Kerbal Calendar

[Superfluous J]

Because of some Jebfoolery over on the Empire Strikes Back thread I got it in my head that Kerbalkind needs a Calendar - or a Kalendar if you will. I spent about an hour on this which is likely about 55 minutes more than I should have, and figured if I had to waste my time on it so should you all have to waste your time reading it.

I started with the Kerbal year, which is about 426 days* long, the Mun orbit, which is about 6.5 days, and Minmus' orbit, which is about 56.5 days.

56 is conveniently divisible by 7, and we have 7 days a week here on Earth, so I immediately gravitated toward a 7-day "week" and an 8-week "month." Weeks are based on Mun and Months on Minmus. I originally called them "Munths" and "Minths" but "Munths" sounds too close to (read: exactly like) "months" so decided to change it to "leeks", for loonar-weeks. Not super happy with that name but finding another would take even more time.

So the leekdays - of which there are 7 - can conveniently match with the 7 planets, giving us Mohday, Eveday, Kerbday, Dunday, Dresday, Joolsday, and Eeloosday. In my mind, Joolsdays and Eeloosday are the leekend, while Kerbals get a "case of the Mohdays" and "Thank the Kraken It's Dresday"

There are 8 Minths, and I did not name them because if it's not obvious by now I'm out of creativity to give this project. However, in my brain Kerbals are smarter than us and instead of breaking days, leeks, minths, and years up in weird ways they decided to keep it simple. A Leek is 7 days. A Minth is 8 Leeks or 56 days. A Year is 8 Minths and the 8th Minth is only 5 Leeks (34 or 35 days) long. Sometimes the last Leek of the year is 6 days long, sometimes it's 7. No big whoop. The first day of every year is a Mohday.

Click here for the Kalendar, if you dare.

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Kerbin Calendar	Mohday	Eveday	Kerbday	Dunday	Dresday	Joolsday	Eeloosday
Minth 1	1	2	3	4	5	6	7
	8	9	10	11	12	13	14
	15	16	17	18	19	20	21
	22	23	24	25	26	27	28
	29	30	31	32	33	34	35
	36	37	38	39	40	41	42
	43	44	45	46	47	48	49
	50	51	52	53	54	55	56
Minth 2	57	58	59	60	61	62	63
	64	65	66	67	68	69	70
	71	72	73	74	75	76	77
	78	79	80	81	82	83	84
	85	86	87	88	89	90	91
	92	93	94	95	96	97	98
	99	100	101	102	103	104	105
	106	107	108	109	110	111	112
Minth 3	113	114	115	116	117	118	119
	120	121	122	123	124	125	126
	127	128	129	130	131	132	133
	134	135	136	137	138	139	140
	141	142	143	144	145	146	147
	148	149	150	151	152	153	154
	155	156	157	158	159	160	161
	162	163	164	165	166	167	168
Minth 4	169	170	171	172	173	174	175
	176	177	178	179	180	181	182
	183	184	185	186	187	188	189
	190	191	192	193	194	195	196
	197	198	199	200	201	202	203
	204	205	206	207	208	209	210
	211	212	213	214	215	216	217
	218	219	220	221	222	223	224
Minth 5	225	226	227	228	229	230	231
	232	233	234	235	236	237	238
	239	240	241	242	243	244	245
	246	247	248	249	250	251	252
	253	254	255	256	257	258	259
	260	261	262	263	264	265	266
	267	268	269	270	271	272	273
	274	275	276	277	278	279	280
Minth 6	281	282	283	284	285	286	287
	288	289	290	291	292	293	294
	295	296	297	298	299	300	301
	302	303	304	305	306	307	308
	309	310	311	312	313	314	315
	316	317	318	319	320	321	322
	323	324	325	326	327	328	329
	330	331	332	333	334	335	336
Minth 7	337	338	339	340	341	342	343
	344	345	346	347	348	349	350
	351	352	353	354	355	356	357
	358	359	360	361	362	363	364
	365	366	367	368	369	370	371
	372	373	374	375	376	377	378
	379	380	381	382	383	384	385
	386	387	388	389	390	391	392
Minth 8	393	394	395	396	397	398	399
	400	401	402	403	404	405	406
	407	408	409	410	411	412	413
	414	415	416	417	418	419	420
	421	422	423	424	425	426	427

 

*All days are Kerbin, 6-hour days.

[The Aziz]

10 hours ago, Superfluous J said:

leekend

 

[TheSaint]

1. I can't believe it took this long for someone to do something like this.

2. I can't believe Squad or Intercept didn't do it first.

3. Steal some days from the other minths to even out Minth 8. Kind of the way our months are the length of a lunar cycle, but not really. One is four weeks, some are 30 days, some are 31. Nobody cares. The lunar cycle doesn't line up with them anyway, and neither will yours. 

4. Hold a contest to name the minths.

[TheSaint]

Okay, so I put some more thought into this this afternoon while I should have been doing other stuff.

• Since the week is based on the munar cycle, call it a munar week, or meek.
• Split the days of the year up relatively evenly between the eight months. This gives you two months of 54 days and six months of 53 days. That's close enough to Minmus' synodic period to say it's based on it.
• I ran some names out of a random name generator and came up with some that I thought sounded regal enough to use for the names of months. Replace as desired.

This is what I wound up with:

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	Meek
Minths	Mohday	Eveday	Kerbday	Dunday	Dresday	Joolsday	Eeloosday
Daarin	1	2	3	4	5	6	7
	8	9	10	11	12	13	14
	15	16	17	18	19	20	21
	22	23	24	25	26	27	28
	29	30	31	32	33	34	35
	36	37	38	39	40	41	42
	43	44	45	46	47	48	49
	50	51	52	53	54	1	2
Thuan	3	4	5	6	7	8	9
	10	11	12	13	14	15	16
	17	18	19	20	21	22	23
	24	25	26	27	28	29	30
	31	32	33	34	35	36	37
	38	39	40	41	42	43	44
	45	46	47	48	49	50	51
	52	53	1	2	3	4	5
Ibris	6	7	8	9	10	11	12
	13	14	15	16	17	18	19
	20	21	22	23	24	25	26
	27	28	29	30	31	32	33
	34	35	36	37	38	39	40
	41	42	43	44	45	46	47
	48	49	50	51	52	53	1
Aslin	2	3	4	5	6	7	8
	9	10	11	12	13	14	15
	16	17	18	19	20	21	22
	23	24	25	26	27	28	29
	30	31	32	33	34	35	36
	37	38	39	40	41	42	43
	44	45	46	47	48	49	50
	51	52	53	1	2	3	4
Utes	5	6	7	8	9	10	11
	12	13	14	15	16	17	18
	19	20	21	22	23	24	25
	26	27	28	29	30	31	32
	33	34	35	36	37	38	39
	40	41	42	43	44	45	46
	47	48	49	50	51	52	53
	54	1	2	3	4	5	6
Nordos	7	8	9	10	11	12	13
	14	15	16	17	18	19	20
	21	22	23	24	25	26	27
	28	29	30	31	32	33	34
	35	36	37	38	39	40	41
	42	43	44	45	46	47	48
	49	50	51	52	53	1	2
Quidis	3	4	5	6	7	8	9
	10	11	12	13	14	15	16
	17	18	19	20	21	22	23
	24	25	26	27	28	29	30
	31	32	33	34	35	36	37
	38	39	40	41	42	43	44
	45	46	47	48	49	50	51
	52	53	1	2	3	4	5
Maros	6	7	8	9	10	11	12
	13	14	15	16	17	18	19
	20	21	22	23	24	25	26
	27	28	29	30	31	32	33
	34	35	36	37	38	39	40
	41	42	43	44	45	46	47
	48	49	50	51	52	53

 

According to the Wiki, Kerbin's year is actually 426 days, 32 minutes, 24.6 seconds long. That would mean that every 11 years would be a leap year, adding one day to one of the short months. Let's pick Maros for that. And every tenth leap year you skip.

