[1.8.x - 1.12.x] US Rockets (Aerobee/Vanguard/Scout/Juno II/Thor-Delta/Titan 34D-III Commercial-IV) - 8-26-21

[raidernick]

On 5/23/2016 at 11:15 AM, gsarducci said:

So I'm having a bit of an issue with the sub-assemblies.  Many of the node attachment points are borked, thus I get this:

Is this a common problem/easy fix?  I will drop in logs and such if need be but I wanted to get this out quick.

 

Thanks!

You are either using the stock subassemblies with RSS/RO, the RSS/RO subassemblies with stock or you installed one or both of those mods with ckan and it didn't install correctly, or all 3 of those things.

[gsarducci]

Okay.  I'm going to assume I've installed both and just wipe them all and start over.   This is indeed in RSS/RO.

[Kerbal01]

Im searching for this mod on CKAN, I am unable to find it. The only raidernick mods are Antares,Kosmos,Skylab and RNMisc. Its probably an issue with my install, ill check. Running Ckan installed RSS w/o RO, Vens on 1.1.3. Manually installed, mod is functioning as intended.

Edited July 2, 2016 by DarthVader

[raidernick]

37 minutes ago, DarthVader said:

Im searching for this mod on CKAN, I am unable to find it. The only raidernick mods are Antares,Kosmos,Skylab and RNMisc. Its probably an issue with my install, ill check. Running Ckan installed RSS w/o RO, Vens on 1.1.3. Manually installed, mod is functioning as intended.

As stated in the OP for all my mods, I don't provide support of any kind for ckan. If it is not on ckan, blame the dependency mod authors for not updating their metadata. If the dependencies are not updated, mods that require them won't show up.

[Kerbal01]

Thanks

[raidernick]

Started working on the Titan IV A and B. Here is the UA-1207 booster for the B modeled so far.

 

[raidernick]

Did the LR-87 for the IV-A, the IV-B has a different skirt on the bells so I need to redo it for that.

[raidernick]

LR-87-11 is done

[raidernick]

LR-91-11 is done

[liquidhype]

Looking good so far. Are you planning on doing Titan 3s as well? If so, then I'll just stop working on my Titans, as I've also modeled all the Titan 3 and 4 variants, although a lot more detailed. I see no point in multiple people working on the same lifters.

[raidernick]

Engines are in the game:

Edited July 4, 2016 by raidernick

[raidernick]

UA1207 for the Titan IV-A is done. Here is a mockup first stage using stock tanks for the center, the new boosters and lr-87-11's:

 

[raidernick]

Here it is in RO on the FASA Titan IIIE. I made 3 configs for the model, UA1205, UA1206 and UA1207 and scaled appropriately.

[Kerbal01]

I found a bug( and a way to fix it). I was using the Aerobee 350 (prebuilt craft) on a CKAN installed(not the issue) RSS/RO install in 1.1.3. Whenever i would launch the vehicle, the second stage engine would stop after a few seconds of burn. I did some experimenting and figured out it was MJ and the max acceleration limiter messing with things (even though i wasnt using any MJ functions). Disabling MJ on the probe core in the VAB fixed this issue.

[CobaltWolf]

UA1206? Oh dear. Don't make me add another one to BDB. Did you just scale them? I modeled them as separate segments, with the different length stripes on the ends, and inserted clean/plain segments in the middle for the different lengths.

Also, is the intent to use these engines with the rest of the craft being made out of FASA parts?

[raidernick]

12 minutes ago, CobaltWolf said:

UA1206? Oh dear. Don't make me add another one to BDB. Did you just scale them? I modeled them as separate segments, with the different length stripes on the ends, and inserted clean/plain segments in the middle for the different lengths.

Also, is the intent to use these engines with the rest of the craft being made out of FASA parts?

I had to just scale them yes. I tried separating the nozzle area from the segments so I could just scale the segments but it doesn't work in RO. Unlike stock there is no flow mode for solids, so the nozzle "engine" can't feed from the segments and tells me it flamed out from lack of fuel. My only option was to either make a new mesh for every single variation of the booster(I'm not doing that, it's a waste of ram and bloats the mod size), or do what I did here.

