Bug Status [9/14]

[Dakota]

As an addendum for #8, #11, and #20: we believe that these issues may all be interconnected. However until we can confirm that they are related, we are going to leave them as individual reports. The team is investigating and if validated as dupes, we'll merge them and the next two issues (#21 and #22) would be bumped up for the next KERB Report, assuming the order does not change.

[Intercept Games]

Hi all! Welcome back to another K.E.R.B (Kerbal End-users Report Bugs) check-in! 

Patch v0.1.4 has been out for two weeks and we've seen reports of notable performance improvements from a significant portion of players who previously reported performance issues. There are a few recursive bugs that have popped up, but we've quickly identified them thanks to the work of our QA team and your community reports.

One of the most noteworthy updates here is that the team has recently implemented a potential additional fix for Orbital Decay. We hope to have more details to share in the next K.E.R.B. Report.

As always, we thank you for all of your contributions to the bug reports subforum. We've seen a lot more engagement over the past few weeks and we appreciate you all.

Have a good weekend,

The KSP Team

Current Top Issues: 

#	Bug	Status
1	Wobbly Rockets	Experimenting with short-term solutions
2	Orbital Decay	Testing potential fix
3	KSP calculating physics all at once	Investigating
4	Camera Resets Position Map View	Partially fixed, second fix in progress
5	Phantom forces when deploying landing legs/gear	Known issue, investigating
6	Massive framerate drop when looking at planet in low orbit
7	No trajectory lines in map view	Unable to repeatedly reproduce, need more info
8	Timewarp under Acceleration stops Engaging Properly after a certain amount of years have passed	See #11
9	Engine Plate Fairing Respawns after load or switching vessels
10	Reloading a save and switching vessels retracts the LV-2000 Trumpets nozzle	Investigating
11	Acceleration During Time Warp Doesn’t Work at Times	Investigating [see Dakota's note below]
12	Inconsistent Framerate During Launch	Investigating
13	Active Vessel Pulls Craft Close when in Timewarp	Original bug fixed, but found new reproduction. Investigating
14	SAS does not hold orientation during time warp	Investigating
15	Struts: ctrl+z in the VAB renders struts/fuel lines invisible, visual bug	Investigating
16	Surface Rendering Fragment Shaders Are Inefficient	Dupe of #6, will be merging
17	Velocity of Target Not Displayed as Relative to Target	Reported fixed by community, unable to reproduce, still investigating
18	Moving a radially attached part with a strut on it, break the game	Two separate issues, one with struts, one with symmetry. Investigating
19	Cannot create/edit a maneuver node when game is paused	Known, investigating solutions for this and other pause-related issues
20	Elliptical Solar Orbits Cause Timewarp Under Acceleration to Stop Producing Thrust	See #11

Note: this report is not fully representative of the work our team is focused on. This is just to provide insight into our progress on the most concerning issues to our community. Additionally, the lack of a status update does not imply a lack of importance or general progress - we just do not have anything to share at this time.

[dandoesstuff]

yay

[Stephensan]

sees alot of investigating... Seems we won't have these fixed in a while...

Hope to see news of 0.1.5 soon or videos, or something..

[The Diamond Gear]

I'm holding out hope that the planetary terrain rendering gets a significant optimization soon.

That's the only thing that's keeping me from playing the game in an enjoyable fashion, as my FPS gets more than cut in half when a planet or moon is in my view.

Doubts aside, things can only get better! The team has clearly shown that they're capable of fixing major issues with this game.

[PicoSpace]

Oh I think I have 1, 5, 6, 7, 9, 12, 12, 15, 18 in my KSP2 video I'm posting tomorrow!
Glad to see they are mostly being worked on, fingers crossed Patch 5 cleans the board of these bugs!

[ShadowDev]

for number 3 please don't make the fix be a physics range or simplification of the physics when out of a set range.

[PDCWolf]

I thought wobble was a "long term" thing? How come it is now approached with "short term solutions" ?

 

[Stephensan]

1 minute ago, The Diamond Gear said:

I'm holding out hope that the planetary terrain rendering gets a significant optimization soon.

That's the only thing that's keeping me from playing the game in an enjoyable fashion, as my FPS gets more than cut in half when a planet or moon is in my view.

Doubts aside, things can only get better! The team has clearly shown that they're capable of fixing major issues with this game.

we haven't seen any information nor post/follow up since of the original one really that has sticked in my mind.. besides "still working"

[PicoSpace]

11 minutes ago, PDCWolf said:

I thought wobble was a "long term" thing? How come it is now approached with "short term solutions" ?

 

Likely because its integrated physics engine framework that is core element of the game, which is going to take a LONG time to make a permanent fix. So a short term is required to make the game playable (cough: Autostrut).