[Hotel26]

On 4/3/2024 at 9:32 AM, Superfluous J said:

However, in my brain Kerbals are smarter than us and instead of breaking days, leeks, minths, and years up in weird ways they decided to keep it simple.

^ Precisely!

If I adopted this kalendar, I would make a royal dekree that the last day of your year (all of 32m24.6s) is an intergalactic public holiday.  (I don't think the employers should mind!  )

For the same reason, months ('munks minks' ('meeks' & 'minks')) would be easy(er) to remember, or more systematic anyway:

1. unoker
2. duoker
3. tresker
4. quaker
5. quinker
6. sexker
7. sepker
8. oktoker

And, naturally, like the rest of the whole universe (with the exception of a backwater known as Earth) zero-counting the days: 0..426 in the year and 0..55 within your 'minth'.

(Ah, and finally, for consistency, should those be 'Joolday' and "Eelooday'?  (Actually, a day pronounced/spelled 'diah', after the imperial inventor of the kalendiah...)  'Eloodiah'.  (But I'm OK with 'day'; I am not a stickler or anything!  )

UPDATE: I read the OP again and saw that months are based on Minmus, so the 'minth' makes sense, although I would now call them 'minks' (not 'munks').  In any case, all good work, all above.

Edited April 4 by Hotel26

[TheSaint]

30 minutes ago, Hotel26 said:

^ Precisely!

If I adopted this kalendar, I would make a royal dekree that the last day of your year (all of 32m24.6s) is an intergalactic public holiday.  (I don't think the employers should mind!  )

For the same reason, months ('munks' ('meeks' & ' munks')) would be easy(er) to remember, or more systematic anyway:

1. unoker
2. duoker
3. tresker
4. quaker
5. quinker
6. sexker
7. sepker
8. oktoker

And, naturally, like the rest of the whole universe (with the exception of a backwater known as Earth) zero-counting the days: 0..426 in the year and 0..55 within your 'minth'.

(Ah, and finally, for consistency, I think OP wanted(?) 'Eelooday'.  (Actually, a day pronounced/spelled 'diah', after the imperial inventor of the kalendiah...)  'Eloodiah'.  (But I'm OK with 'day'; I am not a stickler or anything!  )

Maybe. Buuuut...usually calendars are developed early in a civilization, when it is still operating with a certain amount of illogic. So expecting a civilization's calendar to be 100% logical is, well, illogical.

And, besides, "sexker" doesn't make it through the content filter on Bob's laptop.

[Hotel26]

52 minutes ago, TheSaint said:

a certain amount of illogic

It's just a phobia of mine, but I play games precisely to get away from the 'real' world.  (I don't even like to use the term 'game' because I so much prefer 'pedagogical pursuit'.)

I thought about 'sekker' but the Latin word for six is sextus; nothing dirty...  I am, in fact, a sexagenarian ('look it up'), so I deeply resemble your remark. 

                                                                               

Incidentally, there have been some very credible attempts at a Kerbal Calendar in the past, so I'll see if I can make a webography of them to post here:

• AK - After Kod Calendar and month names, Nov 2023
• The Kerbal Calendar, Jan 2023             <------- highly recommended
• Kerbin Calendar 2021
• Kerbal Calendar 2015
• ...maybe more, but it's time for me to play pursue KSP now...

Edited April 4 by Hotel26

[Superfluous J]

My reasoning for making the calendar minths and years all start at day 1 on Mohday is entirely 100% because I don't want the calendar to be complicated. It's nice that the 158th day of *EVERY* year is the 46th Day of the 4th Minth and is always a Dunday.

I don't mind spreading entire Leeks (or Meeks or whatever) around to even out the Minths, but I really like how there are a semi-exact number of Leeks in a Minth AND in the Year, so am leery to break Minths up into non-exact-Leek lengths.

Regarding Joolsday and Eeloosday vs Joolday and Eelooday, I just liked the way it sounded and set the weekends off from the weekdays very slightly.

I like the months being named after the numbers, but we could harken to the Mexican roots of the game and use Spanish.

1. Unoker
2. Dosker
3. Tresker
4. Quaker (I like the spelling of Quaker over Cuaker)
5. Cinker
6. Seiker
7. Sietker
8. Ochker (Because "o-choke-her" just sounds bad)

So here's attempt #... 4 I think it is, though only 2 for me, at the Kalendar.

Spoiler

	Mohday	Eveday	Kerbday	Dunday	Dresday	Joolsday	Eeloosday
Unoker	1 (1)	2 (2)	3 (3)	4 (4)	5 (5)	6 (6)	7 (7)
	8 (8)	9 (9)	10 (10)	11 (11)	12 (12)	13 (13)	14 (14)
	15 (15)	16 (16)	17 (17)	18 (18)	19 (19)	20 (20)	21 (21)
	22 (22)	23 (23)	24 (24)	25 (25)	26 (26)	27 (27)	28 (28)
	29 (29)	30 (30)	31 (31)	32 (32)	33 (33)	34 (34)	35 (35)
	36 (36)	37 (37)	38 (38)	39 (39)	40 (40)	41 (41)	42 (42)
	43 (43)	44 (44)	45 (45)	46 (46)	47 (47)	48 (48)	49 (49)
	50 (50)	51 (51)	52 (52)	53 (53)	54 (54)	55 (55)	56 (56)
Dosker	1 (57)	2 (58)	3 (59)	4 (60)	5 (61)	6 (62)	7 (63)
	8 (64)	9 (65)	10 (66)	11 (67)	12 (68)	13 (69)	14 (70)
	15 (71)	16 (72)	17 (73)	18 (74)	19 (75)	20 (76)	21 (77)
	22 (78)	23 (79)	24 (80)	25 (81)	26 (82)	27 (83)	28 (84)
	29 (85)	30 (86)	31 (87)	32 (88)	33 (89)	34 (90)	35 (91)
	36 (92)	37 (93)	38 (94)	39 (95)	40 (96)	41 (97)	42 (98)
	43 (99)	44 (100)	45 (101)	46 (102)	47 (103)	48 (104)	49 (105)
Tresker	1 (106)	2 (107)	3 (108)	4 (109)	5 (110)	6 (111)	7 (112)
	8 (113)	9 (114)	10 (115)	11 (116)	12 (117)	13 (118)	14 (119)
	15 (120)	16 (121)	17 (122)	18 (123)	19 (124)	20 (125)	21 (126)
	22 (127)	23 (128)	24 (129)	25 (130)	26 (131)	27 (132)	28 (133)
	29 (134)	30 (135)	31 (136)	32 (137)	33 (138)	34 (139)	35 (140)
	36 (141)	37 (142)	38 (143)	39 (144)	40 (145)	41 (146)	42 (147)
	43 (148)	44 (149)	45 (150)	46 (151)	47 (152)	48 (153)	49 (154)
	50 (155)	51 (156)	52 (157)	53 (158)	54 (159)	55 (160)	56 (161)
Quaker	1 (162)	2 (163)	3 (164)	4 (165)	5 (166)	6 (167)	7 (168)
	8 (169)	9 (170)	10 (171)	11 (172)	12 (173)	13 (174)	14 (175)
	15 (176)	16 (177)	17 (178)	18 (179)	19 (180)	20 (181)	21 (182)
	22 (183)	23 (184)	24 (185)	25 (186)	26 (187)	27 (188)	28 (189)
	29 (190)	30 (191)	31 (192)	32 (193)	33 (194)	34 (195)	35 (196)
	36 (197)	37 (198)	38 (199)	39 (200)	40 (201)	41 (202)	42 (203)
	43 (204)	44 (205)	45 (206)	46 (207)	47 (208)	48 (209)	49 (210)
	50 (211)	51 (212)	52 (213)	53 (214)	54 (215)	55 (216)	56 (217)
Cinker	1 (218)	2 (219)	3 (220)	4 (221)	5 (222)	6 (223)	7 (224)
	8 (225)	9 (226)	10 (227)	11 (228)	12 (229)	13 (230)	14 (231)
	15 (232)	16 (233)	17 (234)	18 (235)	19 (236)	20 (237)	21 (238)
	22 (239)	23 (240)	24 (241)	25 (242)	26 (243)	27 (244)	28 (245)
	29 (246)	30 (247)	31 (248)	32 (249)	33 (250)	34 (251)	35 (252)
	36 (253)	37 (254)	38 (255)	39 (256)	40 (257)	41 (258)	42 (259)
	43 (260)	44 (261)	45 (262)	46 (263)	47 (264)	48 (265)	49 (266)
Seisker	1 (267)	2 (268)	3 (269)	4 (270)	5 (271)	6 (272)	7 (273)
	8 (274)	9 (275)	10 (276)	11 (277)	12 (278)	13 (279)	14 (280)
	15 (281)	16 (282)	17 (283)	18 (284)	19 (285)	20 (286)	21 (287)
	22 (288)	23 (289)	24 (290)	25 (291)	26 (292)	27 (293)	28 (294)
	29 (295)	30 (296)	31 (297)	32 (298)	33 (299)	34 (300)	35 (301)
	36 (302)	37 (303)	38 (304)	39 (305)	40 (306)	41 (307)	42 (308)
	43 (309)	44 (310)	45 (311)	46 (312)	47 (313)	48 (314)	49 (315)
	50 (316)	51 (317)	52 (318)	53 (319)	54 (320)	55 (321)	56 (322)
Sietker	1 (323)	2 (324)	3 (325)	4 (326)	5 (327)	6 (328)	7 (329)
	8 (330)	9 (331)	10 (332)	11 (333)	12 (334)	13 (335)	14 (336)
	15 (337)	16 (338)	17 (339)	18 (340)	19 (341)	20 (342)	21 (343)
	22 (344)	23 (345)	24 (346)	25 (347)	26 (348)	27 (349)	28 (350)
	29 (351)	30 (352)	31 (353)	32 (354)	33 (355)	34 (356)	35 (357)
	36 (358)	37 (359)	38 (360)	39 (361)	40 (362)	41 (363)	42 (364)
	43 (365)	44 (366)	45 (367)	46 (368)	47 (369)	48 (370)	49 (371)
Ochker	1 (372)	2 (373)	3 (374)	4 (375)	5 (376)	6 (377)	7 (378)
	8 (379)	9 (380)	10 (381)	11 (382)	12 (383)	13 (384)	14 (385)
	15 (386)	16 (387)	17 (388)	18 (389)	19 (390)	20 (391)	21 (392)
	22 (393)	23 (394)	24 (395)	25 (396)	26 (397)	27 (398)	28 (399)
	29 (400)	30 (401)	31 (402)	32 (403)	33 (404)	34 (405)	35 (406)
	36 (407)	37 (408)	38 (409)	39 (410)	40 (411)	41 (412)	42 (413)
	43 (414)	44 (415)	45 (416)	46 (417)	47 (418)	48 (419)	49 (420)
	50 (421)	51 (422)	52 (423)	53 (424)	54 (425)	55 (426)	56 (427)*

