darthgently Posted Saturday at 01:10 PM Share Posted Saturday at 01:10 PM One of the topics here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSchmuckatelli Posted Saturday at 03:06 PM Share Posted Saturday at 03:06 PM Quote Deep Space Network should be in deep space AFAIK we only have 2 craft in deep space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSchmuckatelli Posted Saturday at 03:23 PM Share Posted Saturday at 03:23 PM ... But, yeah, I have long wondered why we don't have radio telescopes at L4&L5, a Mars relay, etc. Possible Starship missions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthgently Posted Saturday at 05:20 PM Author Share Posted Saturday at 05:20 PM 2 hours ago, JoeSchmuckatelli said: AFAIK we only have 2 craft in deep space. The DSN handles way more than VGR1&2. Rovers on Mars for example. Solar probes, course corrections for this and that. I've tended to assume"deep space" in the DSN context means beyond the Earth-Moon system, not halfway to Arrakis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSchmuckatelli Posted Saturday at 06:34 PM Share Posted Saturday at 06:34 PM 1 hour ago, darthgently said: The DSN handles way more than VGR1&2. Rovers on Mars for example. Solar probes, course corrections for this and that. I've tended to assume"deep space" in the DSN context means beyond the Earth-Moon system, not halfway to Arrakis Grin - I know: your video did a great job of explaining. Besides, everyone knows the only way to communicate with Arrakis is via spicetrance. Putting massive radio telescopes at L4&L5 is just a pet hope of mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnemoe Posted Saturday at 07:06 PM Share Posted Saturday at 07:06 PM 1 hour ago, darthgently said: The DSN handles way more than VGR1&2. Rovers on Mars for example. Solar probes, course corrections for this and that. I've tended to assume"deep space" in the DSN context means beyond the Earth-Moon system, not halfway to Arrakis This, now I kind of suspect future missions will move more over to use lasers as the bandwidth intense links, suspect lasers will also be better at long distance communication. But this pretty much require receivers in space or bad weather can block you off. But you probably just need one satellite looking at mars to receive the signals from multiple probes there same for other planets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuke Posted Monday at 07:42 PM Share Posted Monday at 07:42 PM i have a similar issue with the term outer space. outside of what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegarrison Posted Tuesday at 03:30 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 03:30 PM How can space be "deep" if I have to go up to get to it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthgently Posted Tuesday at 07:23 PM Author Share Posted Tuesday at 07:23 PM (edited) I kind of liked the term from Firefly: the Black. Firefly Theme Lyrics Spoiler The Ballad of Serenity Lyrics by Joss Whedon( written by Joss Whedon, performed by Sonny Rhodes) Take my love, take my land, Take me where I cannot stand. I don't care, I'm still free, You can't take the sky from me. Take me out to the black, Tell them I ain't comin back. Burn the land and boil the sea, You can't take the sky from me. There's no place, I can be, Since I've found Serenity. And you can't take the sky from me. [*Full version:] (*Note: unverified submission) Take my love, take my land Take me where I cannot stand I don't care, I'm still free You can't take the sky from me. Take me out to the black Tell them I ain't comin' back Burn the land and boil the sea You can't take the sky from me. Leave the men where they lay They'll never see another day Lost my soul, lost my dream You can't take the sky from me. I feel the black reaching out I hear its song without a doubt I still hear and I still see That you can't take the sky from me. Lost my love, lost my land Lost the last place I could stand There's no place I can be Since I've found Serenity And you can't take the sky from me. [Thanks to alligirl1210, andrewzabar for correcting these lyrics] Copyright: Lyrics © Original Writer and Publisher source: https://www.lyricsondemand.com/tvthemes/fireflylyrics.html Edited Tuesday at 07:31 PM by darthgently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDE Posted Tuesday at 07:27 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 07:27 PM 23 hours ago, Nuke said: i have a similar issue with the term outer space. outside of what? ...atmosphere, usually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuke Posted Tuesday at 07:31 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 07:31 PM 6 minutes ago, darthgently said: I kind of liked the term from Firefly: the Black. Firefly Theme Lyrics The Ballad of Serenity Lyrics by Joss Whedon( written by Joss Whedon, performed by Sonny Rhodes) Take my love, take my land, Take me where I cannot stand. I don't care, I'm still free, You can't take the sky from me. Take me out to the black, Tell them I ain't comin back. Burn the land and boil the sea, You can't take the sky from me. There's no place, I can be, Since I've found Serenity. And you can't take the sky from me. [*Full version:] (*Note: unverified submission) Take my love, take my land Take me where I cannot stand I don't care, I'm still free You can't take the sky from me. Take me out to the black Tell them I ain't comin' back Burn the land and boil the sea You can't take the sky from me. Leave the men where they lay They'll never see another day Lost my soul, lost my dream You can't take the sky from me. I feel the black reaching out I hear its song without a doubt I still hear and I still see That you can't take the sky from me. Lost my love, lost my land Lost the last place I could stand There's no place I can be Since I've found Serenity And you can't take the sky from me. [Thanks to alligirl1210, andrewzabar for correcting these lyrics] Copyright: Lyrics © Original Writer and Publisher source: https://www.lyricsondemand.com/tvthemes/fireflylyrics.html this might be one of the best sci-fi theme songs ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codraroll Posted Tuesday at 09:12 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 09:12 PM My understanding is that the Deep Space Network services Deep Space (in the "anything beyond the Earth and the Moon" definition of the term), but in itself it's located conveniently close. Similar to how the Foreign Secretary isn't a foreign national. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gargamel Posted Tuesday at 09:30 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 09:30 PM 17 minutes ago, Codraroll said: Foreign Secretary isn't a foreign national. They are to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnemoe Posted yesterday at 07:11 AM Share Posted yesterday at 07:11 AM 9 hours ago, Codraroll said: My understanding is that the Deep Space Network services Deep Space (in the "anything beyond the Earth and the Moon" definition of the term), but in itself it's located conveniently close. Similar to how the Foreign Secretary isn't a foreign national. Yes, if you include the L1 and L2, can not imagine Web uses it. And then I talked about communication lasers in space they would be in earth orbit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuke Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago On 5/28/2024 at 11:27 AM, DDE said: ...atmosphere, usually. so just space then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AckSed Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago Hm. Deep-space monitoring of probes might be a service a future Lunar base could offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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