A Message from Nate Simpson

[pk9sp]

Nate Simpson has posted a message: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyRC1lWXmKU

Edited December 5 by pk9sp

[RileyHef]

I hope that Nate Simpson can find a job/happiness again and that this video provides some sort of closure for the KSP community. 

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(I also hope this thread doesn't become another black hole debate about semantics or placing blame like every other recent KSP2 Discussion post, lol.)

KSP2 was a strange experience. I'm happy that I can still enjoy the original KSP game and hope one day another developer can capture the unique magic of silly space sims again.

[The Space Peacock]

i'm just glad to hear from him again. he sounds as devestated by this as the rest of us. we all deserved better.

[PDCWolf]

I can't fully say the brunt of what I think of this video here so I left that on reddit. All I'll say here is this is ego-stroking, and a rambling born out of frustration of being unable to find a job. I'm not happy he's there, but I do not think it's undeserved. Hate when a guy calls himself a source of stress for his coworkers (after costing them their job!) and instead of just saying sorry for anything, but he justifies it by saying it's because he was "too passionate", little humble brag in it for the extra flavor.

Edit: God, I wish this forum worked for more than 5 minutes at a time.

Edit 2 to add: He does confirm KSP2 was in development for seven years, so yeah, add that to the list.

Edited December 6 by PDCWolf

[Scarecrow71]

I appreciate the sentiment, but it is 5 months too late.  This needed to come out way back in June when the studio was closed.  As it is, his words just ring hollow now.

[Tony Tony Chopper]

23 minutes ago, Scarecrow71 said:

I appreciate the sentiment, but it is 5 months too late.  This needed to come out way back in June when the studio was closed.  As it is, his words just ring hollow now.

It's said better late than never. I think you should appreciate it in that sentence. That said, there was no 'need' at all as it is as meaningless as any other piece of NDA restricted wording - let alone how difficult it is to pass through that NDA anyway. It's a bare emotion containing message a passionated member of the community just want to treat their hurt feelings. Time shouldn't matter for human feelings.

[Lisias]

  I agree with you, but not totally. What I'm going to say doesn't contradicts you (perhaps on a single point), but complements it with a different perspective.

5 hours ago, PDCWolf said:

I can't fully say the brunt of what I think of this video here so I left that on reddit. All I'll say here is this is ego-stroking, and a rambling born out of frustration of being unable to find a job.

I'm not an specialist, not even a half baked psychologist, but I want to believe I know a bit.

What I had seen is someone broken, regretful, trying hard not to collapse and trying too hard not to self blame for his own frustration. I believed when he said he passed thought the 5 stages of grief, but I think he didn't fully transitioned from Depression to Acceptance yet.

I think he's is truly emotional but, granted, I can't say if the pain if from remorse or from a fractured ego - or both.

Or the dude is a hell of a psychopath and got oriented (and rehearsed) precisely by a professional about how to behave.

 

5 hours ago, PDCWolf said:

I'm not happy he's there, but I do not think it's undeserved.

In absolutely no way I even implying otherwise. He totally dug the hole in which he is now.

But that is not a death sentence, he's entitled to move on somehow. Sooner or later he will succeed - perhaps not on what he (at least thinks) he loves, but in something else. And it's not impossible that he would be extraordinarily successful on a totally different profession - he got some new skills while living this crapstorm, and such skills are valuable to someone.

 

5 hours ago, PDCWolf said:

Hate when a guy calls himself a source of stress for his coworkers (after costing them their job!) and instead of just saying sorry for anything, but he justifies it by saying it's because he was "too passionate", little humble brag in it for the extra flavor.

Unless the video I watched now was edited or replaced, this is not exactly what I had seen.

What I think I had seen is someone trying to making amends, apologizing the best he can about his mistakes without risking a lawsuit. And he was probably oriented by his shrink to do that, because this is a necessary step to recover from a deep depression as apparently he is passing through: forgiving and asking for forgiveness.

