirs") in VAB. Not many parts, easy to fit together.

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17 minutes ago, Beale said:

К сожалению, я не знаю, для чего это нужно, а для чего нет, но крафт не должен быть сложным, просто найдите название корабля (например, «пирс») в VAB . Не много деталей, их легко собрать.

I would do it myself, but I would like to know the order of the details

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Hello and good day.

I hope I am contributing with this bug report, I did go back and check the thread but this issue has been around a while and I don't seem to have any luck searching the thread with the search tool.

I have noticed that the Soyuz LV tends to want to torque around a bit.  After some experimenting, I have narrowed the issue down to the 4 radial fuel tanks.  Specifically the "A" variant tank, the "B" variant doesn't seem to have this issue.  Something is ever so slightly off with this tank.

Thanks for your time and thanks very much for the lovely, lovely mod.

Leszek

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16 hours ago, Soviet_Velir said:

I would do it myself, but I would like to know the order of the details

Don't know what I can recommend then, sorry,

15 hours ago, Minmus Taster said:

Beale why?

Why did you have to do this?

That engine...like...why?

What?

7 hours ago, Leszek said:

Hello and good day.

I hope I am contributing with this bug report, I did go back and check the thread but this issue has been around a while and I don't seem to have any luck searching the thread with the search tool.

I have noticed that the Soyuz LV tends to want to torque around a bit.  After some experimenting, I have narrowed the issue down to the 4 radial fuel tanks.  Specifically the "A" variant tank, the "B" variant doesn't seem to have this issue.  Something is ever so slightly off with this tank.

Thanks for your time and thanks very much for the lovely, lovely mod.

Leszek

interesting find, I will try to see what it may be.

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I've also encountered the roll issue with the R7 launch vehicle. Experimentation with various configurations of autostruts and rigid attachment (and lack thereof) doesn't seem to help with it. Additionally, I'm not using FAR or anything else which would affect the atmosphere, so strange atmospheric effects from another mod should be able to be ruled out.

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3 hours ago, septemberWaves said:

I've also encountered the roll issue with the R7 launch vehicle. Experimentation with various configurations of autostruts and rigid attachment (and lack thereof) doesn't seem to help with it. Additionally, I'm not using FAR or anything else which would affect the atmosphere, so strange atmospheric effects from another mod should be able to be ruled out.

I am not using FAR either.  Try the "B" radial tanks instead of the "A" Variant and see if you can reproduce my results.  Also if you have Kerbal Engineer you can see the torque change, with the "A" tanks I have 3.7 kNm which is enough to trow things off, the same rocket with the "B" tanks has 0.

P.S. I tried to launch an N1 and found there are no parts for it.  So I got the N1 Folder from TantaresLV 13 but this didn't work.  I got my downloads from Spacedock.

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It's been a very long time since I've used Fregat, but I remember it had an engine made specifically for it (so it doesn't look strange and the engine nodes give enough clearance). I can't find it now, only stage itself and additional fuel tank. Help?

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On 5/10/2021 at 5:28 PM, billbobjebkirk said:

To express my appreciation for this mod, here are a few scenes from the Soviet-style science save I've been playing since January:

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The 1MM Probes pushed the early boundaries of spaceflight, becoming the first visitors to the Mun and Minmus, though their visits were all too short.

 

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After many failed attempts, Kosmos 23 became the first successful flight of the USPR's space capsule. Many more tests were needed before it would be ready for crews, but a great destiny was already ahead.

 

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First Kosmonaut Yebedia salutes the recovery crews after toughing down at the conclusion of the first mission in the age of Kerbal Spaceflight.

 

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A Muna-K rocket sits on the pad, waiting for the moment just a day away when it will receive the pilot for the Mechta 2 mission, which will be the first to spend over a day in orbit.

 

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The Muna-K rockets for Mechta 3 and its following mission wait on the pads for their launches, scheduled a day apart. Unfortunately, with Mechta 3 aborted for medical reasons, it would be months before that second launch would ever take place.

 

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The 2MM probes would carry on the legacy of the Muna and Minmia missions before, allowing for the first time mapping and landing missions rather than simple flybys and impacts. But first, there were countless problems that had to be worked out, and many harsh failures to endure.

 

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Mechta 7 captures Mechta 6 during a lengthy close approach during the ambitious dual mission. Not only are the two vessels the first ever to perform an orbital rendezvous, they are also the first to carry more than one Kosmonaut, with Mechta 6 carrying two male and 7 two female. This mission was the last moment of true supremacy for the USPR's program.

 

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Kosmonaut Valentina becomes the first Kosmonaut to perform a spacewalk on her second flight in orbit. Unfortunately, the other goals of the Mechta 10 mission ended in failure, and the rivals had matched its goals months before.

