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  2. NO. Did you not read my post you replied to? "When was the last 100% reusable (actually reusable, unlike Shuttle) rocket tested by anyone? " 100%. What part of that is unclear? That means, um 100%. So never been done by anyone, ever. Nixon announcing the Shuttle program: https://www.nasa.gov/history/president-nixons-1972-announcement-on-the-space-shuttle/ So from inception designed to be (aspirationally) 1/10the cost of expendable LVs. So replacing all launch except maybe Saturn V sized stuff and... smallsat scaled launchers? I should add that it will not have been done by anyone, ever, until a landed system is restacked, and reflown. Still a LONG pole for SpaceX.
  3. I appreciate that you are enthusiastic about your point, but you neglected to notice that I am SUPPORTING your point. The shuttle is not "fully" re-useable. I get what you are saying lol.
  4. I'd also like to mention that, apparently, SimplexResources - CryoTanks B9PS.cfg tries to modify the B9 Tank Type "ht2_02" from HabTech2 with empty brackets, which I have reason to suspect is causing the "ht2_02" tank type to become "undefined", causing a fatal error, which causes KSP to crash. !B9_TANK_TYPE[ht2_02]:NEEDS[HabTech2] { } // Check this NEEDS as it used to be FOR @PART[ht2_questPod]:FOR[HabTech2] { @MODULE[ModuleB9PartSwitch]:HAS[#moduleID[tankSwitch]] { @SUBTYPE[02] { @name = Air @tankType = KSAir @title = #simplexresources_air } } } For the time being, I've commented out the line with the empty brackets, though if any more such fatal errors pop up, then I may have to uninstall this mod.
  5. So by that definition there has not yet ever been any reusable space launch? (Except, I guess, Blue Origin's New Shepard? Or, perhaps the X-15 and the Virgin Galactic?)
  6. SLIM woke up again https://phys.org/news/2024-03-japan-moon-probe-survives-lunar.html | Https canonical: https://phys.org/news/2024-03-japan-moon-probe-survives-lunar.html
  7. Definition would be that what sat on the launchpad gets restacked (or whatever, might be SSTO), and reflown with no major components having to be new by design. The POINT of shuttle was to replace expendable LVs back in the day. That was the sales pitch. Regardless, you are arguing a straw man. I said 100% reusable. That means 100%, I didn;t say "largely reusable" or "partially reusable." So show me that Shuttle was 100% reused every launch, or you're making a nonsense argument.
  8. The Space Shuttle was a fully functioning small space station that could house more than half a dozen people for a week in orbit, and you are comparing it to the cost of a titan launch? Yes, an uncrewed reusable booster would have been cheaper for routine sat deliveries to orbit. Like most of crewed space flight, there is some question about whether it should even be done at all. The shuttle was designed to do everything for everyone, which usually doesn't end up making it ideal for anything or anyone. But the things you are complaining about here are ridiculous in terms of apples versus oranges.
  9. Last visited never lol.

  10. Necroing an old thread that I asked about a long time ago, but is there a proper fix? I want to make Raptor9 inspired blueprints so a blue background is needed
  11. The last External Tank contract was I think 2007. They were $172M each. In 2024 dollars that's $257M. So the only part thrown away cost ~2.5X the entire Starship launch stack. That's not what "reusable" means in this context. Loads of IDEAS are useful across many regimes. We're talking about a vehicle—and he's nit-picking when I EXPLICITLY said 100% reusable. So Shuttle definitionally does not count even if someone's definition of "reusable" includes Shuttle because he says in the reply except the external tank... so not 100% of Shuttle was reused—they are trying something completely new here. ^^^Point stands.
  12. To be a jerk nit-picker: The aerodymanic engineering of the shuttle airframe is definitely re-useable. The Soviets did it first, and now the Chinese and Indians have reused the shuttle design, because without hypothetical quantum CFD supercomputers, the airframe shape is as close to optimized as you can get for the mission.
  13. Beautiful vehicle, a marvel of engineering and an excellent first step towards rapid reusability and a sci-fi future, that we stuck with for decades and never got followed up with a second step. The bulk of the troubles people tend to have with it is the gap between what it was billed as being able to do and what it actually did. Most of its turnaround, reusability, and cost goals were never reached. I'm all for aiming high, but you can't get something that ambitious right on the first try. Going from Apollo to 2001: A Space Odyssey in one step was never going to work, but they tried to get close with the one try they were allowed. We ended up with something that was promising but not particularly revolutionary. Instead of iterating on the shuttle (well, they did minor iterations), we kept the same design for 30 years and never committed to properly funding replacements or upgrades until after it was gone. This was however largely a funding/political problem, though.
  14. I never said it wasn't fantastic—but it was not reusable in the sense that they are attempting with Starship (or even F9 boosters). Sorry, that's simply fact. $1.3B per flight is not a real reusable vehicle. When Shuttle was proposed, they literally talked about flying it enough to make it cheaper than Titan—which required a cadence of about 1 per week on the nominal budget... that in the real world flew just a few times a year. I don't care how many parts were "reused," it needs to result in cheaper use, and higher cadence or it's a waste of time. It must be economical to reuse. That's ACTUAL reuse. Cars are reusable. Planes are reusable. Ships are reusable. Shuttle wasn't. Orion isn't, DRAGON isn't, either. They are refurbishable.
  15. Lol, I heard there is a user named "Endoscientist" who hangs around on a Blue Origin fan forum and actually gives them useful advice
  16. Why do people in this forum continue to take potshots at the Space Shuttle? It was a fantastic system, that absolutely pioneered the practical reuse of space vehicles. Nearly every part of a shuttle was reused -- the only thing that wasn't was the external tank.
  17. Oh man, I remember that one! Still waiting for it
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  19. Thanks Jade I look forward to reading what you have to write!
  20. As of right now final flight of the Delta 4 Heavy is GO for launch in under 5 minutes! 134003282024 and clocks stopped and back to T-4:00 and holding due to a redline fault. At T-03:58 134303282024 Scrubbed. 24 Hour Recycle 134603282024
  21. @AtomicTech I got you covered. And the use of B9 Part Switch is a must (I personally don't write part upgrades that don't involve it)
  22. Just had a coworker leave for another job. It's gonna be rough being down a person for the forseable future. Due to the nature of my work, there is no such thing as 2 weeks notice. We deal with customer data and communications, so once a person says they are on their way out, they are pretty much given their exit interview and escorted out. It took me 2 months to go through hiring. That's not including the time they collected applications. I JUST TODAY got the reproduction NASA style toggle switches for my KSP instrument panel... Just today... The day after I learn my workload is going to increase 50%, and my free time is probably going to lithobrake into the Mun...
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