Game Crash Madness

[Curaodo]

Greetings Kerbonauts!

I have great hopes of joining the world of spaceawesomeness that is KSP!

This game is insanely cool. But after watching some youtube-vids I learned that there is something called orders of magnitude in the realms of awesomeness.

Know that they are called MODS!

But that's when my sadness began. Because the mods cause crashes. Can someone please point me in the right direction? I have uninstalled and reinstalled and uninstalled and reinstalled so many times now in trying to eliminate the problem and find the incompatibilities. But I've eliminated all but the most vital mods and still the game crashes. I just can't live without the ones I've got now. So please help!

Here's the situation:

System:

Intel Core i7 CPU clocked to 3,56 GHz

12 GB RAM

64-bit OS

Mods:

[0.21] Procedural Fairings 2.4.1

[0.21] KAS – Kerbal Attachment System v0.4.0

Kosmos Space Station Parts Pack [0.21+]

[0.21.1] H.O.M.E. 1.0.5

[0.21.1] NovaPunch 2.02 – Updated for KSP 0.21!

[0.21] B9 Aerospace Pack R3.3 / Now with 176 parts and heavily optimized!

[0.21.1] KW Rocketry v2.5

Robotic Arms Pack

[0.21.1] Kerbal Engineer Redux v0.6.1.1

[0.21+] Update 30.08.13 Ion Hybrid Electric Pack v.2.2 IP-15 Fix

Kethane-0.7.7

(Hope I got them all.

I can edit the names to another format if you need.)

So here's what happens.

I load the game normally, and launch and fly around. But when some loading sequence is needed, the game OFTEN crashes. Such as when I need to reenter the construction hangar.

Interestingly these crashes often come on my SECOND reentry to the hangar, like 95% of the time for some reason. I can reenter once, but on the second load the game crashes. Also when flying in space and some loadsequence is in order like when you switch from Kerbin to Mun navballs the game crashes. And other instant crashes I can't explain.

PLEASE point me in the right direction. I'm new to this game, but would LOVE to master it like Scott Manley my hero! If others can use mods, why can't I? ¨

:,(

[Curaodo]

Is there any: "If your game crashes like mad, check for these things" -thread anywhere on this forum?

Or do I have to read through every post in every mod-thread for clues?

[Capt_Reynolds]

I know that for some reason KW and Nova Don't work well together.

[BostLabs]

That is a lot of mods. . I'll bet you are running out of memory. KSP is a 32 bit game and can only handle up to 4 gigs. You say you have a 64 bit OS, but you didn't say what OS.

I think windows and OSX are in the same boat. Linux may be different due to their beings a 64 bit version of the game for that. (Help me out here Linux users. )

Edited October 3, 2013 by BostLabs
Odd typos

[RuBisCO]

KAS 4.0! KAS 4.0! That your problem right there! Here watch this video, at the end is that what happens to you?

Yes, The Linux version is 64 bit, but I've been using a lot of mods with windows just fine.

[Curaodo]

No that KAS thing there doesn't happen. And I don't know how I could live without KAS. How can I build Mun bases without KAS?

[Curaodo]

OS is windows 7. I turned down almost all my graphics now, and the game doesn't crash that often. It confuses me tho. My computer can handle the processing, but the game can't? How can 12GB RAM not be enough? The crashes ain't visual or anything. The game just closes instantly, without a bleep or any delay even. Insta crash, no freezing, everything works smoothly a millisecond after. And I don't think I've got a lot of mods. Those are as few as I can go without feeling naked.

[RuBisCO]

No that KAS thing there doesn't happen. And I don't know how I could live without KAS. How can I build Mun bases without KAS?

Well you can always use KAS 3.1? But if that not the problem. I don't know. Yes perhaps its the shear load of mods you have but honestly I have more on an older computer and none of those problems. What you going to have to do is remove each mod and install one and a time until the problems start up again.

[softweir]

Hello and welcome!

KSP is a 32-bit game, that is, the machine-code instructions in it are all ones that operate on 32-bit numbers. Since that applies to memory addresses and a 32 bit number can only access 4GB of ram, 4GB of ram is all the game can use. The reason KSP can only use 32 bits is down to problems with the Game Engine (Unity 3D) that KSP is built on - Unity 3D does have 64-bit versions for Windows and OSX, but they have some very weird bugs and are too unstable to use for a big game like KSP.

Hopefully Unity Corp will fix the bugs and this situation will be remedied.

Until then, we have to be careful about how many mods we add to the game.

[UbioZur]

Is there any: "If your game crashes like mad, check for these things" -thread anywhere on this forum?

Or do I have to read through every post in every mod-thread for clues?

There is in the Support forum

Self-help for crashes - look here first if KSP crashes

However that forum is for non modded ksp.

Few things to check however:

- ksp.log in the main folder. It may tell you why it crashed.

- when the game crash it usually create a new folder with the crash data on it. you can find more useful information on those logs.

It does sound like a out of memory crash.

You can also try to remove all mods, and see if it crash, if not, slowly add more mods, until it crash again.

[Curaodo]

I turned down all graphics to minimum. Seems to work fine now. It must have been that 4GB memory limit the game has that was the issue. Thanks for the help!