 

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Liftoff for the ill-fated Mechta 12, which failed to reach orbit to rendezvous with Mechta 11 for an ambitious docking mission for the first crewed flight of the new 5K capsule. The near-disasters faced by both missions could not have come at a worse time for the program, as it saw itself eclipsed by an ascendant capitalist Mun program.

 

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Muna 11, the first successful Mun landing by the USPR, captures its descent shell and Kerbin in a single image.

 

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Engineer-Kosmonaut Kirvan of Mechta 14 performs an EVA to board Rassvet, the rudimentary space station and first in the world.

 

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Desperate to one-up the ambitious and successful capitalist Mun program, the heavy T1 rocket boosts Kosmonaut Bilybobski on his Skachok 1 mission to become the first Kerbal to step foot on Minmus. The mission barely edged out the rival Minmus program, though it came at quite the expense.

 

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Engineer-Kosmonaut Bilybobski's photo of the Minmia T-1 habitat, which would serve as his home for the next year as he awaited the completion of the deep-space vehicles capable of returning him home.

 

 

It's been several months IRL and over 2 years in-game since I posted my Soviet Style save, so I think it's time to give an update on what the Union of Socialist People's Republics has been up to!

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Engineer-Kosmonaut Bilybobski had come to Minmus knowing his year-long stay would be difficult, but he could hardly have overestimated the challenges that would lie ahead during the long wait.

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Engineer-Kosmonaut Karski performs an EVA using a new spacesuit on Rassvet 2 to deploy the mini-station's starboard solar panel.

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Minmia G-1, the first of many resupply missions intented to keep Bilybobski alive and healthy, arrives on the surface with a cargo of food, water, and tools.

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Following the docking of the Mechta 19 spacecraft to the Kosmos 105 booster, the Skachok 2 mission begins its journey to orbit the Mun for one week.

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The crew of Skachok 2 became the first Kosmonauts ever to witness the famous Kerbinrise from the Mun

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Skachok Base: Bilybobski's home away from home, and an unexpected center of scientific knowledge on a strange world. Joining him is a pressurized rover provided by the other side, a sign of cooperation to come.

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The two crewmembers of Skachok 3 survey each others' spacecraft from a distance, knowing that proving the ability of their vehicles to operate and dock independently would be crucial to the future of the program, and the survival of Bilybobski.

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Scientist-Kosmonaut Nelke of Skachok 4 performs an EVA to collect scientific data during the return journey from Minmus orbit. Soon he and Commander Svetlana will be the first Kosmonauts to return from such a far-off destination.

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Pilot-Kosmonaut Valentina takes her first steps onto the Mun during Skachok 5, ensuring that the USPR could hold a respectable second place, and that everything necessary to return her stranded comrade was ready.

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Valentina salutes the flag of the USPR, honoring all those whose efforts have brought her to such an amazing place.

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First Pilot-Kosmonaut Yebedia takes the first steps onto Minmus for Skachok 6, ready to be welcomed by his friend.

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As the two Kosmonauts board and launch the Skachok 6 lander, the Skachok 1 mission comes to an end at 1 year, 27 days in length.

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The two brave Kosmonauts recieve a hero's welcome at their landing site.

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Though it was only visited by 2 missions like its predecessors, Rassvet 3 was a key moment of transition for the orbital program.

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The crew of Mechta 24 approach the grand new station they are tasked with bringing to life: Arka.

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The engineering crews of the second expedition to Arka move slowly along the surface of the station, carrying parts to enhance the manuevering systems of the massive station.

0NGjVWI.pngMunokhod 1 landed at the site once intended for Skachok 1, before Minmus was chosen as a more suitable target, there it finds the long-dead Muna 12, launched over 2 years prior to explore the site.

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On its very first launch, the T3 stole away after many years the title of "Largest Rocket in the World". It also inaugurated the operational phase of the Mun-Minmus Expeditionary Complex that the Skachok Program had grown to be based upon.

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Munokhod 2 observes the newly landed Muna T-3A, both eagerly awaiting the arrival of the Kosmonauts of Skachok 7...

 

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31 minutes ago, billbobjebkirk said:

It's been several months IRL and over 2 years in-game since I posted my Soviet Style save, so I think it's time to give an update on what the Union of Socialist People's Republics has been up to!

  Reveal hidden contents

QgMvPAv.png
Engineer-Kosmonaut Bilybobski had come to Minmus knowing his year-long stay would be difficult, but he could hardly have overestimated the challenges that would lie ahead during the long wait.

c4nkLj3.png
Engineer-Kosmonaut Karski performs an EVA using a new spacesuit on Rassvet 2 to deploy the mini-station's starboard solar panel.

