Minmus Taster

Only two years? Lucky, we waited three and a half for a game that was arguably worse at release. We're coming up on four years of public development and we get this. Not to be inflammatory but I think we've been more then patient in comparison to other communities for a result like this.

This is going to be a somewhat emotional response more then a logical one. Feel free to merge this into another thread, I have a feeling I'm not the only one who's going to make one of these. I remember first watching the trailer for KSP2 in 2019. I don't know if I knew KSP even existed at the time, and if I did I only ever knew it as the simulator I'd watch people doing heavily modded missions in on YouTube. I still remember watching a video someone made on a crewed flight to Pluto in RSS. I remember finally being able to play the first game on a work laptop, when exactly I can't remember but I remember becoming hooked to it. Through the pandemic years I would play it instead of attending most of my online classes, probably not good for my education but I have no regrets. All the while I, like many others, waited for any good news on the second games development. The trailer also introduced me to M83, now a favorite band of mine. To say the current situation hit hard is an understatement. Especially since it seemed like there may have been hope for the game to recover from its launch. As corny as it sounds Kerbal really did help me through a hard time in my life and many others through a low period in our history. I wanted and still want this series and this game to survive and give us all a chance to keep having new experiences for years to come. Not to mention introducing new fans to the games. I still want to believe so badly that this will somehow pan out but with almost no proper communication and the writing seemingly on the wall I think this is the end of the road for Kerbal 2. Maybe I'll be proven wrong and I definitely want to be but I don't think I will. I just wanted to make this post to say how much this world means to me. That being the community that grew around this game. Speculating on the game and all the things we'll be able to do when it finally releases (and becomes playable) has genuinely been some of the most fun I've had online. I just wanted to get my feelings on this out, I seems I'm not the only frustrated one. But I love this community that we've all become a part of and it's a good feeling to know that through all this we've (mostly) had each other's backs. I look forward to all our usual tomfoolery in the first game if push really has come to shove here.

Can't post the image for some reason but I just saw a chart on the games reviews. It's.. hard to look at I don't like the feel of the "response" beyond being purposefully vague it gives off "break up" language.

Some notes from Dakota in the Discord: -Server and Forum are fine for now. -They don't know or can't give an answer to the *cough* questions *cough* people have asked.

That's not all dead, just "mostly" dead. If it was all dead we'd be going through its pockets for loose change The first stage of grief is denial

I'm not sure what to think. I want to have confidence that they'll finish the game or at least make it playable but community trust is still quite low. I don't think it will be totally canceled, they're in too deep and they have the chance to recoup losses if they actually release it. That being said I doubt we'll get much of the planned features past maybe a buggy version of colonies. I would love to be proven wrong but I'll believe it when I see it. https://twitter.com/KerbalSpaceP/status/1785788809613082732

Oh boy here we go again, he's in charge of SpaceX only because he's got the money and not because he has any good ideas. Other then that he has no bearing on the operations of SpaceX, the only time I think he's ever influenced a design is when he insisted Starships nose "needed to be pointy", and do you really think that would have gone ahead if it was actually a big deal? Can we please stop finding ways to rope an argument about Elon Musk into this thread?

Created some basic graphs based on the information from the linked forum showing the exact location of the candidate site:

Image seems to be working now, interesting, it really doesn't look like a proper crash site to me. What I see is a crater, a bright spherical object (probably the lander) and some other debris. Assuming this is in fact Mars 6 is it possible it hard-landed but just slow enough for the probe's structure to remain intact? It was designed to be dropped after all. We'd also need to look at the general area for signs of the heatshield and parachute since the lander had already jettisoned those, which would require re-finding the candidate object.

Very interesting, though it seems that none of the links provided loaded properly. Are there any other sources you are aware of?

I've been wondering if it would be possible to locate the Soviet Mars 6 Lander on the Martian surface. A similar feat was accomplished around a decade ago when civilians discovered a likely candidate for the Mars 3 hardware. The fate of the Mars 6 Lander remains unknown to this day. Its parachute had deployed and everything seemed to be going as planned until contact was lost and never regained around the time the probe was supposed to make contact with the surface. Due to a fault in its computers most of the atmospheric data being transmitted was also useless. It's not known if the Lander made it to the ground intact or if it was destroyed, hopefully this can change soon. I'm looking for people who would be willing to take some time out of their day looking through MRO images to try and locate the Lander. The general location the probe was heading is known and a likely landing area was shared years ago but this will still be a difficult search with a good chance of turning up nothing. Nonetheless I thought it would be a fun community project if nothing else. If no one is able to assist in the search it would still be greatly appreciated if someone could explain to me how to access and look through MRO images in this area.

I've heard it's going to be guiding itself in from the side. Chopsticks will be facing away from vital equipment to minimize the risk. But it's certainly going to be interesting, worst case scenario we'll gat an especially spectacular crash.

Was just watching Real Engineerings video on Dragonfly and they mention that the drones roaters we're 1 meter across. A METER? How large is this thing? For some reason I've been picturing something microwave sized.

Wow, maybe taller/steeper mountains are common on smaller active worlds?

Wow, that is one heck of a mountain: No height exaggeration here, the Juno team calls it 'Steeple Mountain' and it's between 5 and 7 Kilometers high.

https://science.nasa.gov/missions/dragonfly/nasas-dragonfly-rotorcraft-mission-to-saturns-moon-titan-confirmed/

They need to just cancel the project, or hand it over to private companies entirely. By 2040 we'll have humans on mars, not to mention Tianwen 3 getting samples back over ten years earlier. Billions of dollars have gone into this ridiculous project and the money is better spent on Artemis, not that it's much better

How did you even find this thread?

Yeah the timelines are a little messy, I used launch windows from Wikipedia and didn't factor in how fast it would be going, by just eyeballing things on Space Engine the Quaoar probe would have to launch around 2033 but could also get Neptune gravity assist on it's way. Will probably make an updated version of this at some point. On an interesting note I found the second probe would have to launch around 2038 but there also seems to be a transfer window between Jupiter and Saturn, along with a good window for Haumea or Makemake... hmmm...

This has been known for a bit now but thought I should post this here: https://www.space.com/nasa-voyager-1-communications-breakdown-solved

Hello! I figured I would post this here as the topic of a dedicated Interstellar spacecraft has been one of much discussion for some time now and I wanted some feedback on a personal mission design of mine, specifically how realistic it is. This is based heavily on the "Interstellar Probe" concept proposed to NASA a couple years back. Please forgive my sloppy drawings The Spacecraft: Mission Profile:

Imagine a total eclipse above the Eduard Bohlen:

Got a large amount of darkening at our max coverage. Because there were clouds we could actually see the shadow pass next to us. An interesting upside to my circumstances.

Weather gods have truly spit in my face this time around. Dark grey clouds right when things get interesting.