And I quote:

Quote

um and I think sometimes the

the the weight of that caused me to to

fail to recognize

healthy work life

boundaries um and I I really want to

apologize especially to my co-workers

who got slack messages from me either at

night or on

https://youtu.be/YyRC1lWXmKU?t=236

And he even mentioned two people by the name while apologizing for the hassle.

Now, it really looks like he rehearsed the discourse, and it sounded a bit artificial - granted.  It may be because he don't really think this way, but want to pass the image he does, or perhaps because he's scared to death from being sued due something he may say that could be used against him on a lawsuit. And so rehearsed what he was going to say a dozen times until it became a muscular memory, losing authenticity.

He is sitting over a 100M USD blunder, and he's not stupid. This would surely scare the sheet out of me, and I AM a seasoned professional that had seen things even worse - I had dodged a bullet now and then on my life, I know how deep this rabbit's hole can go.

That said, I agree with you that he may not had overcome his ego problem yet - on that particular grief in PT-BR, we call this "Ferida Narcísica" : the death of your own ego is a hell of pain that every person lives sooner or later (the sooner, the better).

 

5 hours ago, Scarecrow71 said:

I appreciate the sentiment, but it is 5 months too late.  This needed to come out way back in June when the studio was closed.  As it is, his words just ring hollow now.

He's not doing it for you. He's doing it for himself.

Don't take me wrong, I'm not saying he's egoistical on this matter, I'm only trying to explain how people works - truly repentance happens from inside to outside. Or never happens at all.

 

4 hours ago, Tony Tony Chopper said:

It's said better late than never. I think you should appreciate it in that sentence.

That's the thing: if he's caring about being appreciated, he's not being honest neither taking the path to self-evolution.

He should not be doing it because he need wants something, because he owns us doing it and needs to pay a debt. Feeling obliged to pay his debts is just another form of narcissism ("A Lannister always pays his debits"). If he's is walking the path to self-healing, he's doing it because he needs to make amends, and people make amends by recognizing the errors in their ways and finding a way to amend that - what doesn't necessarily means fixing it.

 

4 hours ago, Tony Tony Chopper said:

That said, there was no 'need' at all as it is as meaningless as any other piece of NDA restricted wording - let alone how difficult it is to pass through that NDA anyway.

Yes, I agree. That NDA is weighting badly on his mind while he talks.

 

4 hours ago, Tony Tony Chopper said:

It's a bare emotion containing message a passionated member of the community just want to treat their hurt feelings.

That's where I disagree. Human feelings can be manipulated, and there're people expert on doing that. Only people that had to deal with malignant narcissists can really appreciate how good some people are on this.

You can't just handle everybody as potential malignant narcissists, otherwise you would be the one doing harm. But it's healthy to consider that, probably, you may bump one someday and it would be healthy to you to avoid being trapped by them.

Apparently, he's being authentic - but I had survived some of these <insert your favorite non forum compliant expletive here> to know that the first step to avoid the trap is knowing a trap exists - and choosing not to fall on it.

I will not pinpoint my finger to him, yelling in accusation

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But I will keep my glasses in hand, just in case.

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4 hours ago, Tony Tony Chopper said:

Time shouldn't matter for human feelings.

Time solves everything. Time fixes everything, Time cures anything. Including human feelings.

Nothing lasts forever.

Edited December 6 by Lisias
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[Fizzlebop Smith]

Well... sometimes a bad reputation will last until it no longer matters.

I feel there was genuine emotion, but it may be due to reason I am not fully aware.

There has been a great deal of speculation.. Indeed enough to split the community. Many in the industry seem to disagree ... but the circumstantial evidence must account for something. 

I was amazing at how quickly they scooped up people fro KSP1 / KSP2 on the rocketwerkz project. Seems like every key or critical person was either acquired or at least offered a position...

2 am calls to creative.. guess they need to make sure that texture/ cutscene was on point? Because that's where the game needed focus.

I am going to take closure. It must have been hard. Regardless whether it was confronting failure, lasting repercussions, or genuine KSP fan emotion... he came out and apologized a little and swallowed a lot of pride / grief.