 

 

Edited April 4 by Superfluous J

[Hotel26]

24 minutes ago, Superfluous J said:

we could harken to the Mexican roots of the game and use Spanish

heartily seconded and in that case 'dia' from Jebediah.  (but your work, your call; I admit 'Evedia' is a bit harder to say)

Edited April 4 by Hotel26

[TheSaint]

Well, my Old Fashioned decided that I'm done thinking about this. I'm going to use the calendar I came up with for my next mission report. The good news is that Kerbal Space Program is just about the most libertarian video game I've ever seen. You can use whatever calendar you want to. I am (very honestly) curious to see what you decide upon.

(Because people who are more enthusiastic about their calendar choices in their saves are more interesting to me.)

Edited April 4 by TheSaint

[Hotel26]

1 hour ago, TheSaint said:

calendar choices

Beautiful!  Leaving the question of how one does actually 'implement' it. 

OK, so I see my production world is in year 8, Unoker 55, 2h3m.  A Joolday Jooldia.

Am I implemented?   

Edited April 4 by Hotel26

[TheSaint]

7 minutes ago, Hotel26 said:

Beautiful!  Leaving the question of how one does actually 'implement' it. 

OK, so I see my production world is in year 8, Unoker 55, 2h3m.  A Joolday Jooldia.

Am I implemented?   

Yes.

[Hotel26]

4 hours ago, Superfluous J said:

I don't mind spreading entire Leeks (or Meeks

Any reason odd  minths couldn't have 8 meeks and even ones 7?  Or vice versa (better), as an aid to figuring out how many meeks in a particular minth?

You're showing Tresker and Quaker both having 56 days.  (Shades of Earth illogic requiring rote memory: like July & August (the Caesar months) both having 31 days.)

Edited April 4 by Hotel26

[The Aziz]

7 hours ago, TheSaint said:

Daarin

@Darrin H?

6 hours ago, Hotel26 said:

quaker

It's one step from quacker, so in that case a honker is required as well.

[Superfluous J]

1 hour ago, Hotel26 said:

Any reason odd  minths couldn't have 8 meeks and even ones 7?  Or vice versa (better), as an aid to figuring out how many meeks in a particular minth?

You're showing Tresker and Quaker both having 56 days.  (Shades of Earth illogic requiring rote memory: like July & August (the Caesar months) both having 31 days.)

There are 8 Minths. 3 of them have 7 Leeks and 5 have 8 Leeks. There is no way to set them up as you describe.

(I like Leeks over Meeks simply because Minths already starts with an M)

We could have a more traditional 12 Minths, all of them with 5 Leeks except either 1 has 6, or the final Leek of the Year is "New Year's Meek"

Edited April 4 by Superfluous J

[Superfluous J]

And because nobody asked for it and I have far better things to do with my time, here's a 12-Minth Calendar that I quite like, except for the sad part that "minths" are no longer related to Minmus' orbital period at all.

