[1.12.x] USI Life Support

Dragonking · February 12, 2022

Ive been having issues getting this mod to work,i havent played KSP for a couple years and just came back to it,i put the newest version of the mod i could find(112.0.1-bleeding-edge.1)into the USI folder but the actual life support isnt there,the parts and resources from the mod are there though.Ive already tried a couple things like putting the files from source into gamedata as well or using older US-LS versions,but nothing works.Im using KSP 1.12.3,also what might be causing it is I havent been able to install USI Tools,i have no idea how to do it correctly,the folder doesnt seem to contain anything that can be put into GameData

Edited February 12, 2022 by Dragonking

Kalalicious · February 12, 2022

Hello there! First, I really enjoy what USI Life Support adds to the game, requiring more strategic mission planning and craft design. :cool:

So, on to my question. This is my first save using USI-LS, and I'm finding that my Kerbalnauts-turned-tourists, do not return to active after resupply. To be more specific, this can include a fully docked resupply craft (dock-o-tron Sr. mostly) with plenty of additional supplies and possibly additional life support modules as well. The USI-LS info block will show they have dozens or hundres of days of additional supplies , habitat is indefinite, electricity is abundant, etc. However, the Kerbalnauts stay in tourist mode. Any thoughts on why that may be? Did I forget a complementary addon? A setting I didn't set? Any advice would be appreciated.

I have USI Life Support, Core, and Tools installed from USI. I have a number of other mods as well, mostly visual, but I'll list them all below for perusal if desired, but I've added some of these (like MkI2and Mk3 extended parts lists) after I first had this issue. I've really just been sitting on this issue for a month or more as I've worked around it by .... simply ignoring the issue.

Thanks for any help!

My installed mod list:

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DoktorKrogg · February 13, 2022

On 2/12/2022 at 9:06 AM, Dragonking said:

Ive been having issues getting this mod to work,i havent played KSP for a couple years and just came back to it,i put the newest version of the mod i could find(112.0.1-bleeding-edge.1)into the USI folder but the actual life support isnt there,the parts and resources from the mod are there though.Ive already tried a couple things like putting the files from source into gamedata as well or using older US-LS versions,but nothing works.Im using KSP 1.12.3,also what might be causing it is I havent been able to install USI Tools,i have no idea how to do it correctly,the folder doesnt seem to contain anything that can be put into GameData

USITools is a requirement for pretty much all USI mods. The latest USI-LS release is actually bleeding-edge.2 and can be found on the Releases page of the USI-LS GitHub repo here: https://github.com/UmbraSpaceIndustries/USI-LS/releases. There are 3 download links under Assets:

USI-LS_112.0.1-bleeding-edge.2.zip <-- this is the one you want
Source code (zip)
Source code (tar.gz)

When you open or extract the .zip file, there will be a single folder inside called GameData and some text files. You need to copy the entire contents of the GameData folder from the .zip file into the KSP GameData folder. The resulting folder structure should look something like this:

[Root KSP folder]
- GameData
  - 000_USITools <-- required
  - CommunityCategoryKit <-- required
  - UmbraSpaceIndustries <-- required
    - FX
    - LifeSupport
  - ModuleManager4.x.x.dll <-- required, whatever the latest version is
  - Squad
  - SquadExpansion
  - [... any other mods you have installed]

Dragonking · February 15, 2022

Ive managed to get help from somewhere else now,my problem was that i wasnt able to find the correct version,i was getting to the github from the old USI website,the site that that directs to doesnt have anything in releases,only in tags,and the version that was there didnt include USI tools or any of the other dependencies,so it was mostly a website issue,but thanks for the help

Edited February 15, 2022 by Dragonking

SkyFall2489 · February 21, 2022

I have a question.

I'm using USI-LS's ModuleLifeSupportRecycler, set up to require constant Ore input and 100% efficiency. Will this cause any issues, such as divide by 0?

RoverDude · February 22, 2022

4 hours ago, SkyFall2489 said:

I have a question.

I'm using USI-LS's ModuleLifeSupportRecycler, set up to require constant Ore input and 100% efficiency. Will this cause any issues, such as divide by 0?

Doubtful tbh, give it a shot and see if you get spammed by NREs

SkyFall2489 · February 23, 2022

On 2/21/2022 at 5:34 PM, RoverDude said:

Doubtful tbh, give it a shot and see if you get spammed by NREs

Seems like ModuleLifeSupportRecycler is no longer in use, replaced by USILS_LifeSupportRecyclerSwapOption. The old module does not do anything. However, a lot of USI-LS compatibility patches in other mods still use the old modules. I wrote a patch to replace them.

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@PART[*]:HAS[@MODULE[ModuleResourceConverter_USI,ModuleLifeSupportRecycler]]:NEEDS[USILifeSupport]:FOR[USILifeSupport]:FINAL
{
   !MODULE[ModuleLifeSupport] {}
   MODULE
   {
       name = USI_SwapController
   }
   MODULE
   {
       name = USI_SwappableBay
       bayName = Bay 1
       moduleIndex = 0
   }
   MODULE
   {
       name = USI_Converter
       UseSpecialistBonus = false
   }
   @MODULE[ModuleLifeSupportRecycler]
   {
       @name = USILS_LifeSupportRecyclerSwapOption
   }
   @MODULE[ModuleResourceConverter_USI]
   {
       @name = USI_ConverterSwapOption
   }
}

SkyFall2489 · February 24, 2022

Would it be possible to replace the current USI_LS ISRU Fertilizer patch with a slightly different one, that changes all ISRUs, including mod parts, by cloning the ModuleResourceConverter for Monoprop?

