SunlitZelkova

I’ve been thinking a lot about this thread and my responses for a while. I think building a Mars colony based on earthly ethics, laws, and societal structures is not a good long term backup for humanity. Such a Mars colony has an equal chance of destroying itself as Earth does. You could say, why not build lots of colonies then? Which brings us back to the idea capitalism will eventually facilitate the construction of a colony, which I believe is wrong… …because if we are going to dig underground anyways, we might as well do it on Earth with fallout shelters. If the goal is to backup humanity, it makes much more sense to build secure colonies on Earth instead of in space. From a business POV, of course. Why transport drills to Mars when you can build them on Earth and use them here? I would not be surprised if Elon has such a realization at some point, especially if the economy starts to go up and down, or international tensions get way worse. A Mars colony is just a really terrible way to save life on Earth, if the mindset of “the best part is no part” is being followed. Do away with the rockets and build shelters on Earth. Life being multi planetary doesn’t matter if the dome gets hit by a micrometeorite (or normal sized meteorite), and if you’re going underground, you might as well do it on Earth. It makes no economic sense to build a Mars colony based on our current economic philosophy. Therefore if we want to reach into space we need to change it. To elaborate on what I meant by this, by the way, it seems it was Thomas Hobbes- a philosopher, not an anthropologist or social scientist- who suggested humans must bow to authority or end up warring against each other. Humans are not automatons. We have the power to move beyond selfish impulses we are conditioned to have from birth- not naturally possess- and work together. Thus, partially for the memes, I put forward the idea of instead seeding a Mars colony with embryos and having them taught differently than Earthlings by robots instead of sending adult human colonists.

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What the man who made that comment is suggesting is that no one teach them at all. When he says “teach your stupid kids” he implies that the real reason people show signs of autism is because standard curriculum is flawed, not because they have a disorder. He suggests their condition does not even exist. If we really want to teach people to be more flexible about the world I suggest we get rid of autism as a diagnosis, because everyone could benefit from being more flexible in how they approach life.

I am skeptical 10-12 year olds being told they need to “get their act together because the world won’t be nice to you” is going to help them. Nor do I think it would help those younger than that. Your strategy may work for you as a high schooler/college student/adult/whatever age you are, but would it work for young children?

Is Bluey interesting and engaging for adolescents and/or adults too? I still watch The Backyardigans every now and then btw.

No, it is not bad, and yes, it is okay. Everyone needs a change of pace once in awhile. Know that your current tasks don’t last forever though. My philosophy is that a break of decent length is perfectly fine at some point, and it’s important to recognize one needs one, but the break should not quash school prospects or careers so long as one still has their heart set on accomplishing something in those arenas. If you have the luxury of pausing now, go ahead and pause, but if you don’t, I think you should wait until a more opportune time.

Yeah, don’t get me wrong, I recognize there are issues with the way diagnoses and treatment work, but pretending the problem doesn’t exist isn’t the answer either. I myself could have become a victim of misdiagnosis had I not had extreme paranoia over taking any medication during my middle school days. I was at fault too though, as I basically lied about my condition. It wouldn’t be until nearly a decade later that I opened up and doctors were able to make an accurate diagnosis.

It would loosely resemble this. I have no idea if it would be feasible to modify Starship to do that or not. Worst case scenario you could build a lander that looks like this and stick it on top, and use Starship as a space tug instead.

As much as this post disparages the idea of a Mars colony, I think one will come about one day. It will just be centuries from now, after violence and the “anything worth doing must be profitable” and “anything worth doing must benefit me personally or I won’t do it” mentalities have gone the way of slavery and cannibalism. I think these concepts of “colonies as resorts” are very poor and flawed, because that means that if the resort ceases to be profitable, everyone will pack up and leave. There were entire towns here along the Oregon coast that were prosperous as resorts in the late 1800s, but once the demand declined they couldn’t be maintained anymore. Today there is not a single trace of them remaining. To expand beyond a place where we don’t have to worry about securing the existence of the entire food supply or having breathable atmosphere will require a revolution in human thinking. Trying to do things by the current “needs to be profitable to be worthwhile” mentality just points in the direction of space colonization being not feasible at all.