Spoiler

	Mohday	Eveday	Kerbday	Dunday	Dresday	Joolsday	Eeloosday
Unoker	1 (1)	2 (2)	3 (3)	4 (4)	5 (5)	6 (6)	7 (7)
	8 (8)	9 (9)	10 (10)	11 (11)	12 (12)	13 (13)	14 (14)
	15 (15)	16 (16)	17 (17)	18 (18)	19 (19)	20 (20)	21 (21)
	22 (22)	23 (23)	24 (24)	25 (25)	26 (26)	27 (27)	28 (28)
	29 (29)	30 (30)	31 (31)	32 (32)	33 (33)	34 (34)	35 (35)
Dosker	1 (36)	2 (37)	3 (38)	4 (39)	5 (40)	6 (41)	7 (42)
	8 (43)	9 (44)	10 (45)	11 (46)	12 (47)	13 (48)	14 (49)
	15 (50)	16 (51)	17 (52)	18 (53)	19 (54)	20 (55)	21 (56)
	22 (57)	23 (58)	24 (59)	25 (60)	26 (61)	27 (62)	28 (63)
	29 (64)	30 (65)	31 (66)	32 (67)	33 (68)	34 (69)	35 (70)
Tresker	1 (71)	2 (72)	3 (73)	4 (74)	5 (75)	6 (76)	7 (77)
	8 (78)	9 (79)	10 (80)	11 (81)	12 (82)	13 (83)	14 (84)
	15 (85)	16 (86)	17 (87)	18 (88)	19 (89)	20 (90)	21 (91)
	22 (92)	23 (93)	24 (94)	25 (95)	26 (96)	27 (97)	28 (98)
	29 (99)	30 (100)	31 (101)	32 (102)	33 (103)	34 (104)	35 (105)
Quaker	1 (106)	2 (107)	3 (108)	4 (109)	5 (110)	6 (111)	7 (112)
	8 (113)	9 (114)	10 (115)	11 (116)	12 (117)	13 (118)	14 (119)
	15 (120)	16 (121)	17 (122)	18 (123)	19 (124)	20 (125)	21 (126)
	22 (127)	23 (128)	24 (129)	25 (130)	26 (131)	27 (132)	28 (133)
	29 (134)	30 (135)	31 (136)	32 (137)	33 (138)	34 (139)	35 (140)
Cinker	1 (141)	2 (142)	3 (143)	4 (144)	5 (145)	6 (146)	7 (147)
	8 (148)	9 (149)	10 (150)	11 (151)	12 (152)	13 (153)	14 (154)
	15 (155)	16 (156)	17 (157)	18 (158)	19 (159)	20 (160)	21 (161)
	22 (162)	23 (163)	24 (164)	25 (165)	26 (166)	27 (167)	28 (168)
	29 (169)	30 (170)	31 (171)	32 (172)	33 (173)	34 (174)	35 (175)
Seiker	1 (176)	2 (177)	3 (178)	4 (179)	5 (180)	6 (181)	7 (182)
	8 (183)	9 (184)	10 (185)	11 (186)	12 (187)	13 (188)	14 (189)
	15 (190)	16 (191)	17 (192)	18 (193)	19 (194)	20 (195)	21 (196)
	22 (197)	23 (198)	24 (199)	25 (200)	26 (201)	27 (202)	28 (203)
	29 (204)	30 (205)	31 (206)	32 (207)	33 (208)	34 (209)	35 (210)
Sietker	1 (211)	2 (212)	3 (213)	4 (214)	5 (215)	6 (216)	7 (217)
	8 (218)	9 (219)	10 (220)	11 (221)	12 (222)	13 (223)	14 (224)
	15 (225)	16 (226)	17 (227)	18 (228)	19 (229)	20 (230)	21 (231)
	22 (232)	23 (233)	24 (234)	25 (235)	26 (236)	27 (237)	28 (238)
	29 (239)	30 (240)	31 (241)	32 (242)	33 (243)	34 (244)	35 (245)
Ochker	1 (246)	2 (247)	3 (248)	4 (249)	5 (250)	6 (251)	7 (252)
	8 (253)	9 (254)	10 (255)	11 (256)	12 (257)	13 (258)	14 (259)
	15 (260)	16 (261)	17 (262)	18 (263)	19 (264)	20 (265)	21 (266)
	22 (267)	23 (268)	24 (269)	25 (270)	26 (271)	27 (272)	28 (273)
	29 (274)	30 (275)	31 (276)	32 (277)	33 (278)	34 (279)	35 (280)
Nuevker	1 (281)	2 (282)	3 (283)	4 (284)	5 (285)	6 (286)	7 (287)
	8 (288)	9 (289)	10 (290)	11 (291)	12 (292)	13 (293)	14 (294)
	15 (295)	16 (296)	17 (297)	18 (298)	19 (299)	20 (300)	21 (301)
	22 (302)	23 (303)	24 (304)	25 (305)	26 (306)	27 (307)	28 (308)
	29 (309)	30 (310)	31 (311)	32 (312)	33 (313)	34 (314)	35 (315)
Diezker	1 (316)	2 (317)	3 (318)	4 (319)	5 (320)	6 (321)	7 (322)
	8 (323)	9 (324)	10 (325)	11 (326)	12 (327)	13 (328)	14 (329)
	15 (330)	16 (331)	17 (332)	18 (333)	19 (334)	20 (335)	21 (336)
	22 (337)	23 (338)	24 (339)	25 (340)	26 (341)	27 (342)	28 (343)
	29 (344)	30 (345)	31 (346)	32 (347)	33 (348)	34 (349)	35 (350)
Onceker	1 (351)	2 (352)	3 (353)	4 (354)	5 (355)	6 (356)	7 (357)
	8 (358)	9 (359)	10 (360)	11 (361)	12 (362)	13 (363)	14 (364)
	15 (365)	16 (366)	17 (367)	18 (368)	19 (369)	20 (370)	21 (371)
	22 (372)	23 (373)	24 (374)	25 (375)	26 (376)	27 (377)	28 (378)
	29 (379)	30 (380)	31 (381)	32 (382)	33 (383)	34 (384)	35 (385)
Doceker	1 (386)	2 (387)	3 (388)	4 (389)	5 (390)	6 (391)	7 (392)
	8 (393)	9 (394)	10 (395)	11 (396)	12 (397)	13 (398)	14 (399)
	15 (400)	16 (401)	17 (402)	18 (403)	19 (404)	20 (405)	21 (406)
	22 (407)	23 (408)	24 (409)	25 (410)	26 (411)	27 (412)	28 (413)
	29 (414)	30 (415)	31 (416)	32 (417)	33 (418)	34 (419)	35 (420)
New Year's Meek	1 (421)	2 (422)	3 (423)	4 (424)	5 (425)	6 (426)	7 (427)*

 

 

Edited April 4 by Superfluous J

[Superfluous J]

Okay I swear this is the last time I'll post a new calendar for at least the next couple hours.

This calendar takes the "New Year's Leek" idea and uses it to make the 8 Minths alternate 7/8/7/8/7/8/7/8 Leeks, making them very easy to remember.

