spaceman1999 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Ohhh! I feel stupid now! Haha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trekkie_ Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 If your wanting what I think you do this still works. Would Probably be a good idea to have something like this at other locations to....I was thinking that, but also thinking static bases. I wanted to put a static water base with a docking port to land on and transfer resources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Kerbice Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Regarding Ashlain feature (unlocking launch site before being able to use them, and even be aware of their existence) I think it could be good this way:- go to the location (spotted by ScanSat satellite or found by chance),- drop a kerbal, explore- "unlock"/"activate" the site (new EVA command) => take a look at KAS source for how to to this(- eventually find something, like a switch, to be able to do this, which may add a kind of exploration gameplay)How it could be done:- each building have a unlocked (bool) data OR a persistent list of launch site is kept with the status of each launchsite- when a launchsite is unlocked/activated, the list is updated- the launch button is refreshed with the new site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alshain Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Regarding Ashlain feature (unlocking launch site before being able to use them, and even be aware of their existence) I think it could be good this way:- go to the location (spotted by ScanSat satellite or found by chance),- drop a kerbal, explore- "unlock"/"activate" the site (new EVA command) => take a look at KAS source for how to to this(- eventually find something, like a switch, to be able to do this, which may add a kind of exploration gameplay)How it could be done:- each building have a unlocked (bool) data OR a persistent list of launch site is kept with the status of each launchsite- when a launchsite is unlocked/activated, the list is updated- the launch button is refreshed with the new siteWell I wouldn't want it to get too complicated. Simply landing there is good enough to say it's been explored. Obviously the author is going to implement it how he wants, but I think it could be a great new gameplay mechanic and I would hate to see it get bogged down by too much tedium. Good ideas, but trying to find hidden switches seems more of chore than fun to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSD Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 I agree with this; Just seeying the object should "unlocked" that side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medsouz Posted September 18, 2014 Author Share Posted September 18, 2014 I was thinking maybe in Sandbox you have all the sites by default, in Science you have to find them, and in career you can research the ability to launch at new sites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaAsh Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 (edited) I was thinking maybe in Sandbox you have all the sites by default, in Science you have to find them, and in career you can research the ability to launch at new sites.In career, I'd like to see unlocking launch sites as a funds sink-hole. A location's 'traits' could determine it's cost to unlock: distance from KSC, vicinity to a pole or the equator, recovery distance modifier (basically, have a weighting on a base's recovery rate), modifier to craft cost for launching (+ or - a %). The features of a base would then influence those traits. So a helipad would mean better recovery rate. A VAB would mean reduced launch costs (because the craft can be more easily re-assembled after the parts have been shipped from KSC) etc.You could even have a 'risk' trait that influences rep rewards for missions launched from a base, and a 'science' trait for missions launched from a particular base. If a base has research facilities of its own, it's going to be able to take some of the load off KSC for data analysis, meaning a small bonus to science gained from a mission launched from that base. Edited September 18, 2014 by AlphaAsh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alshain Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 I was thinking maybe in Sandbox you have all the sites by default, in Science you have to find them, and in career you can research the ability to launch at new sites.That would be fine if you meant in career you have to find and research/purchase them. I don't play science, I want to have to find them in career. That would be my preference anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niemand303 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Something strange, Kosmodrome mod doesn't work with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alshain Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Something strange, Kosmodrome mod doesn't work with it.Are you sure it works with KerbTown. Sounds like a silly question but it is a WIP, it could bugged. I ask because Kerbin City works and it hasn't been updated to KK yet either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrador Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Can these objects be placed on other planets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divico Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Something strange, Kosmodrome mod doesn't work with it.What exactly isn't working?The clickable floodlights don't work with Kerbal Konstructs, medsouz hasn't implemented it yet. AnimateOnClick is on the "Commong soon" list in the first post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tygoo7 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Will there be a fix for sites like KerbTown that don't use LaunchPadTransform like Kerbin City? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfiniteDice Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Seem to have an issue getting the ctrl+k menu to come up. Is there anything needed other than a kerbal/vessel in the area to get this to work... I've messed with Kerbtown a lot in the past so I though this would be a simple test... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medsouz Posted September 18, 2014 Author Share Posted September 18, 2014 Will there be a fix for sites like KerbTown that don't use LaunchPadTransform like Kerbin City?I added support for Kerbin City in the last release and in the next release will have a fix for even older KerbTown addons like the missile silo.Seem to have an issue getting the ctrl+k menu to come up. Is there anything needed other than a kerbal/vessel in the area to get this to work... I've messed with Kerbtown a lot in the past so I though this would be a simple test... Check my PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medsouz Posted September 19, 2014 Author Share Posted September 19, 2014 I just released an update to fix a major saving issue that AlphaAsh found.Grab the update from KerbalStuffv0.2.1 (9/18/14)Fixed major saving issueAdded launch site transform fallback mode for older KerbTown objects like the ICBM silo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfiniteDice Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 I added support for Kerbin City in the last release and in the next release will have a fix for even older KerbTown addons like the missile silo.Check my PM. Thanks you're right, I somehow unpacked the wrong zip and now I feel silly. I'll check this out and post some stuff back here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tygoo7 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 I just released an update to fix a major saving issue that AlphaAsh found.Grab the update from KerbalStuffv0.2.1 (9/18/14)Fixed major saving issueAdded launch site transform fallback mode for older KerbTown objects like the ICBM siloYes thank you! It works now. I really love the selector! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engineer of Stuff Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 I absolutely love this mod. I just spent two hours last night making my own custom launch site! How do you use KerbinKonstructs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alshain Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 How do you use KerbinKonstructs?There is a button on the app launcher/toolbar while in the VAP/SPH to choose where you want to launch. Your experience will vary based on what else you have installed, such as Kerbin City, KSC++, and KerbinSide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niemand303 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 What exactly isn't working?The clickable floodlights don't work with Kerbal Konstructs, medsouz hasn't implemented it yet. AnimateOnClick is on the "Commong soon" list in the first post.There is no Kosmodrome launchpads in the VAB. :cEdit: Checked with the new version, everything works fine. Thanks for the good job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Kerbice Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 I just released an update to fix a major saving issue that AlphaAsh found.Grab the update from KerbalStuffv0.2.1 (9/18/14)Fixed major saving issueAdded launch site transform fallback mode for older KerbTown objects like the ICBM siloThanks for the update, may we have more info on this "major" issue please ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaAsh Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Thanks for the update, may we have more info on this "major" issue please ?Justin, don't worry chap. It was only major in that KerbinSide had a lot of non-critical data in a lot of configs that got wiped. It just caused some minor inconvenience and isn't going to be much effort to restore the configs. For those content devs with only a handful of launch locations to set-up, it'll be even less of an inconvenience if they run in to it. I'll be checking the new version today and I expect it's been resolved anyway.Specifics wise, it was a bug linked to object saving and file writes to static config files edited by KK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medsouz Posted September 19, 2014 Author Share Posted September 19, 2014 Thanks for the update, may we have more info on this "major" issue please ?Major as in I wrote the wrong config name down for the site type, description, and logo causing them to be deleted when you save objects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyben101 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Holy moly... just installed the fix for kerb town (i didn't actually install KK) and my god... it fixes SOOOO much lag + rep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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