I don’t know if you have kids that have disabilities in school or not, but that was not my experience in the early 2010s. In middle school, Special Ed was more focused on simply helping kids learn at that time. It was similar in high school. There was never any emphasis on whether that sort of thing could be applied to careers or not because K-12 has little to do with careers anyways. It’s all about the diploma. We were expected to take the learning strategies we received into college, so there was some sort of preparation for when the support would fade. These labels weren’t created for the heck of it. The kids actually have a disability and the logic goes is that the only reason we would realize they would have it is if they show trouble in school and it gets noticed that way. I don’t know what you experienced, but no one is forced into special ed. I simply got a 504 plan and then an IEP, but only during the worse (my condition was worse) later years did I attend special ed classes, and only after the two plans didn’t work. In the 2010s at least, the only people in special ed were those who really needed to be. There’s also an effort to promote tolerance and acceptance of people with disabilities. They aren’t just separated away from the normal kids, who then are left to their own devices to form opinions about the special ed people. Whether it’s working or not IDK. I personally never experienced any prejudice over it. There were classmates of mine with disabilities far more severe than mine, and perhaps they suffered prejudice, but I was not friends with them and kept to myself so I don’t know. I also have no idea what their futures will turn out to be. Their disabilities were so severe, that I feel that if their condition was not to improve, they were the kind of people who would require a caretaker or placement into a facility for the rest of their lives. I couldn’t see them managing a job even if they had heavy supports.

Shuttle derived is more about using existing components for political reasons (keeping contractors in key states busy) than actual performance reasons, IMO.

It’s a problem but they’re working on it. For those not in the know it’s a good introductory article. I don’t know how many people are silent readers in this thread. If there’s anyone visiting for the first time it will be good for them, but a number of us who have been following this stuff for years as it comes along are already aware of the challenges. Note that that article never suggests replacing Starship. It just talks about the challenges and questions the feasibility of a 2026 landing. It doesn’t question feasibility of any landing.

My mom sent me an article about Armani Williams, the first autistic NASCAR driver. It’s a very cool read for someone like me with my own mental disability. Something catches my eye below the Facebook post with the link. Facebook calls it “the most relevant comment.” It says “most relevant is selected, some comments may have been filtered out.” It is written by a bigot, who believes autism and ADHD are “educational and parental cop-outs.” He tells people to “educate their stupid kids” because “the world isn’t going to tiptoe around them just because they have some weird habits.” And then there is another “most relevant comment.” It’s a racist bit by the same guy. Armani is one of the few black NASCAR drivers. Odd timing, because I have been trying to combat my depression by doing an “informational detox” and reducing the number of my world building projects I work on as hobbies, and decreasing my use of social media, among other things. One thing I was debating at the time was whether the internet should have existed or not. The sole project I’m now working on is an alternate history where the USSR lands on the Moon first. I’m pretty convinced the world would be better off without the internet. So long as big companies like Meta and Twitter use algorithms that amplify the bad people speaking out on it, and together with the need for “buzz” to get advertising revenue, sane and moderate discourse is passed over in favor of extremes on either side of the argument that enrage people and gain more clicks, the internet will have proven to be more negative than positive. For me, of course. Others are entitled to their opinions. Luckily the internet is pretty easy to erase from my timeline. Because the Space Race continues, it will be pretty easy to cut funding for it sometime in the mid 70s and prevent it from becoming a major thing. P.S. I feel a lot of the strife in my life and those of my generation would be prevented if there was no internet. I feel I made the right decision as a kid beginning middle school to forgo video games and cell phones, even as people around me played Minecraft and posted on Instagram. Once I started to use them after moving away to another city, in order to try and communicate with them, my depression increased and I became very volatile. I feel that the record breaking mental health crisis among youth would be greatly lessened if not eliminated if the internet did not exist. My cousin has three kids. One is just a baby but the other two are just starting schooling. They’re already addicted to games and streaming children’s shows that my cousin shows them on her phone. I look at them and just think this world is doomed.

I’d be skeptical these can be called delays when Artemis has never had a realistic timeline to begin with. When it began, the first landing was scheduled for 2024- a purely political date. Instead of reassessing a choosing a realistic goal, they have only been moving milestones back by a year at a time as new issues in development come to light. Meanwhile, SLS has been delayed for years, as tater described. According to the original plan, EM-1 (Artemis I) would be in 2016, and then EM-2 (Artemis II) would be in 2018. I think a landing in 2025 or 2026 would have been achievable if Artemis had kicked off in 2017 or so. At that time NASA was still planning for the silly ARM mission. Apollo the Moon landing program began in 1961 and landed in 1969. Roughly 8 years. Artemis began in 2019, so a better date would be 2027 or 2028 (the latter of which is Ars Technica’s predicted date).

Incorrect, IMO. SLS is the primary source of delays. Artemis I was originally scheduled for November 2021 but was pushed back by a year due to delays. We might have been closer to Artemis II if it weren't for the delays between the rocket's inception circa 2011 and the completion of the first vehicle in 2021. I would bet $1000, that yes they were. It's well known NASA and SpaceX have had good communication with each other on HLS development progress. There is no evidence they did this, but if they did, then I believe SpaceX would inform NASA.