 

[Bej Kerman]

Hopefully he succeeds in finding a new job, and hopefully that job isn't for a corporation that doesn't know if it wants him to work on a DLC for an existing game or make a sequel from scratch. And will only give him the budget and the resources for the former either way.

Edited December 6 by Bej Kerman

[Scarecrow71]

2 hours ago, Lisias said:

He's not doing it for you. He's doing it for himself.

It doesn't matter who he is doing it for.  This is the first time he even addressed the community after finding out the studio was closing.  He needed to do this months ago.

2 hours ago, Lisias said:

truly repentance happens from inside to outside.

Here's a different take on it:  He's in a 12-step program and has finally reached the part where he has to apologize and make amends?  Long shot, but could be.

1 hour ago, Bej Kerman said:

And will only give him the budget and the resources for the former either way.

Pretty sure his budget was for creating mods, but what do I know?

[PDCWolf]

10 hours ago, Lisias said:

  I agree with you, but not totally. What I'm going to say doesn't contradicts you (perhaps on a single point), but complements it with a different perspective.

I'm not an specialist, not even a half baked psychologist, but I want to believe I know a bit.

What I had seen is someone broken, regretful, trying hard not to collapse and trying too hard not to self blame for his own frustration. I believed when he said he passed thought the 5 stages of grief, but I think he didn't fully transitioned from Depression to Acceptance yet.

I think he's is truly emotional but, granted, I can't say if the pain if from remorse or from a fractured ego - or both.

Or the dude is a hell of a psychopath and got oriented (and rehearsed) precisely by a professional about how to behave.

Okay first off unless someone quotes me further this is my last message on this discussion, I don't think this is the place for picking so much on someone specially because I've said what I wanted to already.

You see "trying too hard not to self blame" I see him the first minute of the video, and what's gonna be a theme for the rest, and that is him saying he was the most passionate, the one to carry the heaviest boulder, the one putting his face to the project, making promises, it's all about him and how he did  and risked more than anyone. Even further ahead he comes back to say how it was his dream, how -he- had to know the shape of the project from the first day, and talented people only "sometimes" helped him "push that boulder" and how he personally felt responsible for people's money.  And he even uses this to justify how he's the one that lost sight of work-life boundaries and became a source of stress for his teammates.

In fact, that is the only apology he gives, and instead of just saying sorry to his teammates he spends 4 minutes (before and after the apology) justifying his behavior with ego stroking. "Waking up in the middle of the night with thoughts that couldn't be shared until eight hours later during work hours", so yeah, he's so special and so focused on the game he has to bother everyone. He's sorry for doing it but dang did he have a good reason for it out of being so passionate, and being stressed because of everything he mentioned prior.

I think you only looked at the 20 seconds of the apology where he mentions the late calls and the design team, and not all the built up to it where he's painting himself as the martyr, or the release after where he says "sorry for transmitting the stress" because clearly no one was as stressed as him.

And then once you add all his rant about having to go back to learning, of how he's marred by his name being associated with "failure to deliver" and that we don't want to look into the "abyss of his work prospects", then I'm all out of believing this is an apology video. This is a rant video, born out of frustration at not finding a job. There's no reason this video couldn't have been made 5 months prior. In fact, I think the most clear way to put it, is that I see this video as no different from Paul Furio's LinkedIn post, where the dude just says "I'm out of my job because I was too good at it and my team couldn't keep up with my level of passion and involvement." 

As an unrelated note, reading his post about how he's so good because even though he's not there anymore, his leadership skills built such a star team at intercept that's gonna take the game to release and stardom is SO. FUNNY. right now.

[para 9]

This community is pathetic and deserves what it gets. The simpery is off the charts. 

[kerbiloid]

It's hard to say something definite about true emotions of a person from the society where everyone is smiling to each other every moment without a reason, apologizes where nobody cares about, and tries to inspire every desperate attempt doomed to fail.