Edited September 15, 2023 by PicoSpace

[PDCWolf]

6 minutes ago, PicoSpace said:

Likely because its integrated physics engine framework that is core element of the game, which is going to take a LONG time to make a permanent fix. So a short term is required to make the game playable (cough: Autostrut).

So... that'd wipe the "no autostrut" statement Nate made, or the other "editing that CFG is not the fix". I wonder what are they gonna come up with.

[PicoSpace]

2 minutes ago, PDCWolf said:

So... that'd wipe the "no autostrut" statement Nate made, or the other "editing that CFG is not the fix". I wonder what are they gonna come up with.

No idea, but its still a issue, much better in 1.4 but I can't build too crazy rockets... and vertical stacks are still pretty unstable depending on what you put in your payload or use engine plates.
 

[HammerTyme]

I was hoping there would be some info about the RCS not working occasionally. I’ve had this issue since launch.  Sometimes RCS just doesn’t work at all once I’m in orbit. I’ll have to save the game and reload it in order for the RCS to work again. 

[KerbalTheFrog]

Happy to hear the progress for these bugs

[Spicat]

1 hour ago, PDCWolf said:

I thought wobble was a "long term" thing? How come it is now approached with "short term solutions" ?

The last KERB was mentioning "short-term and long-term solutions". It seems they are actually making these short term solutions right now. To me it doesn't sound like they are ditching the long-term solutions.

Edited September 15, 2023 by Spicat

[Alpha_star]

1 hour ago, AaronDoesSpace said:

I lose hope for this game every day

6 months in and half the core issues turning people away are being "investigated"

just upsetting to watch

Well, this is the current top 20 list and has changed a lot from the pervious one before 0.1.4. As such, issues that were not as serious get more attention and new bugs were found. The list is changing.

No means of attacking you, but I want to share my analysis.

Edit: looking foward to fixing more bugs in the upcoming update!

Edited September 15, 2023 by Alpha_star

[Guest]

I am watching the forums but I will not play again until #2 and #13 are fixed.

And #17 would also be really nice.

[Strawberry]

1 hour ago, PDCWolf said:

 

1. "Status: under investigation, some fixes in progress"  [Said June 9]

For context on this, the kerb specifies that the fixes are applying to one specific bug (engine plates were extra wobbly), and that was fixed.

Anyways, its nice to see that wobble is getting addressed, not too suprised this is when its getting addressed considering its honestly lower priority then orbital decay, its hell to work around, but it can reliably be worked around. Though Ill acknowledge im not the best accurate judge of either because despite my 100 hours in the game i have not encountered either significantly because i do mission profiles that tended to avoid them.
 

That being said i cant really be too excited or dissapointed around how good these changes be when we dont even know what they are. If its just “hey heres autostrut” then im gonna be dissapointed, if theres a clever thing that i didnt think of to address wobble then i wont be.

 

(also this is decent evidence for my theory that the videos will tie into 1.5, if reentry is revealed to be in 1.5 through the video on it i will be so smug)

Edited September 16, 2023 by Strawberry

[GradientOGames]

6 hours ago, PicoSpace said:

Likely because its integrated physics engine framework that is core element of the game, which is going to take a LONG time to make a permanent fix. So a short term is required to make the game playable (cough: Autostrut).

I wouldn't say it would take THAT long though I can't say much as my games using ECS and DOTS haven't been as ambitious. Unity engine's DOTS seems like a simple fix but then the ksp2 devs have to figure out how to mix that with everything else. It'd be more worthwhile to get the first few roadmap items done, and then start working on converting the ENTIRE project into dots rather than a mix. This would fit into colonies development as there are talks about using Dots for the colonies stuff, but we'll see.

Edited September 16, 2023 by GradientOGames

[DancZer]

How do you split resources regarding bugfix vs feature development? It looks like that you shifted toward the feature development and less effort in bug fixing.

[OnlyLightMatters]

Wobbly rockets are finally being taken seriously!

Edited September 16, 2023 by OnlyLightMatters

[The Aziz]

They have been from the start, and have been in the top priority ever since first KERB appeared in July.

[kdaviper]

6 hours ago, DancZer said:

How do you split resources regarding bugfix vs feature development? It looks like that you shifted toward the feature development and less effort in bug fixing.

It has been like this since the beginning. Iirc they have never stated otherwise.

13 hours ago, PDCWolf said:

I thought wobble was a "long term" thing? How come it is now approached with "short term solutions" ?

 

Why not both?

[Vl3d]

Please upvote the broken wheels / flipping rovers issues. Also please fix the hard bugs related to Pause.

[Davedavidson]

glad I didn't buy this game but sad to see what a mess they made of it