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2 hours ago, lude said:

it's in the kerbal space folder next to the file you start it with

 

did you by chance drop the gamedata folder into the gamedata folder instead of the kspmainfolder?

Nope I dropped my game data folder in the main folder

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4 hours ago, glaivens said:

 

What did you need to see ?

Any errors about kerbinside or kerbinkonstructs, they have been recently updated, it could be that with kerbal 1209 this mod broke as well, haven't tried that one still using the last two (at least quite a few other mods seem to break over needing two arguments for something instead of one)

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On 14/04/2016 at 11:51 PM, Roxor said:

AlphaAsh. I wanted to ask you if by chance you have a list of the Latitude/Longitude/Height/Tracking Station Name for all the ground stations dishes.  Some of the files have RefLatitude and RefLongitude but others don't.  I would copy it from in-game but there I can't see the name's of tracking stations.  It would be vary tricky for me so I was just wondering if you have a list like that?

This is so I can apply that data to my RemoteTech settings and have ground stations that work with Kerbin Side.

 

EDIT: Through the process of elimination I was able to find what I needed. I went ahead and added 1 dish for each ground station location to the RemoteTech settings cfg.

 

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    RangeMultiplier = 1
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    RangeModelType = Standard
    MultipleAntennaMultiplier = 0
    ThrottleTimeWarp = True
    ThrottleZeroOnNoConnection = True
    HideGroundStationsBehindBody = False
    DishConnectionColor = 0.9960784,0.7019608,0.03137255,1
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RefLatitude and RefLongitude are only calculated and written out to an Instance when necessary - usually when opening a tracking station.

Regarding RemoteTech, I actually have KK now dynamically updating the RT cfg's groundstations when they are opened and closed. Unfortunately, I've not yet been able to get RemoteTech to then re-read its config. It's only loaded and groundstations generated on gamestart/main menu.

I am in contact with the RT team to see if I can get some support from their API for making groundstation availability real-time.

On 15/04/2016 at 1:00 AM, Fireheart318 said:

That's interesting. When I'm in a Kerbal Foundries hovercraft, it hit them, but if I'm flying low in a plane, nothing happens!

Kerbal Foundries hovercraft's generate a large collider beneath them in recent versions. Try an older version. The issue here is Kerbal Foundries and it's one that was discussed some weeks ago, so worth doing some forum trawling for more info.

On 18/04/2016 at 9:01 AM, lude said:

Any errors about kerbinside or kerbinkonstructs, they have been recently updated, it could be that with kerbal 1209 this mod broke as well, haven't tried that one still using the last two (at least quite a few other mods seem to break over needing two arguments for something instead of one)

I've been AFK for a few days because of a long needed holiday and it may well be that there's been a KSP release that's gone and b0rked up KK again. I'll be investigating today.

With regards to installation and 'it don't work':

1 - I have addressed installation issues numerous times in this thread, worded in more ways than meals I've had since birth it seems. I am not going to repeat myself yet again. Search the thread, apply brain-power, figure it out, ask other thread-dwellers.

2 - If you can't be bothered to include more information beyond 'it don't work' I'm not even going to bother acknowledging such a post.

EDIT: @lude Obviously not directed at you chap. I just hooked this response off your post because it was the last relevant.

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50 minutes ago, AlphaAsh said:

 

Regarding RemoteTech, I actually have KK now dynamically updating the RT cfg's groundstations when they are opened and closed. Unfortunately, I've not yet been able to get RemoteTech to then re-read its config. It's only loaded and groundstations generated on gamestart/main menu.

 

this sounds pretty awesome, it makes a nice progression possible by buying ground stations

and hehe even before the edit i didn't worry

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9 hours ago, optimusjamie said:

Is KS compatible at all with Kerbal Construction Time?

It was. However, due to recent changes in KSP's API, it's probably safe to assume that until myself and magico13 confirm it working again, it isn't compatible, no.

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@AlphaAsh I wanted to say a quick thanks is all.  KerbinSide is one of, if not my very favorite mod for KSP.  It got me building planes and exploring Kerbin's surface, experimenting w/different launch sites, and it has completely reinvigorated the game for me.  Furthermore, the passion and downright quickness with which the modding community has put out these updates for 1.1 has been unbelievable.  I've never seen anything like it - and your efforts have been no exception.  I just wanted you to know how much I(and many other players as well) genuinely appreciate what you do and what you contribute to the modding community and toward the game itself.  

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v1.0.9 of Kerbin-Side Complete now available from SpaceDock.

Changelog:

  • Rolled in updates to Core, Ground Control, Air-Race, Skyways, KSC2 and Kampus.
  • Added a new airfield, Valentina's Landing.
  • Started implementing operational facilities at bases. More in the next update.
  • No longer bundling dependency Kerbal Konstructs. You'll need to get that separately.
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Loving Kerbinside now that I have the RAM (and KSP can utilize it).