The only thing, which I can say for sure is that, while I was never going to purchase KSP-2 in any way after knowing its system requirements, it clarified for me the desired requirements to recently buy the new desktop for the modded KSP-1, so the KSP-2 didn't pass in vain.

[Lisias]

I think that the language barrier bit my cheeks...

2 hours ago, PDCWolf said:

You see "trying too hard not to self blame" I see him the first minute of the video, and what's gonna be a theme for the rest, and that is him saying he was the most passionate, the one to carry the heaviest boulder, the one putting his face to the project, making promises, it's all about him and how he did  and risked more than anyone. Even further ahead he comes back to say how it was his dream, how -he- had to know the shape of the project from the first day, and talented people only "sometimes" helped him "push that boulder" and how he personally felt responsible for people's money.  And he even uses this to justify how he's the one that lost sight of work-life boundaries and became a source of stress for his teammates.

Perhaps a better way to say that would be "trying too hard not to self incriminate", but since what he did is not crime, I was reticent in using any word that could be understood this way. Apparently, I failed on choosing a good one - but, and again, the word "incriminate" is also highly incorrect, and I used it here in an attempt to clarify what I had intended to mean.

Yes, I had noticed the rationalization he did to explain why he did things the way he did. I blame it to that "everybody wants to be the next Steve Jobs" or, worst, the next "Bill Gates", trend that is infecting the USA's industry since the 80's.

Most people read about how these dudes managed their staff and fails to understand that they managed to succeed BESIDES these major screw-ups, and not due them. And Nate, obviously, appears to be one of these.

 

2 hours ago, PDCWolf said:

I think you only looked at the 20 seconds of the apology where he mentions the late calls and the design team, and not all the built up to it where he's painting himself as the martyr, or the release after where he says "sorry for transmitting the stress" because clearly no one was as stressed as him.

I like to believe that I had looked beyound what was said on the video.

I agree with you that there's a good chance he didn't overcomed what I had called "Ferida Narcísica", and that he may be struggling to heal that. TL;DR: he knows that he screwed up, but he can't see exactly how because the don't want to look on the right place. He, apparently, is not ready to that yet - being the reason I think he's still struggling on the transition from Depression to Acceptance. He rationally knows he screwed up, but his ego is still blinding him about the real reason - i.e., he didn't managed to internalize this concept yet.

EDIT: Or he is scared of admitting it publicly. Hell, he did signed a NDA and I forgot how litigious USA's society is!

 

2 hours ago, PDCWolf said:

And then once you add all his rant about having to go back to learning, of how he's marred by his name being associated with "failure to deliver" and that we don't want to look into the "abyss of his work prospects", then I'm all out of believing this is an apology video. This is a rant video, born out of frustration at not finding a job.

Oh, yes. You poked the wound and used the whole finger on it.

Yes, the motivation behind the video is the frustration for not being able to find a job he would like - believe-me, he can find a job (perhaps a better paying one) if he finds the courage (and the guts) to look on the right places. Perhaps he did, and realized by doing it exactly how deep is the hole he dug himself into. At least for his current standards.

And this is exactly the reason I believe that he will, eventually, reach "redemption" (besides not today).

You see, pain is the ultimate motivator for self-healing. People don't break the comfort of the numbness unless compelled to.

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2 hours ago, PDCWolf said:

In fact, I think the most clear way to put it, is that I see this video as no different from Paul Furio's LinkedIn post, where the dude just says "I'm out of my job because I was too good at it and my team couldn't keep up with my level of passion and involvement."

I don't see any resemblance.  Furio was about "I did my best, they failed to accomplish the tasks besides my best efforts".

Nate is trying to figure out where he had failed. I agree with you that his ego may be still preventing him from grasping it, but I disagree where you see he's not trying. He is, he's only (still) failing on "internalizing" exactly where he erred - but once he ran out of options, he concluded that he's the responsible for the situation, besides not grasping yet how. Better late than never.

 

2 hours ago, para 9 said:

This community is pathetic and deserves what it gets. The simpery is off the charts. 

Agreed. And you are a more than welcomed member of it, by the way. Just saying..