Spoiler

	Mohday	Eveday	Kerbday	Dunday	Dresday	Joolsday	Eeloosday
Unoker	1 (1)	2 (2)	3 (3)	4 (4)	5 (5)	6 (6)	7 (7)
	8 (8)	9 (9)	10 (10)	11 (11)	12 (12)	13 (13)	14 (14)
	15 (15)	16 (16)	17 (17)	18 (18)	19 (19)	20 (20)	21 (21)
	22 (22)	23 (23)	24 (24)	25 (25)	26 (26)	27 (27)	28 (28)
	29 (29)	30 (30)	31 (31)	32 (32)	33 (33)	34 (34)	35 (35)
	36 (36)	37 (37)	38 (38)	39 (39)	40 (40)	41 (41)	42 (42)
	43 (43)	44 (44)	45 (45)	46 (46)	47 (47)	48 (48)	49 (49)
Dosker	1 (50)	2 (51)	3 (52)	4 (53)	5 (54)	6 (55)	7 (56)
	8 (57)	9 (58)	10 (59)	11 (60)	12 (61)	13 (62)	14 (63)
	15 (64)	16 (65)	17 (66)	18 (67)	19 (68)	20 (69)	21 (70)
	22 (71)	23 (72)	24 (73)	25 (74)	26 (75)	27 (76)	28 (77)
	29 (78)	30 (79)	31 (80)	32 (81)	33 (82)	34 (83)	35 (84)
	36 (85)	37 (86)	38 (87)	39 (88)	40 (89)	41 (90)	42 (91)
	43 (92)	44 (93)	45 (94)	46 (95)	47 (96)	48 (97)	49 (98)
	50 (99)	51 (100)	52 (101)	53 (102)	54 (103)	55 (104)	56 (105)
Tresker	1 (106)	2 (107)	3 (108)	4 (109)	5 (110)	6 (111)	7 (112)
	8 (113)	9 (114)	10 (115)	11 (116)	12 (117)	13 (118)	14 (119)
	15 (120)	16 (121)	17 (122)	18 (123)	19 (124)	20 (125)	21 (126)
	22 (127)	23 (128)	24 (129)	25 (130)	26 (131)	27 (132)	28 (133)
	29 (134)	30 (135)	31 (136)	32 (137)	33 (138)	34 (139)	35 (140)
	36 (141)	37 (142)	38 (143)	39 (144)	40 (145)	41 (146)	42 (147)
	43 (148)	44 (149)	45 (150)	46 (151)	47 (152)	48 (153)	49 (154)
Quaker	1 (155)	2 (156)	3 (157)	4 (158)	5 (159)	6 (160)	7 (161)
	8 (162)	9 (163)	10 (164)	11 (165)	12 (166)	13 (167)	14 (168)
	15 (169)	16 (170)	17 (171)	18 (172)	19 (173)	20 (174)	21 (175)
	22 (176)	23 (177)	24 (178)	25 (179)	26 (180)	27 (181)	28 (182)
	29 (183)	30 (184)	31 (185)	32 (186)	33 (187)	34 (188)	35 (189)
	36 (190)	37 (191)	38 (192)	39 (193)	40 (194)	41 (195)	42 (196)
	43 (197)	44 (198)	45 (199)	46 (200)	47 (201)	48 (202)	49 (203)
	50 (204)	51 (205)	52 (206)	53 (207)	54 (208)	55 (209)	56 (210)
Cinker	1 (211)	2 (212)	3 (213)	4 (214)	5 (215)	6 (216)	7 (217)
	8 (218)	9 (219)	10 (220)	11 (221)	12 (222)	13 (223)	14 (224)
	15 (225)	16 (226)	17 (227)	18 (228)	19 (229)	20 (230)	21 (231)
	22 (232)	23 (233)	24 (234)	25 (235)	26 (236)	27 (237)	28 (238)
	29 (239)	30 (240)	31 (241)	32 (242)	33 (243)	34 (244)	35 (245)
	36 (246)	37 (247)	38 (248)	39 (249)	40 (250)	41 (251)	42 (252)
	43 (253)	44 (254)	45 (255)	46 (256)	47 (257)	48 (258)	49 (259)
Seiker	1 (260)	2 (261)	3 (262)	4 (263)	5 (264)	6 (265)	7 (266)
	8 (267)	9 (268)	10 (269)	11 (270)	12 (271)	13 (272)	14 (273)
	15 (274)	16 (275)	17 (276)	18 (277)	19 (278)	20 (279)	21 (280)
	22 (281)	23 (282)	24 (283)	25 (284)	26 (285)	27 (286)	28 (287)
	29 (288)	30 (289)	31 (290)	32 (291)	33 (292)	34 (293)	35 (294)
	36 (295)	37 (296)	38 (297)	39 (298)	40 (299)	41 (300)	42 (301)
	43 (302)	44 (303)	45 (304)	46 (305)	47 (306)	48 (307)	49 (308)
	50 (309)	51 (310)	52 (311)	53 (312)	54 (313)	55 (314)	56 (315)
Sietker	1 (316)	2 (317)	3 (318)	4 (319)	5 (320)	6 (321)	7 (322)
	8 (323)	9 (324)	10 (325)	11 (326)	12 (327)	13 (328)	14 (329)
	15 (330)	16 (331)	17 (332)	18 (333)	19 (334)	20 (335)	21 (336)
	22 (337)	23 (338)	24 (339)	25 (340)	26 (341)	27 (342)	28 (343)
	29 (344)	30 (345)	31 (346)	32 (347)	33 (348)	34 (349)	35 (350)
	36 (351)	37 (352)	38 (353)	39 (354)	40 (355)	41 (356)	42 (357)
	43 (358)	44 (359)	45 (360)	46 (361)	47 (362)	48 (363)	49 (364)
Ochker	1 (365)	2 (366)	3 (367)	4 (368)	5 (369)	6 (370)	7 (371)
	8 (372)	9 (373)	10 (374)	11 (375)	12 (376)	13 (377)	14 (378)
	15 (379)	16 (380)	17 (381)	18 (382)	19 (383)	20 (384)	21 (385)
	22 (386)	23 (387)	24 (388)	25 (389)	26 (390)	27 (391)	28 (392)
	29 (393)	30 (394)	31 (395)	32 (396)	33 (397)	34 (398)	35 (399)
	36 (400)	37 (401)	38 (402)	39 (403)	40 (404)	41 (405)	42 (406)
	43 (407)	44 (408)	45 (409)	46 (410)	47 (411)	48 (412)	49 (413)
	50 (414)	51 (415)	52 (416)	53 (417)	54 (418)	55 (419)	56 (420)
New Year's Leek	1 (421)	2 (422)	3 (423)	4 (424)	5 (425)	6 (426)	7 (427)*

 

 

1 hour ago, The Aziz said:

It's one step from quacker, so in that case a honker is required as well.

Quaker is the only Minth name that's an actual English word

Edited April 4 by Superfluous J

[Hotel26]

3 hours ago, Superfluous J said:

There are 8 Minths. 3 of them have 7 Leeks and 5 have 8 Leeks

My mistake; thanks for the correction.   

Spoiler

But, in my putative  version, I'll just put the 8-week minths first; then the 7-week ones last.  Not being a farmer, "time is just a way to prevent everything all happening at once".

UPDATE: your New Year's Leek is even better.

 

3 hours ago, Superfluous J said:

(I like Leeks over Meeks simply because Minths already starts with an M)

 

Spoiler

I like the term "leek day" for that last 32m of the year, is my (meaningless) bias.  And the alliteration of "meeks and minks" [in my case].

UPDATE, "leek meek", for that last holiday meek.    

OK, I will relent on this on.   

 

2 hours ago, Superfluous J said:

making them very easy to remember

OK, this I like!  Thumbs up.  What's not to like about a holiday week -- by royal dekree!

 

2 hours ago, Superfluous J said:

Quaker is the only Minth name that's an actual English word

Info: Latin 'Quattro' is the origin of Spanish "Cuatro'.  I guess I feel that 100,000 Kerbals, sitting at typewriters, tapping at keys in their own language are, sooner or later, going to manage to typo an 'English' word.

Your idea about switching to Spanish (as homage to Felipe) is very appealing, though!  "Cuatker'.  I feel it is OK (because I am learning Spanish) as long as people would feel comfortable about how to pronounce it "Kwotker").   See how other people weigh in...?

(I'll hold my fire now: I'm down in the weeds, anyway.  Love what you've done!)

Edited April 4 by Hotel26

[kerbiloid]

Why would the Kerbals need a solar "year", when their equator tilt iz zero, so the Kerbin doesn't have seasons, and thus the vegetation period of their autotrophs doesn't depend on their Sun at all?

It depends only on the chemical reactions rate, on day-night number, and maybe on the munar tides (as they live at the coastline).

How could they even know about the solar year except from the nerdish astronomy studies? They don't have equinoxes and solstices.

They can see bright spots in the sky: Sun, Mun, and to some extent Minmus.

They can see that the Kerbin solar day = 21 600.000 s
 

They know about the Mun phases, and about the ecliptic line.
So, by counting the Mun passes in front of the Sun, they know the Mun synodic orbital period  = 141 115.4 s

Thus they know that the Mun is passing in front of the Sun every 141 115.4 / 21 600.0 ~= 6.53312 solar days ~= 6 ¹⁶/₃₀ solar days (almost precisely).
(They had calculated it by dividing 196 days by 30 passes they took).

As 196 days is very close to the Earth plants vegetation period, the Kerbal autotrophic organisms probably have something similar.

Thus, the equivalent of the Earth's agricultural solar year on Kerbin is a 196 days period (= 4 x 7 x 7), which consists of 30 Mun phase periods, which are basically Kerbal week.
This gives to them a 7-day long civil week, a 4-week = 28-day long civil month, and 7-month = 28-week = 196-day long civil year.
It exactly matches the 30-lunar-month long lunar year. Both start from New Mun.
So, the civil Kerbals have 7 equal months in a year, and 7 days in a week. This is obviously a tip from above.

They are aware, that their Sun is moving straightly in fron of the stars, returning to the same position every
Sidereal orbital period  =  9 203 545 s  = 426 d 0 h 32 m 24.6 s

So what who cares of those silly dots on the sky?
They are funny for nerds, but make no effect in the Kerbal life, as they don't have seasons to say: "Look, the Sun is almost at the Kraken Minor eye. We have ten days to prepare our harvesting tools."
The stars mean nothing for the Kerbals.

As nothing means the solar year.

Of course, the Kerbal nerds know that the Sun returns to the Kraken Minor eye every 426 days (and 32 minutes) = 2 x 3 x 71 days, but so what?
Nobody else cares.

Look at the Muslim calendar. It doesn't refer to the Sun at all. When you live close to the equator in a desert with rare rains, the seasons differ much less than at the Polar Circle. Actually you barely need the "year" at all.

