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20 minutes ago, DirtyFace83 said:
'Empty all '$resource$' resources in all parts of this vessel'
This would make quite a long context menu with a lot of items no one uses. Was just looking in the saves I got from others, there is one with 'Supplies', but none hase something like 'Waste'. Ist that how it's called? Maybe add empty for this resource only?
7 minutes ago, Tacombel said:In other cases you can dump what you want with tools like hyperedit, Crew manifest or TAC fuel manager. No need to edit the save.
That's an argument, that it would not be worth to include in KML.
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11 minutes ago, DirtyFace83 said:
How difficult/time consuming would it be to add a 'Empty all resources' function that basically works inversely to how the 'Refill' works?
I don't think anyone wants to empty all resources, only that one specific waste resource. I'm not used to life support, is this one resource of many in a single part? Or is it one part per resource?
I would suggest that you use the refill all feature and then go to the waste part and change the numbers manually. Just go down to the RESOURCE node unter the PART and change to "amount = 0".
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There is this thread with details:
Could you report the warnings from KML?
Also you could upload your save file, so that experts might hava a look. Maybe the original one plus your current one.
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21 minutes ago, Ramón said:
contract in which an antenna must be attached to a stelite and it has not been validated
Here some similar issues were solved (TLDR: Save file corrupted, must be fixed by text editor or KML tool):
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1 minute ago, Tacombel said:
Just to check, you do a save, change it with KML and load again, all without exiting KSP, right?
Yes, that's what I do. In KSP just a normal F5 to quicksave.sfs, open that file in KML, overwrite it with KML (you'll get a message and it also creates a backup file, does it?), do F9 in KSP.
In that case it doesn't even matter if you pause KSP, as it never overwrites quicksave.sfs on its own. That's what you have to keep in mind about persistence.sfs.
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I made this test craft.
The solar panels are from top to bottom:
rotation = 0,0,0,1
rotation = -1.54268047E-08,1.17178317E-07,-0.130526081,0.991444886
rotation = 0,0.130526081,0,-0.991444886
rotation = 0.130526081,0,0,-0.991444886Your Quaternion Converter (zachbennett.com) seems to work:
x, y, z = 180, 180, 0 (didn't rotate capsule and tank, seems to have mounted the panels on the west side, while east would be y = 0)
x, y, z = 165, -180, 0 (x is the angle w.r.t. ground here and -180 shouldn't make any difference from +180)
x, y, z = 180, 165, 0 (changed heading y)
x, y, z = 180, 180, -15 (rotated along the expansion axis of the panel)Ok then let's invent some new rotation, e.g. now pointing 45° upward:
x, y, z = 135, 180, 0
This converts to:
rotation = 0,0,0.38268,-0.92388
Which I did set to all panels via KML. Saved in KML, reloaded in KSP:
Works!
1 hour ago, Tacombel said:The only thing I can think of is that one of the other parameters is kind of a checksum.
No it's not.
So lets fall back to the basic questions: Is your power cable plugged in?
Did you really save in KML? Did you really reload in KSP? 
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But somewhere the orientation of parts has to be stored and loaded from. And I don't see any other suspects. Need more research.
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3 minutes ago, Tacombel said:
Don't know what is happening, but changing the rotation parameter has no effect.
Did you try changing any of the three vector entries independently?
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1 hour ago, Tacombel said:
I thought it would be an absolute reference.
Actually, I don't know. I went so far to replace parts with similar ones (liquid only tank vs. L+O), but considered messing around with position and rotation as too cumbersome. So if I plan to attach something via KIS or the new vanilla feature, I would try to rely on node attachment. But now we have that vanilla feature, probably even more peoply try things like that and I see the need for doing some additional precise number correction. So please report your research results
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45 minutes ago, Tacombel said:
I added a module to my muna base using KIS, but I couldn't get it properly aligned, so I edited the ship with KML and pasted the rotation parameter from the parent, but nothing changed. Ideas?