 

1 hour ago, kerbiloid said:

It's hard to say something definite about true emotions of a person from the society where everyone is smiling to each other every moment without a reason, apologizes where nobody cares about, and tries to inspire every desperate attempt doomed to fail.

Being the reason it's healthy to double guess when someone that did a tremendous borkage like KSP2 reaches the public to "apologize". Some of them are only trying to find a way out of the problem so they can keep doing things like they always had in the past, trying to exploit excessively compassionate (or guilty) people as leverage against the few that really is able to see thought their flimsy skin.

The problem is that "self-righteously" is equally damaging. Heck, even convicted drivers are entitled to have support and I don't see anyone calling 'simpery' on them.

People make mistakes. Some really bad. Check the Aviation Safety Regulations - that books were written in blood. Lots of blood. Had the aviation industry not be "simpery" (please note the quotes), we would not have an Aviation Industry at all - be because they would had run out of aviators, be because they had run out of customers.

Dead people don't buy tickets.

 

1 hour ago, kerbiloid said:

The only thing, which I can say for sure is that, while I was never going to purchase KSP-2 in any way after knowing its system requirements, it clarified for me the desired requirements to recently buy the new desktop for the modded KSP-1, so the KSP-2 didn't pass in vain.

You see... Once the new owner figures out the world of pain he got involved to, they will eventually reevaluate the assets and, with a bit of luck, precify them correctly. Don't be surprise if KSP¹ gets a price increase after a good face-lifting.

It's not impossible that buying a KSP2 copy would be a good deal eventually - heck, this Scene is known for this "moddability". If the current IP owner authorizes if properly, you can bet your mouse someone will try.

Edited December 6 by Lisias
EDIT: litigous

[Gargamel]

A number of posts have been removed.     There is no need to personally attack other community members just because their opinion differs from yours.   

[jost]

16 hours ago, Scarecrow71 said:

It doesn't matter who he is doing it for.  This is the first time he even addressed the community after finding out the studio was closing.  He needed to do this months ago.

And risk a lawsuit because of it? Especially after such an epic blunder which might damage or destroy my career for a long time or completly I definitively woudn't risk my only hope to ever get a job  again by breaking a NDA just to "address the community" of a video game. And I'm not only talking about the video game industry (that ship is propably sailed for him!): Any company won't hire people who are not only known for a failed project (which might still have a good explaination ) but also for breaking contracts.  Failing at a project is one thing and often enough not the sole fault of one person. Breaking a contract is the decision of the person breaking it and obviously will hurt this persons long-time prospect on the job market. 
Apologizing to the team members is a different thing though (calls at 2 am seriously?!? I would quit on the spot if my boss would do such a thing in a non-emergency situation!) if he didn't manage that on their last common days at IG this would be quite a shame. But in the end it's between and his former team members. You or I don't really have a stake in it. Some folks  think that this community "simping" is pathetic. I think it's quite more pathetic to expect people to risk lawsuits and their means of existence due to video games communities of all things.  Nobody needs to like it but you can'T  expect people to behave even more self-destructing than they already have.

 

[para 9]

"think it's quite more pathetic to expect people to risk lawsuits and their means of existence due to video games communities of all things.  Nobody needs to like it but you can'T  expect people to behave even more self-destructing than they already have."

 

I never said or implied anything of the kind. What I find pathetic is the community fawning over a self-serving fake apology, where Nate's primary goal appears to be eliciting sympathy from his credulous scam victims.  If he wants to honor his NDA, the best way would be to just go away and keep quiet about this.  I don't care what Nate has to say, because he's a liar. I never said or implied he should make any statements, because I'd prefer to never hear from him again.

 

Separate point, but Nate should also forget about seeking future employment in the games industry.  We don't need more of his EA rug pulls. He should probably pump and dump some penny stocks or meme coins. I think he'd do very well at that.

 

Edited December 6 by para 9
profanity filter, clarity

[Bej Kerman]

11 minutes ago, para 9 said:

What I find pathetic is the community fawning over a self-serving fake apology, where Nate's primary goal appears to be eliciting sympathy from his credulous scam victims.