ZZ0ibeJ.png
Minmia G-1, the first of many resupply missions intented to keep Bilybobski alive and healthy, arrives on the surface with a cargo of food, water, and tools.

xSBMdfr.png
Following the docking of the Mechta 19 spacecraft to the Kosmos 105 booster, the Skachok 2 mission begins its journey to orbit the Mun for one week.

EcZcsIX.png
The crew of Skachok 2 became the first Kosmonauts ever to witness the famous Kerbinrise from the Mun

PRy7xrG.png
Skachok Base: Bilybobski's home away from home, and an unexpected center of scientific knowledge on a strange world. Joining him is a pressurized rover provided by the other side, a sign of cooperation to come.

W262hpP.png
OanDyXp.png
The two crewmembers of Skachok 3 survey each others' spacecraft from a distance, knowing that proving the ability of their vehicles to operate and dock independently would be crucial to the future of the program, and the survival of Bilybobski.

q7BcLi1.png
Scientist-Kosmonaut Nelke of Skachok 4 performs an EVA to collect scientific data during the return journey from Minmus orbit. Soon he and Commander Svetlana will be the first Kosmonauts to return from such a far-off destination.

2Mg6jpr.png
Pilot-Kosmonaut Valentina takes her first steps onto the Mun during Skachok 5, ensuring that the USPR could hold a respectable second place, and that everything necessary to return her stranded comrade was ready.

lOdDYsr.png
Valentina salutes the flag of the USPR, honoring all those whose efforts have brought her to such an amazing place.

HupTUKK.png?1
First Pilot-Kosmonaut Yebedia takes the first steps onto Minmus for Skachok 6, ready to be welcomed by his friend.

vW4ZmOJ.png
As the two Kosmonauts board and launch the Skachok 6 lander, the Skachok 1 mission comes to an end at 1 year, 27 days in length.

UptRFg4.png
The two brave Kosmonauts recieve a hero's welcome at their landing site.

VDc3JGa.png
Though it was only visited by 2 missions like its predecessors, Rassvet 3 was a key moment of transition for the orbital program.

bN5vldk.png
The crew of Mechta 24 approach the grand new station they are tasked with bringing to life: Arka.

8MkkLSE.png
The engineering crews of the second expedition to Arka move slowly along the surface of the station, carrying parts to enhance the manuevering systems of the massive station.

0NGjVWI.pngMunokhod 1 landed at the site once intended for Skachok 1, before Minmus was chosen as a more suitable target, there it finds the long-dead Muna 12, launched over 2 years prior to explore the site.

ZmSnyND.png
On its very first launch, the T3 stole away after many years the title of "Largest Rocket in the World". It also inaugurated the operational phase of the Mun-Minmus Expeditionary Complex that the Skachok Program had grown to be based upon.

IRMCtbe.png
Munokhod 2 observes the newly landed Muna T-3A, both eagerly awaiting the arrival of the Kosmonauts of Skachok 7...

 

amazing, the use of differential parts makes such nice style, is there somewhere to find and test these vehicle crafts?

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On 8/31/2021 at 4:40 PM, biohazard15 said:

It's been a very long time since I've used Fregat, but I remember it had an engine made specifically for it (so it doesn't look strange and the engine nodes give enough clearance). I can't find it now, only stage itself and additional fuel tank. Help?

The engine you want for Fregat is the Amethyst 11D425 Rocket Engine

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STS-71

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This one was a real PAIN. My advice if you're using MJ docking helper: undock Kristall, dock it to Shuttle, dock to Mir using Kristall as your control point. In Soviet Russia, you don't dock with space stations - space stations dock with YOU.

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On 8/30/2021 at 4:34 PM, septemberWaves said:

I've also encountered the roll issue with the R7 launch vehicle. Experimentation with various configurations of autostruts and rigid attachment (and lack thereof) doesn't seem to help with it. Additionally, I'm not using FAR or anything else which would affect the atmosphere, so strange atmospheric effects from another mod should be able to be ruled out.

 

On 8/30/2021 at 6:39 PM, Leszek said:

I am not using FAR either.  Try the "B" radial tanks instead of the "A" Variant and see if you can reproduce my results.  Also if you have Kerbal Engineer you can see the torque change, with the "A" tanks I have 3.7 kNm which is enough to trow things off, the same rocket with the "B" tanks has 0.

P.S. I tried to launch an N1 and found there are no parts for it.  So I got the N1 Folder from TantaresLV 13 but this didn't work.  I got my downloads from Spacedock.

It's in the description of the part... Or am I misunderstanding the "Engineers complain about weird angles" part?

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