Look at SimpleConstruction, that mod does something similar to make Metal from Ore in all ISRUs.

RoverDude · February 24, 2022

33 minutes ago, SkyFall2489 said:

Would it be possible to replace the current USI_LS ISRU Fertilizer patch with a slightly different one, that changes all ISRUs, including mod parts, by cloning the ModuleResourceConverter for Monoprop?

Look at SimpleConstruction, that mod does something similar to make Metal from Ore in all ISRUs.

You're welcome to do it with a module manager patch, but that's too much of a destructive patch to include in the mod.

SkyFall2489 · February 25, 2022

28 minutes ago, RoverDude said:

You're welcome to do it with a module manager patch, but that's too much of a destructive patch to include in the mod.

Here is my patch:

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PART[*ISRU*]:NEEDS[USILifeSupport]:FOR[USILifeSupport]
{
   +MODULE[ModuleResourceConverter]:HAS[#ConverterName[Mono*]]
   {
       @ConverterName = Fertilizer
       @StartActionName = Start ISRU [Ore -> Fertilizer]
       @StopActionName = Stop ISRU [Ore -> Fertilizer]
       @OUTPUT_RESOURCE:HAS[#ResourceName[MonoPropellant]]
       {
           @ResourceName = Fertilizer
           @Ratio /= 200
           %DumpExcess = False
       }
   }
}

If this is put into A CFG in GameData, and the patch for the 1.25m ISRU is removed, the ConverterName should stay the same, so saves won't be broken, and the multipliers are set so that the 1.25m ISRU has the exact same flow rates as it did before. The action names stay the same, too.

SkyFall2489 · February 25, 2022

Wait, for some reason, that patch doesn't work...

Gibster · April 11, 2022

Are there any good guides/explanations on how habitation/home works? I broadly understand it, I just want to know what the precise mechanics are and what it's affected by.

One of the things that I am thinking about is long term stays at other planets with stations that are constructed ahead of time and I am trying to think of how to engineer my shuttles that'll take them there and back. How are Kerbals affected when they're transferred from a station outfitted with lots of habitation for multiple years to a shuttle with enough habitation to get them back to Kerbin from Duna?

QuantumS1ngularity · April 14, 2022

Hello!

The download link doesn't work for me, the github page says "There aren't any releases here".

https://imgur.com/a/oDbZjsf

RoverDude · April 14, 2022

11 minutes ago, QuantumS1ngularity said:

Hello!

The download link doesn't work for me, the github page says "There aren't any releases here".

https://imgur.com/a/oDbZjsf

https://github.com/UmbraSpaceIndustries/USI-LS/releases

(Use the latest unstable release - it's very stable and the next shipping version).

Snowy1237 · May 2, 2022

Hello.

I have an issue where clicking on the green cube toolbar icon does not have any effect while flying a vessel, and the USI related toolbar buttons seem to be duplicating every so often.

EDIT: https://easyupload.io/uie0s0 (logs)

Edited May 2, 2022 by Snowy1237

RoverDude · May 2, 2022

44 minutes ago, Snowy1237 said:

Hello.

I have an issue where clicking on the green cube toolbar icon does not have any effect while flying a vessel, and the USI related toolbar buttons seem to be duplicating every so often.

EDIT: https://easyupload.io/uie0s0 (logs)

KSP Version. USI-LS Version. Screenshot of GameData folder.

Snowy1237 · May 2, 2022

KSP version: Kerbal Space Program - 1.12.3.3173 (latest steam download then cloned by CKAN)
USI-LS version: latest experimental
screenshots separated into three, because the folder is pretty big: https://easyupload.io/m/e3vk78

RoverDude · May 2, 2022

2 hours ago, Snowy1237 said:

KSP version: Kerbal Space Program - 1.12.3.3173 (latest steam download then cloned by CKAN)
USI-LS version: latest experimental
screenshots separated into three, because the folder is pretty big: https://easyupload.io/m/e3vk78

At a loss with that many mods. My suggestion is to start with a clean install, install the USI stuff, then begin installing other mods till you hit the conflict.

Snowy1237 · May 2, 2022

Thank you!

damerell · May 3, 2022

The OP still links to the releases page for the now disused BobPalmer github repo.

ArthritisGuy · May 6, 2022

Hey there! This isn't super important, but why is the bleeding edge released called "BleedingEdge"? That seems like a strange name lol. How do orbital logistics work in MKS? I'm quite new to modding KSP, so its a tad intimidating. USI-LS seems simple enough, but not too simple. I'd also like to add MKS to add some challenge

modus · May 6, 2022

@ArthritisGuyyou can always start with https://github.com/UmbraSpaceIndustries/MKS/wiki

Grimmas · May 6, 2022

1 hour ago, ArthritisGuy said:

Hey there! This isn't super important, but why is the bleeding edge released called "BleedingEdge"? That seems like a strange name lol.

It's an evolution of cutting edge. Bleeding edge is so extremely cutting edge that you might cut yourself and start bleeding (probably because of all the bugs) :-)

modus · May 6, 2022

Except there aren't that many bugs

It's more like blunt release.

ArthritisGuy · May 6, 2022

That's awesome lmao.

17 minutes ago, Grimmas said:

Bleeding edge is so extremely cutting edge that you might cut yourself and start bleeding (probably because of all the bugs) :-)

Actually, I can see this going the other way--makin the bugs bleed lol. Thanks a ton, I'll start with USI-LS and move my way to MKS, just so I have the hang of USI-LS

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