And not people going through the five stages of grief over a video game, or people claiming that a creative director at Take Two had authority over KSP 2's price and release?

12 minutes ago, para 9 said:

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Lol

[para 9]

Take Two goons held a gun to Nate's head and compelled him to lie to the public about the state of the game. Poor Nate. He suffers and toils tirelessly like Sisyphus for our sake, and the thanks he gets is to be crucified by the corpos and haters. He tried for our sins. 

It was probably Take Two suits who forced Nate to push Planetary Annihilation into EA too, before Nate exited from that project.  It isn't like Nate had a track record of doing this exact same thing before. Nope, gotta be the corpos behind it all. 

Edited December 6 by para 9
i like to edit.

[Scarecrow71]

1 hour ago, jost said:

And risk a lawsuit because of it?

Kind of like he's doing now?  He admitted in the video that he had to tread carefully due to the NDA.  What changed between June and now?  Right - nothing.

1 hour ago, jost said:

Especially after such an epic blunder which might damage or destroy my career for a long time or completly I definitively woudn't risk my only hope to ever get a job  again by breaking a NDA just to "address the community" of a video game. And I'm not only talking about the video game industry (that ship is propably sailed for him!)

Again, he talked about having to be careful due to the NDA and that he couldn't say much.  Which he could have done months ago as nothing has changed.

1 hour ago, jost said:

Any company won't hire people who are not only known for a failed project (which might still have a good explaination ) but also for breaking contracts.  Failing at a project is one thing and often enough not the sole fault of one person. Breaking a contract is the decision of the person breaking it and obviously will hurt this persons long-time prospect on the job market.

Well, he's done the former multiple times, but hasn't done the latter at all.

1 hour ago, jost said:

Apologizing to the team members is a different thing though (calls at 2 am seriously?!?

Which, if you've read this thread and listened to the video, he really didn't do.  "Oh, I'm so sorry I was so passionate" is not an apology to the team for screwing this up.

1 hour ago, jost said:

You or I don't really have a stake in it.

Anybody who paid $50 for the EA release has a stake in this.  We were the end users who were supposed to help shape the game through playtesting and bug reporting.

1 hour ago, jost said:

I think it's quite more pathetic to expect people to risk lawsuits and their means of existence due to video games communities of all things.  Nobody needs to like it but you can'T  expect people to behave even more self-destructing than they already have.

And I think it's pathetic when people cannot grasp simple facts.  There is nothing in the video he couldn't have said months ago.  The only difference is that while it may have healed some of the ill will then, it didn't do diddly now.  I'm not expecting him to break an NDA or to say anything untrue.  But I'll ask you simply:  What in the video did he say that he couldn't say months ago?

 

[Pthigrivi]

Ive skimmed some responses here and what is there to say. I don’t know how many people on this board have been responsible for big complicated creative projects and indirectly responsible for the livelihoods of close friends and colleagues but if you are a moral, feeling person living in the capitalist hellscape that is modern life its a brutal existence. I think a lot of people confuse business success with moral success. Honestly the fact that Elon gets lauded on this board more often than not and Nate gets dragged doesn’t say much for us. Its possible to be a good person and do everything you can to have a vision and make it happen and fail because you work in a viscous, stupid industry. I care about people and its utterly clear that Nate is a decent, creative person who found himself in an impossible position given all of the hopes for KSP2 and the corporate reality he had to contend with to see those hopes realized. I really appreciated this video and I think its hard to watch it and not see Nate as a real person who tried his best to make something cool. He fought hard for something good and lost. Ive been there myself, and I think he had exactly the right vision for what KSP2 should look like and as creative director that was his job. Of course he made bad decisions. We ALL make bad decisions. He also made a lot of good decisions and in the end a project can succeed or fail no matter what we as individuals do. I feel for the guy and Im sure he’ll find work soon. Despite KSP2’s demise he’s a talented and passionate person. Everyone who worked on the game was and I wish them all a great future working for better companies than T2. 

