Dres/Eeloo is large enough to be a planet

[RevanX_LSR]

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Eeloo is meant to be a Pluto analog. Thus, it would be a dwarf planet. The IAU considers a celestial a planet if it 1) is able to clear its orbit of any other debris, 2) is in Hydrostatic Equilibrium and 3) orbits a star, or multiple stars. Eeloo orbits the sun, is amongst the most spherical planets and has no asteroids in its orbit and thus can be considered a planet. However, this fails to account for the debris in their orbit which may not be simulated. Instead, we will be using a simple method: any body larger than Pluto in mass and orbiting the Sun will be considered a planet or Planetary mass, unless debris are simulated in their orbit.

Pluto has a mass of 2 miliearths, so if Eeloo has greater mass than that, it’s a planet. Eeloo has a mass of 21 milikerbins (or miliearths in IRL scale), so it is a planet. It would be bigger than the Moon in IRL scale, and would be exceptionally dense. Likewise, Dres has a mass of 6 milikerbins and is thus a planet by this definition. In fact, by this definition, Kerbin is not a planet due to the presence of the asteroid ring!

[UmbralRaptor]

Because of design choices/limitations (see eg: no n-body, more limited mass ranges outside of the comets/asteroids, and lack of formation history), I'm unconvinced that it makes sense to apply IAU designations to attempt such a classification. Like, I'm unsure that there's enough consideration that Jool is a somewhat light Saturn orbited by what amount to 3 terrestrial planets. Or Gilly is in absolute terms more massive than Phobos.

Body	Mass (kg)	Mass (Earths)	Body	Mass (kg)	Mass (Kerbins)
Sun	1.99E+30	3.33E+05	Kerbol	1.76E+28	3.32E+05
Mercury	3.30E+23	5.53E-02	Moho	2.53E+21	4.77E-02
Venus	4.87E+24	8.15E-01	Eve	1.22E+23	2.31E+00
			Gilly	1.24E+17	2.35E-06
Earth	5.97E+24	1.00E+00	Kerbin	5.29E+22	1.00E+00
Luna	7.35E+22	1.23E-02	Mun	9.76E+20	1.84E-02
			Minmus	2.65E+19	5.00E-04
Mars	6.42E+23	1.07E-01	Duna	4.52E+21	8.53E-02
Phobos	1.07E+16	1.78E-09	Ike	2.78E+20	5.26E-03
Deimos	1.48E+15	2.47E-10
Ceres	9.38E+20	1.57E-04	Dres	3.22E+20	6.08E-03
Jupiter	1.90E+27	3.18E+02	Jool	4.23E+24	8.00E+01
Io	8.93E+22	1.50E-02	Laythe	2.94E+22	5.56E-01
Europa	4.80E+22	8.04E-03	Vall	3.11E+21	5.87E-02
Ganymede	1.48E+23	2.48E-02	Tylo	4.23E+22	8.00E-01
Callisto	1.08E+23	1.80E-02	Bop	3.73E+19	7.04E-04
Himalia	4.20E+18	7.03E-07	Pol	1.08E+19	2.04E-04
Saturn	5.68E+26	9.52E+01
Titan	1.35E+23	2.25E-02
Pluto	1.30E+22	2.18E-03	Eeloo	1.11E+21	2.11E-02

[RevanX_LSR]

Eeloo is almost as large as Moho, so that’s something

3 hours ago, UmbralRaptor said:

Because of design choices/limitations (see eg: no n-body, more limited mass ranges outside of the comets/asteroids, and lack of formation history), I'm unconvinced that it makes sense to apply IAU designations to attempt such a classification. Like, I'm unsure that there's enough consideration that Jool is a somewhat light Saturn orbited by what amount to 3 terrestrial planets. Or Gilly is in absolute terms more massive than Phobos.

Body	Mass (kg)	Mass (Earths)	Body	Mass (kg)	Mass (Kerbins)
Sun	1.99E+30	3.33E+05	Kerbol	1.76E+28	3.32E+05
Mercury	3.30E+23	5.53E-02	Moho	2.53E+21	4.77E-02
Venus	4.87E+24	8.15E-01	Eve	1.22E+23	2.31E+00
			Gilly	1.24E+17	2.35E-06
Earth	5.97E+24	1.00E+00	Kerbin	5.29E+22	1.00E+00
Luna	7.35E+22	1.23E-02	Mun	9.76E+20	1.84E-02
			Minmus	2.65E+19	5.00E-04
Mars	6.42E+23	1.07E-01	Duna	4.52E+21	8.53E-02
Phobos	1.07E+16	1.78E-09	Ike	2.78E+20	5.26E-03
Deimos	1.48E+15	2.47E-10
Ceres	9.38E+20	1.57E-04	Dres	3.22E+20	6.08E-03
Jupiter	1.90E+27	3.18E+02	Jool	4.23E+24	8.00E+01
Io	8.93E+22	1.50E-02	Laythe	2.94E+22	5.56E-01
Europa	4.80E+22	8.04E-03	Vall	3.11E+21	5.87E-02
Ganymede	1.48E+23	2.48E-02	Tylo	4.23E+22	8.00E-01
Callisto	1.08E+23	1.80E-02	Bop	3.73E+19	7.04E-04
Himalia	4.20E+18	7.03E-07	Pol	1.08E+19	2.04E-04
Saturn	5.68E+26	9.52E+01
Titan	1.35E+23	2.25E-02
Pluto	1.30E+22	2.18E-03	Eeloo	1.11E+21	2.11E-02

 

[king of nowhere]

On 8/5/2023 at 6:23 AM, JNSQFan said:

Eeloo is meant to be a Pluto analog. Thus, it would be a dwarf planet. The IAU considers a celestial a planet if it 1) is able to clear its orbit of any other debris, 2) is in Hydrostatic Equilibrium and 3) orbits a star, or multiple stars. Eeloo orbits the sun, is amongst the most spherical planets and has no asteroids in its orbit and thus can be considered a planet.

does it make any difference? it's a celestial body you can land on in this game.

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However, this fails to account for the debris in their orbit which may not be simulated. Instead, we will be using a simple method: any body larger than Pluto in mass and orbiting the Sun will be considered a planet or Planetary mass, unless debris are simulated in their orbit.

 

why?

it's a completely arbitrary definition.

 

 

[RevanX_LSR]

3 hours ago, king of nowhere said:

does it make any difference? it's a celestial body you can land on in this game.

why?

it's a completely arbitrary definition.

 

 

tbh i mainly wrote this as an interesting observation, so I don’t really care either.