426 / 196 = 2.173469 ~= 2 ³/₁₇
So, they know that every 17 returns of Sol to the Star, and every 37 phase periods of Mun-Sun (30 Mun phase periods each).
It's very nice for their astronomers, but has no effect on nything else.
This 17-solar-year period is like the "indiction" in medieval year counting (just the Earthlings had it 15-year long). Had no sense in daily life, but was always mentioned in chronology and used in religious practice.

So, every 37 civil years they celebrate the jubilee, The New Indiction.
It's 37 x 196 x 6 /24 / 365.2422 ~= 5 human years.

 

They are aware of Minmus, and that its Sidereal orbital period = 1 077 311 s ~= 49.875 Kerbin solar days.
The Minmus is too small, its phases are barely visible, and its 49.875 days period is too blurry, so it doesn't play a role in Kerbal civil life.

But it doesn't mean it's meaningless at all.  Vice versa, it's significant.

It's period = 49.8755 days = 7 x 7 + ⁶/₇ days.
As the Kerbal civil week is 7 day long, and the civil year is 7 month long, and there are 7 visible major planets (Sun, Mun, Moho, Eve, Dune, Jool, Eeloo), the Kerbal mysticism is based on the septenary of something, just like the human one.

Thus as the Minmus period is basically seven of seven days, or seven weeks, and only the wizards can see the dim light of its phases, the Minmus is also known as The Moon Of Mages, The Night Crystal, The Cold Eye of Heaven/Abyss _{(a long-lasting scholastic debate between different mystic  schools)}, and plays an important role in Kerbal mysticism and magikk.

Thus, the Kerbal mages operate with a (7 x 7 + ⁶/₇) x 7 = 349 day long period, which they call a wizards' year.
The Moon of Mages (aka Minmus) makes 7 full passes around the star sky, and then the mystical cycle repeats.

This period doesn't match any profane activity, it's purely mystical.
As 349 is prime number, and 196 isn't, it again highlights the superiority of the wizards' world over the mundane one.

Every 349*196 = 68 404 Kerbal solar days the year beginnings match each other, and thus every 349 civil years (i.e. once per  human century) Kerbals fear of Kraken, destroying the Universe.
Even more potentially dangerous are every 17th of such dates, when not just a civil year, but an indiction starts together with the wizards' year, every 53 civil years.

Thus, the 349 civil year long period is called Kraken's year, while 5 933 civil years are a Kraken's indiction (about 1483 human years).
The Kerbals believe that the world appeared when the Sun, the Mun, and the Minmus were in conjunction.

 

Now let's have a look at the days.
The civil year is 7 x 4 x 7 = 196, the lunar year is 30 x 6 ¹⁶/₃₀= 196.
Both begin simultaneously.
The civil months and the Mun periods don't match each other, they are 28:30 per year.
This means that any day is integer itself, but contains a non-integer part of the lunar period.
Two civil weeks repeat every fortnight, two Mun periods repeat every ~13 days (6.53312 * 2 = 13.066).

196 = 14 * 2 * 7 and ~15 * 13

This adds two more intervals to the Kerbal time measurement system, a civil fortnight (14 Kerbal days) and a lunar fortnight (13 Kerbal days).
Also, it adds the 13 (a Mun dozen) to the Kerbal numerology an mysticism, as a sign of superiority of Kerbal sapient nature above the blind natural forces, giving them one more day per fortnight.
The Kerbals believe that low-level species have a 13 fortnight, while Kerbal have two 7-day weeks.
13 is a wild nature (some say, Kraken's), chaotic number, while 7 is a number of the sapient Kerbal order.

Thus, every day of the civil year belongs to a civil fortnight, and to a lunar fortnight.
The day, when the lunar period is changed, is mystically significant.

It happens every 6 ¹⁶/₃₀th day, on the days of year:

0	32 4/15	64 14/15	97 3/5	130 8/15	163 1/5
6 8/15	38 4/5	71 7/15	104 2/15	137 1/15	169 11/15
13 1/15	45 1/3	78	110 14/15	143 3/5	176 4/15
19 3/15	51 13/15	84 8/15	117 7/15	150 2/15	182 4/5
25 11/15	58 2/5	91 1/15	124	156 2/3	189 1/3

So, as we can see, some fixed days of civil year are New Muns, and some of them have >1/2 as fraction part (i.e. mostly from the previous/current Munar period, while others have < 1/2. The 78th and the 124th seem integer, but just due to the rounding error between 6.53312 and 6 16/30.)

1 match	33 new	65 prev	98 prev	131 prev	164 new
7 prev	39 prev	72 new	105 new	138 new	170 prev
14 new	46 new	79 match	111 prev	144 prev	177 new
20 prev	52 prev	85 prev	118 prev	151 new	183 prev
26 prev	59 new	92 new	125 match	157 prev	190 new

The Kerbal civil months are 28 days long: 1..28, 29..56, 57..84, 85..112, 113..140, 141..168, 169..196 day of year.

So, the New Muns are distributed between civil months this way:

doy	dom	newmun		doy	dom	newmun		doy	dom	newmun		doy	dom	newmun		doy	dom	newmun		doy	dom	newmun		doy	dom	newmun
1	1	match		29	1			57	1			85	1	prev		113	1			141	1			169	1
2	2			30	2			58	2			86	2			114	2			142	2			170	2	prev
3	3			31	3			59	3	new		87	3			115	3			143	3			171	3
4	4			32	4			60	4			88	4			116	4			144	4	prev		172	4
5	5			33	5	new		61	5			89	5			117	5			145	5			173	5
6	6			34	6			62	6			90	6			118	6	prev		146	6			174	6
7	7	prev		35	7			63	7			91	7			119	7			147	7			175	7
8	8			36	8			64	8			92	8	new		120	8			148	8			176	8
9	9			37	9			65	9	prev		93	9			121	9			149	9			177	9	new
10	10			38	10			66	10			94	10			122	10			150	10			178	10
11	11			39	11	prev		67	11			95	11			123	11			151	11	new		179	11
12	12			40	12			68	12			96	12			124	12			152	12			180	12
13	13			41	13			69	13			97	13			125	13	match		153	13			181	13
14	14	new		42	14			70	14			98	14	prev		126	14			154	14			182	14
15	15			43	15			71	15			99	15			127	15			155	15			183	15	prev
16	16			44	16			72	16	new		100	16			128	16			156	16			184	16
17	17			45	17			73	17			101	17			129	17			157	17	prev		185	17
18	18			46	18	new		74	18			102	18			130	18			158	18			186	18
19	19			47	19			75	19			103	19			131	19	prev		159	19			187	19
20	20	prev		48	20			76	20			104	20			132	20			160	20			188	20
21	21			49	21			77	21			105	21	new		133	21			161	21			189	21
22	22			50	22			78	22			106	22			134	22			162	22			190	22	new
23	23			51	23			79	23	match		107	23			135	23			163	23			191	23
24	24			52	24	prev		80	24			108	24			136	24			164	24	new		192	24
25	25			53	25			81	25			109	25			137	25			165	25			193	25
26	26	prev		54	26			82	26			110	26			138	26	new		166	26			194	26
27	27			55	27			83	27			111	27	prev		139	27			167	27			195	27
28	28			56	28			84	28			112	28			140	28			168	28			196	28

As the first civil month starts on New Mun, and contains 5 newmuns, we can call the first civil month Munuary.
Kerbals can do it, too.

Following the traditional schemes of 7-into-12 mapping
Sun (Leo) - Moon (Cancer)
Mercury (Gemini - Virgo)
Venus (Taurus - Libra)
Mars (Aries - Scorpio)
Jupiter (Sagittarius - Pisces)
Saturn (Capricorn - Aquarius)
and
Sunday - Monday
Tuesday (Tyr - Mars)
Wednesday (Wodan/Odin - Mercury)
Thursday (Thor - Jupiter)
Friday (Freya - Venus)
Saturday (Saturn)
or
dies Lunae
dies Martis
dies Mercurii
dies Iovis
dies Veneris
dies Saturni
dies Solis

we can identify the 7th month as Sunuary (Sunday before Monday, Sun next to the Mun in zodiac),
6th month as Eeluary (if Saturn matches Eeloo, precedes Sun in weekday names and in zodiac),
but Mohuary, Evuary, Jooluary, and Dunuary in the human systems look broken, as the weekdays don't match the zodiac signs.

