AmateurAstronaut1969 Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 Also sorry, is the latest update released (The Mir parts one or something like that I can’t remember hehe) I was under the impression it was, but I downloaded from the Spacedock link and it appears to still be old parts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jcking Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 Tantares also helpfully includes the real name of the engines in their displayed name, but some of them are unfortunately known more commonly by other names. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friznit Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 (edited) 54 minutes ago, lemon cup said: Same! Just got back into this after a couple of years apart, and I am quite lost! But thankfully there is a trusty Friznit Build Wiki to help us out, though perhaps some of it is out of date? It should be up to date with the latest official release. Names often change in dev, so the github dev version of Tantares may differ. If anything is unclear or you're struggling to build something from the guide, let me know and I'll update it. Edited July 6, 2021 by Friznit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beale Posted July 6, 2021 Author Share Posted July 6, 2021 4 hours ago, AmateurAstronaut1969 said: Is there a real names patch for tantares like there is for BDB? I would make one myself before people ask, but I literally have no clue No patch currently, but everything is tagged with irl names - so if you search you know, "Salyut" or whatever, you will get the parts you need. 8 hours ago, nothingSpecial said: a question on this mistery orb that is clearly no based on anything would, purely hypothetically, that top thing include breaking motors for soft landing (not like anyone would want to land in this thing, just a silly thought) It certainly would! ...hypothetically. On 7/5/2021 at 8:12 PM, Kuiper_Belt said: A Legendary Partnership beauty! Got to love habtech. 3 hours ago, AmateurAstronaut1969 said: Also sorry, is the latest update released (The Mir parts one or something like that I can’t remember hehe) I was under the impression it was, but I downloaded from the Spacedock link and it appears to still be old parts These are still a work in progress, (but very close to completion!) Not yet released. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmateurAstronaut1969 Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 19 minutes ago, Beale said: These are still a work in progress, (but very close to completion!) Not yet released. Yeah I managed to find the WIP earlier in the thread - It looks really really Nice! Can’t wait for the Full Release! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MashAndBangers Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 2 hours ago, Beale said: Absolutely beautiful, drop dead gorgeous! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldForest Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 (edited) Salyut 7, as seen in Eyes Turns Skyward. Edited July 7, 2021 by GoldForest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaintedLion Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 54 minutes ago, GoldForest said: Salyut 7, as seen in Eyes Turns Skyward. so you just gonna stick a salyut on another salyut and call it a multi module space station Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldForest Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 8 minutes ago, TaintedLion said: so you just gonna stick a salyut on another salyut and call it a multi module space station I'm just following the picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friznit Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 Just DOSing about in space, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beale Posted July 8, 2021 Author Share Posted July 8, 2021 Let's talk about seating, One seat, nice and simple: Two seat (ignore the helmets) - doable: Three seat, things get tricky. Triangle pattern: couch: Obviously nothing is ideal, and there is clipping here. So I would like to hear thoughts - two or three seats for the second sphere capsule? Thoughts on gameplay balancing and not just historical accuracy would be really appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman.Spiff Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 13 minutes ago, Beale said: Three seat, things get tricky. Could you have the third kerbal on the opposite side of the capsule facing the other two? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MashAndBangers Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Beale said: Let's talk about seating, I'm fine with just 2. Voskhod 1 was the only 3 person mission for the Voskhod programme. Voskhod 2 was of course 2 person, and the canceled missions were mostly 2 person, with a 1 person mission thrown in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuiper_Belt Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 (edited) The Dawn of an Era. See what I did there ? Edited July 8, 2021 by Kuiper_Belt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minmus Taster Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 2 hours ago, Spaceman.Spiff said: Could you have the third kerbal on the opposite side of the capsule facing the other two? Yes and @Beale could put the control panel in between/to the side of the kerbals! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softweir Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 2 hours ago, Spaceman.Spiff said: Could you have the third kerbal on the opposite side of the capsule facing the other two? What, so he'd be face-down during liftoff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beccab Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 9 minutes ago, softweir said: What, so he'd be face-down during liftoff? He is a kerbal, he will be fine. Actually, the three could start fighting for who gets to stay on the upper seat depending on their stupidity levels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nothingSpecial Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, Beale said: Let's talk about seating, One seat, nice and simple: Two seat (ignore the helmets) - doable: Three seat, things get tricky. Triangle pattern: couch: Obviously nothing is ideal, and there is clipping here. So I would like to hear thoughts - two or three seats for the second sphere capsule? Thoughts on gameplay balancing and not just historical accuracy would be really appreciated. i'd say go for two only. having three of them was insanity even in real context (i, uh, would say that voskhod-1 was the most dangerous spacecraft in the whole history). replicas needs aside, it will compete somewhat with tantares in career. on the other hand, inserting three kerbals in a spherical tin can is so damn kerbal - i can imagine the line of reasoning here: "they can bear that so that's okay". its funny so maybe acceptable with a side dish of replica, but do not overstress yourself if you can't place all of them. out of presented options id say couch is better, and small amount of clipping (if they wont like go through each other's cameras in first person view) is even good - it will look like they sit in cramped capsule, it's exactly what is needed? but bottom line is do not overstress yourself. personally i would be perfectly fine with two crew voskhod-1 and one crew voskhod-2 (it's not like i have never done one kerballed evas, even on voskhods made of your previous incarnations of vostok). btw, will it be named cassiopeia? pegasus? perseus? medusa? also, in the case you do choose to make a three crew capsule in a couch sitting, make the central seat be the last one taken. a little bit of comfort! oh, and another thought: you can also try to place one kerbal in inverted position (head where legs of others are). not sure if it will give more space, but at least eyes wouldn't get pushed out of poor fella's eyesockets during liftoff... Edited July 9, 2021 by nothingSpecial Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldForest Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 ETS MIR, full Russian completion (No Chinese), fully crewed with 12 Kerbals and being supplied by 3 FGB cargo tugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmateurAstronaut1969 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 @Friznit, I was gonna ask, since you do all the wikis, including Tantares, are we ever going to get wiki pages on Tantares SP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friznit Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 19 minutes ago, AmateurAstronaut1969 said: @Friznit, I was gonna ask, since you do all the wikis, including Tantares, are we ever going to get wiki pages on Tantares SP? Yes absolutely, it's on my To Do list. I'm waiting for Beale's current dev cycle to get close to completion before reviewing and updating everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mati1268 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 Does Tantares work on 1.12 version of KSP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minmus Taster Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 49 minutes ago, Mati1268 said: Does Tantares work on 1.12 version of KSP? Welcome to the forums! The most recent version is for 1.11.2 but it should still work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldForest Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Mati1268 said: Does Tantares work on 1.12 version of KSP? Works fine for me. Of course, I'm using the dev build. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiL Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 On 7/8/2021 at 8:27 PM, Beale said: So I would like to hear thoughts - two or three seats for the second sphere capsule? Thoughts on gameplay balancing and not just historical accuracy would be really appreciated. I personally feel like 2 seats is enough. With 3 seats it would overlap with Soyuz too much, and 2 seats are not only plenty enough to recreate Voskhod mission profile, but would also make this into a sort of gameplay analogue for MH Gemini pod. 3-manned Voskhod will be essential only for EXTREME history nerds, and they could easily add a missing seat via .cfg editing... By the way, speaking of which, a 3-man IVA (seing as it is already sort of in-game) could be made into an extra option coming with github download. A triangle pattern is, IMO, better in this case as it looks more realistic (as realistic as THAT can look lol), and does not, again, overlap visually with Souz which has, as i remember, a "couch" layout. 4 hours ago, Mati1268 said: Does Tantares work on 1.12 version of KSP? Yes, mods that ad parts are generally not too sensetive to game versions. Problems can arise with plugins, or some mods with a lot of dependencies, but even they are usually fine if not specified othervise. Main mod-breaking updates (after which plugin mods made for earlier versions usually break) are 1.8 and 1.10, minor ones are 1.4 and 1.5 I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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