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[1.12.X] Tantares - Stockalike Soyuz and MIR [26.0][18.12.2023][Soyuz Revamp Again]


Beale

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The flipping problem is back for the Soyuz/R7 booster. Gravity turn around 300 m/s as usual, starts doing flips at about 30-40degrees off vertical.

The following MM patch resolves the issue (increases the weight of the bulge tanks to move the center of gravity up):
 

@PART[tantares_lv_fuel_tank_s1p5_s1_1]
{
  @mass = 2.5
}

@PART[tantares_lv_fuel_tank_s1p5_s1_2]
{
  @mass = 2.65
}

@PART[tantares_lv_fuel_tank_s1p5_s1_3]
{
  @mass = 2.75
}

@PART[tantares_lv_fuel_tank_s1p5_s1_4]
{
  @mass = 2.85
}

 

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10 hours ago, Tyko said:

@Beale - Sir, I don't think the A-USF01 tank has enough LFO for its volume compared to your other tanks. it looks to be off by a factor of 3x or so, not just a little bit. I opened a issue on Github:

https://github.com/Tantares/TantaresLV/issues/31

 

Argh! I could swear I fixed this.

Apologies for the delay - I will resolve it soon.

1 hour ago, tjsnh said:

The flipping problem is back for the Soyuz/R7 booster. Gravity turn around 300 m/s as usual, starts doing flips at about 30-40degrees off vertical.

The following MM patch resolves the issue (increases the weight of the bulge tanks to move the center of gravity up):
 


@PART[tantares_lv_fuel_tank_s1p5_s1_1]
{
  @mass = 2.5
}

@PART[tantares_lv_fuel_tank_s1p5_s1_2]
{
  @mass = 2.65
}

@PART[tantares_lv_fuel_tank_s1p5_s1_3]
{
  @mass = 2.75
}

@PART[tantares_lv_fuel_tank_s1p5_s1_4]
{
  @mass = 2.85
}

 

Do you have a pic of the craft you are using? I have been flying really care-free and it comfortably can be at 80-90 degrees at 30km up.

Not that I don't believe you! This just sounds like possible weird drag-cube stuff/

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58 minutes ago, Beale said:

Argh! I could swear I fixed this.

Apologies for the delay - I will resolve it soon.

Do you have a pic of the craft you are using? I have been flying really care-free and it comfortably can be at 80-90 degrees at 30km up.

Not that I don't believe you! This just sounds like possible weird drag-cube stuff/

When I get home from the office I'll post a .craft file.

Just VERY simple sputnik-1 style crafts, I tried a few slight variations in the combination of bulge tanks. It seems that unless the payload is VERY heavy (tens of tons), the launch profile slips to blackflips a few seconds after starting the gravity turn. Increasing the weight of the bulge tanks seems to resolve the issue completely.

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27 minutes ago, tjsnh said:

When I get home from the office I'll post a .craft file.

Just VERY simple sputnik-1 style crafts, I tried a few slight variations in the combination of bulge tanks. It seems that unless the payload is VERY heavy (tens of tons), the launch profile slips to blackflips a few seconds after starting the gravity turn. Increasing the weight of the bulge tanks seems to resolve the issue completely.

Aaah! Okay I'll make a Sputnik craft and upload it also :) 

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5 hours ago, ARTOBAN said:

were old craft file ?

In progress.

5 hours ago, space_powder said:

Is there a config for Snacks? The Soyuz spacecraft parts don't have any snacks but instead TAC resources which I don't really need

I don't think there is one, I usually only make the patches for the mods I use myself (maybe a little selfish :D ) but, I don't use life support.

2 hours ago, ely8937 said:

Do you plan to update the ship Soyuz?

What would you like to see in an updated one?

 

 

New craft files:

Yard Nuclear Soyuz.
Needs a more powerful nuclear stage to be practical.

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Sputnik R7

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@tjsnh is your R7 similar to the one above? No problems flying it here - Though I did run out of electric charge and it flipped because of lack of control (Stupid question but that's not happening to you is it? :D )
Second test flight 100% success.

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36 minutes ago, ely8937 said:

size does not fit the new rocket

It does fit the 1.5 m variant perfectly. Honestly, the only reason 1.5m is not the main variant of the Soyuz rocket is that it doesn't divide cleanly by Squad's 1.25m.

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19 minutes ago, ely8937 said:

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9 minutes ago, TK-313 said:

It does fit the 1.5 m variant perfectly. Honestly, the only reason 1.5m is not the main variant of the Soyuz rocket is that it doesn't divide cleanly by Squad's 1.25m.

Ah okay, yeah I see what you mean. As TK is correct - the 1.5m variant parts (Working on patch to make this easy to switch to) are a "perfect" fit.

Exact "KSP Sizes" for these are 1.625m for the upper stage and 1.375m for the Soyuz. but these do not work cleanly with any other mods / parts.

Hope this helps.

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11 minutes ago, TK-313 said:

It does fit the 1.5 m variant perfectly. Honestly, the only reason 1.5m is not the main variant of the Soyuz rocket is that it doesn't divide cleanly by Squad's 1.25m.

1.2 is as clean as 1.5x (1.875m), IMO.

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On 6/4/2019 at 1:01 AM, Tyko said:

@Beale - Sir, I don't think the A-USF01 tank has enough LFO for its volume compared to your other tanks. it looks to be off by a factor of 3x or so, not just a little bit. I opened a issue on Github:

https://github.com/Tantares/TantaresLV/issues/31

 

Now resolved on Git for next rel, thanks for the issue report!

https://github.com/Tantares/TantaresLV

12 hours ago, sslaptnhablhat said:

@Beale Just tried the new release, loving the new parts.

Once the 1.5/1.625 parts are finished, could you pweeeeeease finish those control cores? Also, do you plan on adding Soyuz upper stages like Fregat, Breeze-M, Ikar etc.?

New cores are in the pipeline now yes, they should be fast to produce.

Upper stages might be later, but next I want to re-do the LK lander:

  • Two stage.
  • Non-grey colour scheme.

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