You found the 'PART' that you added and changed its 'rotation' attribute? Probably doesn't make sense to use the value from its parent but have to play around alot (some maths might help), and also very likely have to mess with the 'position' attribute as well. But you should definitely notice some changes, when you look at the right part and also actually did load your changes back into KSP (I always edit quicksaves, easiest to let KSP run and load after you're done in KML).
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5 hours ago, Krazy1 said:
salvage my savegame from 1.10 to work in 1.11.
Nice tutorial
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20 minutes ago, HebaruSan said:
Yes, but also no. The forum ignores or re-writes anything after the thread ID, a dash, and one more character. So if the title changes, new links will look different, but old links still work. For example, CKAN commonly exploits this to truncate links, like this:
3 minutes ago, Gargamel said:Yes, as @HebaruSansaid, and I recently confirmed for myself, the thread is identified by the dash, not the title name. So your links should still work.
Ok, then I removed just one character too many in my test
Good to know, thank you!
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I just updated my KML in the tools subsection: https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/133971-win-kml-persistence-file-editor/ (need to show the real URL because that's my problem)
Well, the title "[WIN] KML - Persistence file editor" says it's a Windows tool. With the latest release I just added a CLI version, that also runs on Mono, so the Linux and Mac users are now welcome. The full version with GUI still is Windows only. So I'm not fully decided if to change the title or not.
But the main problem I think about is: IF I change the title, then also the URL changes (right?). And of course I linked to the forum entry on GitHub, the README and within the application itself... Is there any way to link to the thread by ID only (the obvious try didn't work)? Then I could change all my dependencies and when that is done I might think about changing the title
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I just released the KML version that can help fixing this.
Still the main idea of this post was not to be an ad, but to get some more feedback from anyone else with similar problems and I might extend the check and repair functions based on that
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I included a check and automatic repair for problems like this in my KML save editor.
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I included a check and automatic repair for problems like this in my KML save editor.
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I just released v0.9, see OP.
Finally there is some support for Linux and Mac users, but for now it ist only a CLI and no GUI. Download the KML_Mono.zip in that case. Windows users can use the CLI as well, of course. Get the combined GUI and CLI version with KML_Windows.zip. To learn more about CLI, check the COMMANDLINE.md introduction.
There was some trouble recently about IDs being broken in certain contracts, so I included some checks and automatic repairs for that.
This is now fixed as well, thanks for that again:
On 4/12/2020 at 8:35 PM, Krazy1 said:You probably know this but it gives warnings for Kerbals sitting in external command chairs "part not attached to parent part" but I just ignored those.
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Ok with some guess work I managed to fix the VesselRepairContract with my unreleased build of KML. There is no need to have ID attributes directly in the CONTRACT node, the attributes within the PARAM node are sufficient. Just a typical kerbal test procedure:
- built a new "not really a satellite" probe with antenna
- tried to break the antenna while driving around, didn't get it done
- placed a solar panel, broke that, wanted to copy the state over to the antenna
- figured out that I had the wrong antenna
- used KML to replace (rename) the antenna to the correct one and change that to broken
- renamed the probe to the name given in the contract
- used KML to repair the contract, automatically figuring out the vessel and part IDs from the given names
- realized I had no engineer ready, hired a new one
- wondered why I always think of elderly males when I encounder "...dorf Kerman" and find a female
- tried not to forget a repair kit, checked there are some in the rover storage
- drove the engineer over to the probe
- forgot to leave chute and jetpack at home, messing around a bit to make place for the repair kit
- realized my engineer is a noob and lacks the skill to repair the antenna
- used KML to copy the career and flight log from another level 1 kerbal, now she has skill
- fixed the antena with the engineer
- nice green checkboxes on the contract, heureka!