Looking at these two systems, we can notice that the astrological one is more reasonable.
fast Mercury follows faster Moon, is followed by less fast Venus;
slowest Saturn follows slow Jupiter;
and Mars is in the middle.

So, we can consider the astrological system more sane, and follow it.

Kerbal civil month are: Munuary, Mohuary, Evuary, Dunuary, Jooluary, Eeluary, Sunuary. Each of four civil weeks or two civil fortnights.
Kerbal civil weekdays are: Munday, Mohday, Eveday, Dunday, Joolday, Eelday, Sunday.

The civil year is 196 solar days long, consists of 7 civil months or 30 lunar weeks, or 15 lunar fortnights (13 days each).

Indiction = 37 civil years.
The solar year is just a 1/17th part of the civil indiction and interests anyone not more that the date when the Earth is passing her periapsis.

Wizards' year is 349 solar days long.

Kraken's year is 349 civil years long (~102 human years)
Kraken's indiction is 5 933 civil years long (~1 483 human years).

Minmus, aka The Moon of Mages, is not included, due to its specific status. A cursor, a joker.

Dres does not exist.
Can you find its astrological or weekday equivalent? Thus, Dres is something wrong.

Basically, so.

Edited April 4 by kerbiloid

[Urus28]

I think we need an horoscope now

[Nuke]

you know kerbin doesn't have any axial tilt and its orbit is circular. part of the reason our calendar is what it is was because it was designed with agriculture in mind. but on a planet without seasons, there is no reason to have a complex calendar. meeks and minths does let you track tidal events (along with time of day for solar tides), which will be the primary use of the calendar. kerbin has enough water, and kerbals float, so there was likely a rich seafarer tradition amongst the ancient kerbals (fishing for skwids, a common snack when deep fried, marketed as skwideos or kraken-rings). tides would also indicate when it is safe for landlubbers and sailors to visit the sea shore, as 3 tidal sources stacking is likely going to cause some flood issues, or reduce navigable waterways for the stacked low tides. something to think about.

 

interesting factoid, ancient kerbal lore states that a skwid once grew so angry with the kerbal's insatiable lust for their primary snakstuff, that it swore an oath to destroy all that kerbalkind has created. some say though some magic and others by consuming a very large number of klankton (small singlecellular organisms abundant in the kerbin oceans), the kraken grew to massive proportions and started hunting kerbal skwiding boats. a brave kerbal by the name of jibidia kerman (jebediah kerman's ancestor) set out in a grand quest to slay the kraken. thus he sailed a skwiding ship full of explodium into the depths of the great kerbin sea. when the kraken swallowed the ship whole, with jibidia at the helm, it is said that the kraken was cast out beyond the mun, perhaps even beyond minmus to lie in wait while it plotted its revenge. at least that's the story on the back of the kraken-rings bag.

Edited April 6 by Nuke

[AstroWolfie]

What about holidays? Squad made animations for various holidays, here are a few.

 

How would these fit into the 8-month Kalendar?

edit: In the kerbal holiday video, you see a clock that clearly reads December 24. 

[Jcklemme]

Here are some month names, if I may make a suggestion:

1. Launchuary - Starts the year off
2. Feblast - This is my least favorite one.
3. Sprorbit - First Minth of Spring
4. Mayday - May + Mayday.  Or just mayday I guess.
5. Jebedune - First Minth of Summer - Mix of Jebediah, Duna, and June
6. Jooly - Should be selfexplanatory
7. Astronautumn - First Minth of Autumn
8. Docktober - Docking + October

Feel free to disregard if you hate them!

[BA-Forums]

On 4/4/2024 at 8:38 AM, kerbiloid said:

Why would the Kerbals need a solar "year", when their equator tilt iz zero, so the Kerbin doesn't have seasons, and thus the vegetation period of their autotrophs doesn't depend on their Sun at all?

It depends only on the chemical reactions rate, on day-night number, and maybe on the munar tides (as they live at the coastline).

How could they even know about the solar year except from the nerdish astronomy studies? They don't have equinoxes and solstices.

They can see bright spots in the sky: Sun, Mun, and to some extent Minmus.

They can see that the Kerbin solar day = 21 600.000 s
 

They know about the Mun phases, and about the ecliptic line.
So, by counting the Mun passes in front of the Sun, they know the Mun synodic orbital period  = 141 115.4 s

Thus they know that the Mun is passing in front of the Sun every 141 115.4 / 21 600.0 ~= 6.53312 solar days ~= 6 ¹⁶/₃₀ solar days (almost precisely).
(They had calculated it by dividing 196 days by 30 passes they took).

As 196 days is very close to the Earth plants vegetation period, the Kerbal autotrophic organisms probably have something similar.

Thus, the equivalent of the Earth's agricultural solar year on Kerbin is a 196 days period (= 4 x 7 x 7), which consists of 30 Mun phase periods, which are basically Kerbal week.
This gives to them a 7-day long civil week, a 4-week = 28-day long civil month, and 7-month = 28-week = 196-day long civil year.
It exactly matches the 30-lunar-month long lunar year. Both start from New Mun.
So, the civil Kerbals have 7 equal months in a year, and 7 days in a week. This is obviously a tip from above.

They are aware, that their Sun is moving straightly in fron of the stars, returning to the same position every
Sidereal orbital period  =  9 203 545 s  = 426 d 0 h 32 m 24.6 s

So what who cares of those silly dots on the sky?
They are funny for nerds, but make no effect in the Kerbal life, as they don't have seasons to say: "Look, the Sun is almost at the Kraken Minor eye. We have ten days to prepare our harvesting tools."
The stars mean nothing for the Kerbals.

As nothing means the solar year.

Of course, the Kerbal nerds know that the Sun returns to the Kraken Minor eye every 426 days (and 32 minutes) = 2 x 3 x 71 days, but so what?
Nobody else cares.

Look at the Muslim calendar. It doesn't refer to the Sun at all. When you live close to the equator in a desert with rare rains, the seasons differ much less than at the Polar Circle. Actually you barely need the "year" at all.

426 / 196 = 2.173469 ~= 2 ³/₁₇
So, they know that every 17 returns of Sol to the Star, and every 37 phase periods of Mun-Sun (30 Mun phase periods each).
It's very nice for their astronomers, but has no effect on nything else.
This 17-solar-year period is like the "indiction" in medieval year counting (just the Earthlings had it 15-year long). Had no sense in daily life, but was always mentioned in chronology and used in religious practice.

So, every 37 civil years they celebrate the jubilee, The New Indiction.
It's 37 x 196 x 6 /24 / 365.2422 ~= 5 human years.

 

They are aware of Minmus, and that its Sidereal orbital period = 1 077 311 s ~= 49.875 Kerbin solar days.
The Minmus is too small, its phases are barely visible, and its 49.875 days period is too blurry, so it doesn't play a role in Kerbal civil life.

But it doesn't mean it's meaningless at all.  Vice versa, it's significant.

It's period = 49.8755 days = 7 x 7 + ⁶/₇ days.
As the Kerbal civil week is 7 day long, and the civil year is 7 month long, and there are 7 visible major planets (Sun, Mun, Moho, Eve, Dune, Jool, Eeloo), the Kerbal mysticism is based on the septenary of something, just like the human one.

Thus as the Minmus period is basically seven of seven days, or seven weeks, and only the wizards can see the dim light of its phases, the Minmus is also known as The Moon Of Mages, The Night Crystal, The Cold Eye of Heaven/Abyss _{(a long-lasting scholastic debate between different mystic  schools)}, and plays an important role in Kerbal mysticism and magikk.

Thus, the Kerbal mages operate with a (7 x 7 + ⁶/₇) x 7 = 349 day long period, which they call a wizards' year.
The Moon of Mages (aka Minmus) makes 7 full passes around the star sky, and then the mystical cycle repeats.