 

No I am not using this with FASA, I am making the entire titan iv from scratch, I am just using fasa to test the various parts as I make them.

Edited July 9, 2016 by raidernick

[CobaltWolf]

Just now, raidernick said:

I had to just scale them yes. I tried separating the nozzle area from the segments so I could just scale the segments but it doesn't work in RO. Unlike stock there is no flow mode for solids, so the nozzle "engine" can't feed from the segments and tells me it flamed out from lack of fuel. My only option was to either make a new mesh for every single variation of the booster(I'm not doing that, it's a waste of ram and bloats the mod size), or do what I did here.

Stock doesn't let solid fuel flow, I was referring to the modeling program step. Yeah there are multiple .mu files but those are nothing compared to textures, the segments only take up a small part of the texture sheet.

[raidernick]

3 minutes ago, CobaltWolf said:

Stock doesn't let solid fuel flow, I was referring to the modeling program step. Yeah there are multiple .mu files but those are nothing compared to textures, the segments only take up a small part of the texture sheet.

I don't play stock so I didn't actually know that. I'm less concerned about the game resources used and more concerned about bloating the mod size, the model files for just the booster and engines so far are larger than the entire rest of the pack combined because of the fidelity.

Also, I'm not making the titan iii or 34d so making separate models for boosters for a rocket I'm not making is pointless. I included the config for RO just because why not, but for the base pack I'm not including extra parts that won't be used by default.

Edited July 9, 2016 by raidernick

[Aeraxon]

Hey,

first of all: Awesome Mod!

I just have one problem: Since around 3 Days I am not doing anything else in KSP than trying to build your rockets. I am just not able to combine them in the right way. Do you have any tutorials, blueprints or walksthroughs how to actually build the different rockets?

The second problem is: With the rockets, that I combine (probably not the exact right order) I am not able to reach orbit. I am using RSS with SMURFF but without RO. Maybe it is a balancing problem, but I am not sure.

 

Do you have any help, hints or tips for me?

 

Thanks

Aeraxon

[raidernick]

32 minutes ago, Aeraxon said:

Hey,

first of all: Awesome Mod!

I just have one problem: Since around 3 Days I am not doing anything else in KSP than trying to build your rockets. I am just not able to combine them in the right way. Do you have any tutorials, blueprints or walksthroughs how to actually build the different rockets?

The second problem is: With the rockets, that I combine (probably not the exact right order) I am not able to reach orbit. I am using RSS with SMURFF but without RO. Maybe it is a balancing problem, but I am not sure.

 

Do you have any help, hints or tips for me?

 

Thanks

Aeraxon

uhhh, well this is not compatible with smurff at all so it makes sense that it wouldn't reach orbit, you are using the stock tank values for earth....

As for assembling them, it's really not that hard, RO and stock both come with craft files and subassemblies for all the rockets. For your weird install though I can't help you with that.

[VASMIR]

Can you try to add the Conestoga 1620?  Weird rocket, but looks cool.

[Jall]

Just wondering, how is work on the Vanguard going/ any estimate on when you will release it? Thanks

[raidernick]

28 minutes ago, Jall said:

Just wondering, how is work on the Vanguard going/ any estimate on when you will release it? Thanks

I've been having a really hard time finding the drive to actually finish it. I enjoy working on probes, engines and other minor mechanical small details. I struggle to do the overall large stage bodies(I know it sounds silly), this is the main reason vanguard development has stalled. I already started titan iv and I ran into the same issue. I have the entire rocket done(boosters, payloads, fairings, engines, decouplers, adapters) but haven't even started the core stack tanks. I will try and get this done but I am definitely going to finish the titan iv before doing the vanguard as the titan has practical uses and the vanguard rocket is essentially useless.

[Jall]

1 hour ago, raidernick said:

the titan has practical uses and the vanguard rocket is essentially useless.

Fair enough. I personally just enjoy the 'feel' of launching the older rockets.

[raidernick]

Here are the beginnings of the Titan IV core stage.