Edited December 7 by Pthigrivi

[Lisias]

1 hour ago, Scarecrow71 said:

Kind of like he's doing now?  He admitted in the video that he had to tread carefully due to the NDA.  What changed between June and now? 

He's running out of things to loose.

One very serious mistake that is recurrent on big corporations, USA's included (and, perhaps, in special) is their habit to corner people to a point they have nothing left to lose.

No enemy will fight you to the death if they have a way out - and some of the most spectacular military last minute turns around (where a certain victory had turned into utter defeat) have their roots on failing to acknowledge this very old adage from Sun Tzu.

That's the difference between Live and let Live, and Live and let Die.

 

1 hour ago, Scarecrow71 said:

Anybody who paid $50 for the EA release has a stake in this.  We were the end users who were supposed to help shape the game through playtesting and bug reporting.

And you were the ones indulging them into doing it.

Companies do what companies do. P.D. wasn't the first company to do such borkage, and it will not be the last while users don't take responsibility over their actions.

Users have the ultimate weapon to shape Companies' behaviour: your pocket. P.D. and TTWO would not had succeed on this crapstorm without our help.

 

1 hour ago, Bej Kerman said:

And not people going through the five stages of grief over a video game

And exactly why this bothers you so much? Why this hurts you so deep in your heart?

 

56 minutes ago, Pthigrivi said:

Ive been there myself

So do I. I didn't born a genius, I had to hack and slice my way into knowledge and (pretentiously) wisdom, leaving some corpses behind.

 

58 minutes ago, Pthigrivi said:

I feel for the guy and Im sure he’ll find work soon.

He will. In fact, the only reason he's not working right now is because he choose to bet again on this industry. I don't know if he'll succeed or not - but if everything else fails, he will find his way on another industry for sure. Failure is knowledge, and if you can prove that you will not fail again on the same things, people willing to avoid such failures will see value on hiring you.

 

1 hour ago, Pthigrivi said:

Despite KSP2’s demise he’s a talented and passionate person. Everyone who worked on the game was and I wish them all a great future working for better companies than T2. 

People easily forget what was done right. The soundtrack and the sound effects were magnificent. The tutorials were very, very good and if Squad had managed to envision how important they are, you can bet your favorite thruster KSP¹ would had reached even higher scores.

[Bej Kerman]

20 minutes ago, Lisias said:

2 hours ago, Bej Kerman said:

And not people going through the five stages of grief over a video game

And exactly why this bothers you so much? Why this hurts you so deep in your heart?

Going through the five stages of grief over KSP 2 doesn't seem ridiculous to you?

[Lisias]

13 minutes ago, Bej Kerman said:

Going through the five stages of grief over KSP 2 doesn't seem ridiculous to you?

Not as much as people getting bothered by it!

I'm not on their shoes, I don't know what and where they are hurting, and if they choose to find relief on some spacefaring frogs, who am I to judge them?

Edited December 7 by Lisias
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[Madrocketman]

I remember Nate praising my analysis of KSP 2 trailers back in the day on my older account. Nate had soul into this game, I think that's what made this outcome tragic. He wasn't perfect, but I can't deny from what we know that he did put his fullest into the game.

 

I can't think anything else other than empathy, I can't imagine having a dream job for it turn out as a nightmare and being the scapegoat for many by being the face of the game. I'm more so grateful now that I'm much older versus when I played KSP because I feel I understand how soul crushing this really has got to be.

 

I hope anyone who's still mad at Nate can find forgiveness at somepoint. Or at least understand the larger perspective that one single person could never be the reason for a game's success or failure.

 

Maybe a lesson that could be taken out of this is that it takes a village to make something great. And it's important to have the right resources and right management that compliments and acknowledges the pros and cons of each member. Which at the end of the day, KSP 2 never had under Take Two it seems. 

 

Apologies for the broken English, I'm exhausted halfway through finals so I'm losing my ability to make well versed sentences 

Edited December 7 by Madrocketman