AckSed Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Here's the thing: with the advent of Vast and other space station makers, we could make Mars Cyclers. An artificial-gravity ship is just a space station with ambitions. And a space station is a steel/aluminium can of atmosphere surrounded with MMOD protection and solar panels. I've always been in favour of solar-electric MET thrusters and water propulsion, as the propellant doubles as radiation shielding and life-support. Heavy-lift makes both of this possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted Friday at 03:09 PM Share Posted Friday at 03:09 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted Friday at 03:26 PM Share Posted Friday at 03:26 PM Already at entry burn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted Friday at 05:40 PM Share Posted Friday at 05:40 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthgently Posted Friday at 07:58 PM Share Posted Friday at 07:58 PM More confirmation, like it is needed, fwiw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted Friday at 08:18 PM Share Posted Friday at 08:18 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Steve Posted Friday at 11:53 PM Share Posted Friday at 11:53 PM The odds that I will be in the right place at the right time have gone up significantly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted Saturday at 12:47 AM Share Posted Saturday at 12:47 AM 53 minutes ago, Ultimate Steve said: The odds that I will be in the right place at the right time have gone up significantly. TX? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Steve Posted Saturday at 12:54 AM Share Posted Saturday at 12:54 AM 1 minute ago, tater said: TX? Yes. Moving down to Texas for work. With an extra 1.5-2 days of driving, I might be able to be in the Brownsville area on the 26th and the 27th. Possibly the 28th as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthgently Posted Saturday at 01:11 AM Share Posted Saturday at 01:11 AM 7 minutes ago, Ultimate Steve said: Yes. Moving down to Texas for work. With an extra 1.5-2 days of driving, I might be able to be in the Brownsville area on the 26th and the 27th. Possibly the 28th as well. TX is a very big state and Brownsville is way down in a corner so plan accordingly if you aren’t specifically moving near there. The distance from Dallas to Boca Chica is about the same as Norfolk, Virginia to Cape Canaveral in Florida Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Steve Posted Saturday at 01:12 AM Share Posted Saturday at 01:12 AM Just now, darthgently said: TX is a very big state and Brownsville is way down in a corner so plan accordingly if you aren’t specifically moving near there. The distance from Dallas to Boca Chica is about the same as Norfolk, Virginia to Cape Canaveral in Florida I am well aware, we have the driving durations planned out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthgently Posted Saturday at 01:26 AM Share Posted Saturday at 01:26 AM (edited) 14 minutes ago, Ultimate Steve said: I am well aware, we have the driving durations planned out. Excellent, I hope you all have a great time. I wasn’t meaning to be condescending, just a sincere and friendly caution having seen some taken aback. On another note, the Riverwalk in San Antonio, if you get the chance and haven’t been there, is very unique with a lot of restaurant choices if it fits your travels or maybe on another trip. Edited Saturday at 01:26 AM by darthgently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted Saturday at 03:34 AM Share Posted Saturday at 03:34 AM 2 hours ago, darthgently said: Excellent, I hope you all have a great time. I wasn’t meaning to be condescending, just a sincere and friendly caution having seen some taken aback. On another note, the Riverwalk in San Antonio, if you get the chance and haven’t been there, is very unique with a lot of restaurant choices if it fits your travels or maybe on another trip. Yeah, that place is awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted Saturday at 05:43 PM Share Posted Saturday at 05:43 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted Sunday at 01:34 AM Share Posted Sunday at 01:34 AM Hoping I can see this from home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted Sunday at 01:52 AM Share Posted Sunday at 01:52 AM Saw it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCgothic Posted Sunday at 10:11 AM Share Posted Sunday at 10:11 AM (edited) Interchangable launch mount is an extremely intriguing concept! Makes sense that it's potentially harder to turn around rapidly than a booster, getting exposed to that engine exhaust is no joke! Can't turn it around fast, limited in number of launch sites, multiple launch mounts per pad makes sense. Also interesting to hear that the launch mount at Pad A is likely to get demolished once B is operational. But if they build multiple mounts for Pad B, it'd be a lot faster to get Pad A back up and running again, as they'd only have to rebuild the foundation and flame trench and then donate one of Pad B's mounts. Edited Sunday at 10:13 AM by RCgothic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthgently Posted Sunday at 02:03 PM Share Posted Sunday at 02:03 PM 12 hours ago, tater said: Saw it! Vegas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted Sunday at 02:54 PM Share Posted Sunday at 02:54 PM 49 minutes ago, darthgently said: Vegas? Albuquerque! It's a 14 hour drive from here to Vandy! Maybe 850-900 miles as the crow flies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSchmuckatelli Posted Sunday at 07:24 PM Share Posted Sunday at 07:24 PM Dumb question - does "Installing the FTS" mean a fully live system? If so, why install the FTS inside a potentially critical piece of infrastructure like that building? I write this as a guy who was fairly comfortable handling and setting up explosives back in the day - but I have questions. Do they leave the mechanical/electronic triggers disconnected until a certain point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuessingEveryDay Posted Sunday at 08:39 PM Share Posted Sunday at 08:39 PM 1 hour ago, JoeSchmuckatelli said: Dumb question - does "Installing the FTS" mean a fully live system? If so, why install the FTS inside a potentially critical piece of infrastructure like that building? I write this as a guy who was fairly comfortable handling and setting up explosives back in the day - but I have questions. Do they leave the mechanical/electronic triggers disconnected until a certain point? Yeah, they don't connect the triggers until a few days before the launch. Even then, they are pretty stable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSchmuckatelli Posted Sunday at 08:51 PM Share Posted Sunday at 08:51 PM 9 minutes ago, GuessingEveryDay said: they don't connect the triggers until a few days before the launch I kind of figured that out as I was typing the question - but you never know. I've only ever seen "installing the FTS system". (Fun fact - we used to juggle, make bunny rabbits of and burn C-4 to freak out younger Marines during training.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted Sunday at 08:59 PM Share Posted Sunday at 08:59 PM 1 hour ago, JoeSchmuckatelli said: Dumb question - does "Installing the FTS" mean a fully live system? If so, why install the FTS inside a potentially critical piece of infrastructure like that building? I write this as a guy who was fairly comfortable handling and setting up explosives back in the day - but I have questions. Do they leave the mechanical/electronic triggers disconnected until a certain point? FWIW, on SLS I think they have to completely install it in the VAB, they can't get near it on the pad (because a multi-billion $ MLP doesn't have a gantry arm that goes to the FTS. For reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minmus Taster Posted Sunday at 11:30 PM Share Posted Sunday at 11:30 PM Flight 9 may include the first Starship catch, Booster 14 may also be reflown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSchmuckatelli Posted Sunday at 11:41 PM Share Posted Sunday at 11:41 PM 10 minutes ago, Minmus Taster said: Flight 9 may include the first Starship catch, Booster 14 may also be reflown. So - lets say they do decide to try for a catch of Ship back at Boca Chica... anyone got an idea what the descent plan looks like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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