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There is even more confusion about those "repair part X on vessel Y" contracts (type = VesselRepairContract). I also need to know what part is referred to by ID. Again I don't know how the attribute is called on the contract side (directly under the CONTRACT tag, I do know how it is called under the PARAM (RepairPartParameter) section). Additionally I don't know what ID on the part side it refers to. There is a "uid", "mid" (seems to be = uid) and a "persistentId" (!= uid). For vessels there is only a "persistentId" (in my 1.11 to 1.11.1 save) that is used in correct contracts. For parts I only found a "recover part from orbit" (type = RecoverAsset) contract, that seems to be intact, and that one uses the part's "uid".
Has anyone ever finished a "repair part X on vessel Y" contract? Maybe only whithout leaving the game between accepting and finishing (maybe in works in RAM, but fails as soon as the save is considered).
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It seems broken contracts are a problem that existed for long (I remember around 1.3 I had a "build base on asteroid" contract, that could never be finished) and recently new incarnations of similar problems are created (I had a "attach antenna to satellite" problem). Here are two recent examples with good explanation of the savefile content and how to solve:
In my recent save I now encountered a "repair antenna of satellite" contract. I suppose this is one where you need a repair kid, never done any of those. But again, the save is messed up: The contract points to no vessel ID at all, and the mentioned vessel name refers to no existing vessel as well. It seems the satellite has never been created in the first place.
Well, there is a way to solve this (except alt+f12): Create another satellite and make the IDs match. But since my contract data is already erroneous, I would need to know, how the contract likes to call the ID.
- For a rover construction contract, it is called "roverVslId" (see first link)
- For a satellite construction contract it is called "constructionVslId" (see second link)
- For a repair contract it is called "..."?
Also since I'm the developer of the KML savegame editor, I'd like to include some checks and fixes about contracts in the next upcoming version, so that any players not so keen about text file editing, get a tool at hand. So any more details and other known problems with such excellent descriptions like the above are very welcome
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I had a similar issue with an "attach antenna to satellite" contract. Since I know a good SFS editor, the problem was easily fixed
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43 minutes ago, LUCINNDA said:
Hi. I need some help that help me to work with KLM. I dont undestand the "Atribute" abbreviations like: hgt, nrm, rot, CoM, stg... etc. Are there any guide about it?
Well, that's a general question of how does KSP store its data. There are lots of attributes, and what they mean mostly depends on the node type they are in. There is a set of attributes, that describe a part, and a different set of attributes to describe a vessel, a kerbal, a contract etc.
Often you can guess the abbreviations when you know the details of KSP. "rot" probably describes by a vector, in what orientation / rotation a part is mounted to it's parent, or in which general direction a vessel is currently looking. "CoM" is center of mass.
If you see something that you seem to understand, then change it to you liking (name of a kerbal, amount of ressource for some cheating, change path to flag for each individual part, ...). But you really should not mess around with those randomly, only when you have an idea what it is about
After all KML is just a wrapped text editor, and there can appear any string you like. You can even add your own attributes, but I have seen that KSP drops anything that doesn't belong there when it loads and later saves such a file.
The KSP API documentation is also not very helpful about this. Here for example a vessel: Kerbal Space Program: ProtoVessel Class Reference
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12 hours ago, MacLuky said:
Looks neat! can we also get a mac version or is this Windows only?
I'm sorry, it's Windows only. Maybe it runs in Wine.
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When you say
2 hours ago, Lisias said:Users are being affected by a collection of bugs, not only by one.
then you can not argue like
2 hours ago, Lisias said:at least 25% (5% of B and 20% of C) of the user base
because the percentages don't just add up.
If you want the users affected by B or C (or both "B and C") then the overall percentage is
P(B or C) = P(B) + P(C) - P(B and C)
Kerbal Space Program 1.11.2 is live!
in 2021
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I was quickly assembling a space plane with my son, yesterday. It was really strange
This was the first thing I did in KSP after some weeks of abstinence, while in the meantime I did update from 1.11.1 to 1.11.2. It totally did work fine before. So is that introduced by 1.11.2?