Is there a location that spawns the craft over/in water? If not, it's desperately needed!

EDIT: I see now that KSC Island is close enough.

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12 minutes ago, curiousepic said:

Loving Kerbinside now that I have the RAM (and KSP can utilize it).

Is there a location that spawns the craft over/in water? If not, it's desperately needed!

EDIT: I see now that KSC Island is close enough.

KSC Island does indeed have a boat launch.

Eskandare has a Kerbin-Side pack called Oceania currently being updated, which includes lots of what you're looking for. I'm also planning a few ocean based facilities.

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Working on getting the various files re-hosted. SpaceDock is once again proving itself unreliable :(

Everything is up on Alpha Strike Games as well now. See the OP for links. Please note that my web-space doesn't have the capabilities of a proper file hosting service. But then neither does SpaceDock, it seems of late.

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something seems to have gone south with CKAN since you separated air race out today.  Most of the kerbin-side modules now for some reason require the ContractPack: SCANSat module, which hasn't been updated since 1.0.4, and CKAN pukes on installing everything except the updates to KSC itself...

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Paging @politas who was working on the CKAN data yesterday.

Sorry ss8913, I don't maintain the CKAN data on Kerbin-Side and there continues to be some problem with CKAN being able to deal with a single dependency and then everything else goes on top of each other. \o/

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4 hours ago, ss8913 said:

something seems to have gone south with CKAN since you separated air race out today.  Most of the kerbin-side modules now for some reason require the ContractPack: SCANSat module, which hasn't been updated since 1.0.4, and CKAN pukes on installing everything except the updates to KSC itself...

Try uninstalling, refreshing, and then reinstalling rather than updating, when this happens. The ContractPack module being mentioned is I think some kind of off-by-one error in the exception report.

Using CKAN, you can only install one Kerbinside pack. You can pick a single one, or install the complete pack, but you can't combine single packs. This is due to the various shared files and a lack of clean separation. If AlphaAsh had one or two folders containing all the assets that were common to all packs, and separate asset folders for each pack's individual non-shared assets, we could make it work, but with the files all jumbled up in the Core-Assets folder, CKAN can't handle it without making the installation instructions so specific and detailed that we'd need a complete re-write for every release.

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32 minutes ago, politas said:

Try uninstalling, refreshing, and then reinstalling rather than updating, when this happens. The ContractPack module being mentioned is I think some kind of off-by-one error in the exception report.

Using CKAN, you can only install one Kerbinside pack. You can pick a single one, or install the complete pack, but you can't combine single packs. This is due to the various shared files and a lack of clean separation. If AlphaAsh had one or two folders containing all the assets that were common to all packs, and separate asset folders for each pack's individual non-shared assets, we could make it work, but with the files all jumbled up in the Core-Assets folder, CKAN can't handle it without making the installation instructions so specific and detailed that we'd need a complete re-write for every release.

Your solution would make Complete redundant and force downloading of all individual packs to get everything.

Also some assets aren't common to all packs.

Also separating assets that aren't shared means having to re-write all the configs and making file management even more of a chore for me.

Having all the core assets in a CoreAssets folder is the cleanest solution for me.

The whole point of deploying Kerbin-Side in this manner is it gives options, especially for those who insist on still playing 32 bit, allows players to be choosey about what they actually want, and avoids having RAM being eaten up by un-used models and textures.

I'm surprised it's difficult to add a setting to CKAN that essentially says 'just over-write existing files when this one is installed'.

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4 hours ago, AlphaAsh said:

Your solution would make Complete redundant and force downloading of all individual packs to get everything.

Also some assets aren't common to all packs.

Also separating assets that aren't shared means having to re-write all the configs and making file management even more of a chore for me.

Having all the core assets in a CoreAssets folder is the cleanest solution for me.

The whole point of deploying Kerbin-Side in this manner is it gives options, especially for those who insist on still playing 32 bit, allows players to be choosey about what they actually want, and avoids having RAM being eaten up by un-used models and textures.

I'm surprised it's difficult to add a setting to CKAN that essentially says 'just over-write existing files when this one is installed'.

There are perfectly good reasons for Kerbin-Side to be the way it is, I get that. There are also very long-discussed and debated reasons why CKAN refuses to overwrite files. I don't want to revisit those arguments. It's a headache for you to make Kerbin-Side work perfectly with CKAN, and it's a headache for us to make CKAN work perfectly with Kerbin-Side. So what we have is a compromise. As long as everyone's aware that it's a compromise, we can all get along. If people want to install a subset of Kerbin-Side that's more than one pack, they can install Complete and delete the stuff they don't want, or they can install one Kerbin-Side pack through CKAN and add others manually.

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