This period doesn't match any profane activity, it's purely mystical.
As 349 is prime number, and 196 isn't, it again highlights the superiority of the wizards' world over the mundane one.

Every 349*196 = 68 404 Kerbal solar days the year beginnings match each other, and thus every 349 civil years (i.e. once per  human century) Kerbals fear of Kraken, destroying the Universe.
Even more potentially dangerous are every 17th of such dates, when not just a civil year, but an indiction starts together with the wizards' year, every 53 civil years.

Thus, the 349 civil year long period is called Kraken's year, while 5 933 civil years are a Kraken's indiction (about 1483 human years).
The Kerbals believe that the world appeared when the Sun, the Mun, and the Minmus were in conjunction.

 

Now let's have a look at the days.
The civil year is 7 x 4 x 7 = 196, the lunar year is 30 x 6 ¹⁶/₃₀= 196.
Both begin simultaneously.
The civil months and the Mun periods don't match each other, they are 28:30 per year.
This means that any day is integer itself, but contains a non-integer part of the lunar period.
Two civil weeks repeat every fortnight, two Mun periods repeat every ~13 days (6.53312 * 2 = 13.066).

196 = 14 * 2 * 7 and ~15 * 13

This adds two more intervals to the Kerbal time measurement system, a civil fortnight (14 Kerbal days) and a lunar fortnight (13 Kerbal days).
Also, it adds the 13 (a Mun dozen) to the Kerbal numerology an mysticism, as a sign of superiority of Kerbal sapient nature above the blind natural forces, giving them one more day per fortnight.
The Kerbals believe that low-level species have a 13 fortnight, while Kerbal have two 7-day weeks.
13 is a wild nature (some say, Kraken's), chaotic number, while 7 is a number of the sapient Kerbal order.

Thus, every day of the civil year belongs to a civil fortnight, and to a lunar fortnight.
The day, when the lunar period is changed, is mystically significant.

It happens every 6 ¹⁶/₃₀th day, on the days of year:

0	32 4/15	64 14/15	97 3/5	130 8/15	163 1/5
6 8/15	38 4/5	71 7/15	104 2/15	137 1/15	169 11/15
13 1/15	45 1/3	78	110 14/15	143 3/5	176 4/15
19 3/15	51 13/15	84 8/15	117 7/15	150 2/15	182 4/5
25 11/15	58 2/5	91 1/15	124	156 2/3	189 1/3

So, as we can see, some fixed days of civil year are New Muns, and some of them have >1/2 as fraction part (i.e. mostly from the previous/current Munar period, while others have < 1/2. The 78th and the 124th seem integer, but just due to the rounding error between 6.53312 and 6 16/30.)

1 match	33 new	65 prev	98 prev	131 prev	164 new
7 prev	39 prev	72 new	105 new	138 new	170 prev
14 new	46 new	79 match	111 prev	144 prev	177 new
20 prev	52 prev	85 prev	118 prev	151 new	183 prev
26 prev	59 new	92 new	125 match	157 prev	190 new

The Kerbal civil months are 28 days long: 1..28, 29..56, 57..84, 85..112, 113..140, 141..168, 169..196 day of year.

So, the New Muns are distributed between civil months this way:

doy	dom	newmun		doy	dom	newmun		doy	dom	newmun		doy	dom	newmun		doy	dom	newmun		doy	dom	newmun		doy	dom	newmun
1	1	match		29	1			57	1			85	1	prev		113	1			141	1			169	1
2	2			30	2			58	2			86	2			114	2			142	2			170	2	prev
3	3			31	3			59	3	new		87	3			115	3			143	3			171	3
4	4			32	4			60	4			88	4			116	4			144	4	prev		172	4
5	5			33	5	new		61	5			89	5			117	5			145	5			173	5
6	6			34	6			62	6			90	6			118	6	prev		146	6			174	6
7	7	prev		35	7			63	7			91	7			119	7			147	7			175	7
8	8			36	8			64	8			92	8	new		120	8			148	8			176	8
9	9			37	9			65	9	prev		93	9			121	9			149	9			177	9	new
10	10			38	10			66	10			94	10			122	10			150	10			178	10
11	11			39	11	prev		67	11			95	11			123	11			151	11	new		179	11
12	12			40	12			68	12			96	12			124	12			152	12			180	12
13	13			41	13			69	13			97	13			125	13	match		153	13			181	13
14	14	new		42	14			70	14			98	14	prev		126	14			154	14			182	14
15	15			43	15			71	15			99	15			127	15			155	15			183	15	prev
16	16			44	16			72	16	new		100	16			128	16			156	16			184	16
17	17			45	17			73	17			101	17			129	17			157	17	prev		185	17
18	18			46	18	new		74	18			102	18			130	18			158	18			186	18
19	19			47	19			75	19			103	19			131	19	prev		159	19			187	19
20	20	prev		48	20			76	20			104	20			132	20			160	20			188	20
21	21			49	21			77	21			105	21	new		133	21			161	21			189	21
22	22			50	22			78	22			106	22			134	22			162	22			190	22	new
23	23			51	23			79	23	match		107	23			135	23			163	23			191	23
24	24			52	24	prev		80	24			108	24			136	24			164	24	new		192	24
25	25			53	25			81	25			109	25			137	25			165	25			193	25
26	26	prev		54	26			82	26			110	26			138	26	new		166	26			194	26
27	27			55	27			83	27			111	27	prev		139	27			167	27			195	27
28	28			56	28			84	28			112	28			140	28			168	28			196	28

As the first civil month starts on New Mun, and contains 5 newmuns, we can call the first civil month Munuary.
Kerbals can do it, too.

Following the traditional schemes of 7-into-12 mapping
Sun (Leo) - Moon (Cancer)
Mercury (Gemini - Virgo)
Venus (Taurus - Libra)
Mars (Aries - Scorpio)
Jupiter (Sagittarius - Pisces)
Saturn (Capricorn - Aquarius)
and
Sunday - Monday
Tuesday (Tyr - Mars)
Wednesday (Wodan/Odin - Mercury)
Thursday (Thor - Jupiter)
Friday (Freya - Venus)
Saturday (Saturn)
or
dies Lunae
dies Martis
dies Mercurii
dies Iovis
dies Veneris
dies Saturni
dies Solis

we can identify the 7th month as Sunuary (Sunday before Monday, Sun next to the Mun in zodiac),
6th month as Eeluary (if Saturn matches Eeloo, precedes Sun in weekday names and in zodiac),
but Mohuary, Evuary, Jooluary, and Dunuary in the human systems look broken, as the weekdays don't match the zodiac signs.

Looking at these two systems, we can notice that the astrological one is more reasonable.
fast Mercury follows faster Moon, is followed by less fast Venus;
slowest Saturn follows slow Jupiter;
and Mars is in the middle.

So, we can consider the astrological system more sane, and follow it.

Kerbal civil month are: Munuary, Mohuary, Evuary, Dunuary, Jooluary, Eeluary, Sunuary. Each of four civil weeks or two civil fortnights.
Kerbal civil weekdays are: Munday, Mohday, Eveday, Dunday, Joolday, Eelday, Sunday.

The civil year is 196 solar days long, consists of 7 civil months or 30 lunar weeks, or 15 lunar fortnights (13 days each).

Indiction = 37 civil years.
The solar year is just a 1/17th part of the civil indiction and interests anyone not more that the date when the Earth is passing her periapsis.

Wizards' year is 349 solar days long.

Kraken's year is 349 civil years long (~102 human years)
Kraken's indiction is 5 933 civil years long (~1 483 human years).

Minmus, aka The Moon of Mages, is not included, due to its specific status. A cursor, a joker.

Dres does not exist.
Can you find its astrological or weekday equivalent? Thus, Dres is something wrong.

Basically, so.

what

is there a day where the Kerbals just eat snacks?

that is all i need to know.

[AstroWolfie]

17 hours ago, Jcklemme said:

Astronautumn - First Minth of Autumn

Astra Militiarum?

Edited April 8 by AstroWolfie