[Design]Intersteller Starship (in real life)

[pat8996]

So i got this design (can't upload a pic because it's on paper and hanging up on my bedroom wall) the W/H is: 50,000 miles the length is: 25,000 miles and can hold all of earths population. Including the Animal's! Tell me what you think of this idea, and if this is up in orbit it will be able to be seen from the ground and won't look like a distant star like the ISS it will be like looking at the moon! vote on if this design should be presented to NASA.

W/H = Width / Height

making the Width / Height 50,000 miles it is best expressed as 25000xpi witch makes its diameter 78539.81634

and guys the government is already over $1trillion in dept so they wouldn't mind funding this thing (I Hope)

Material's = Steel, Bullet Proof Glass

It will be built in a Orbital Space Construction Yard (OSCY) just like in star trek.

life support Human output of the way you look or Filtered Pee for Oxygen and Water (ISS Does the Oxygen Part with a filter and converter), animals, and plants

and it has enough power to take us to Ceres and Land on Jupiter (if Jupiter has a surface) and get back to

earth in one mission. and it's going to have a sister ship that is 800,000 miles and that is ISC 5.0 and with be upgraded to 5.3 making the size of a Jupiter (probably). and can hold every thing that's on earth!

and if you think I'm Crazy your correct.

Edited October 31, 2013 by pat8996

[Holo]

Take a photo! It's completely implausible for the next century or three, but I'm a huge fan of artificial biospheres and absurd-sounding spaceflight proposals.

Also, at 50000 miles, it can probably hold a lot more than just the Earth's population.

[pat8996]

Take a photo! It's completely implausible for the next century or three, but I'm a huge fan of artificial biospheres and absurd-sounding spaceflight proposals.

Also, at 50000 miles, it can probably hold a lot more than just the Earth's population.

Holo, Earth's Population is Currently at 7 billion people and still climbing by the time its finished (my Estimated time of the finishing of this beast is: 2030-2100 if presented today and started next year) and it's not a biosphere its a ship that can go to other solar systems (with a warp drive) and it's 8 page's long and has over 1,000 bays including a bay for the ISS to be in.

[Holo]

Holo, Earth's Population is Currently at 7 billion people and still climbing by the time its finished (my Estimated time of the finishing of this beast is: 2030-2100 if presented today and started next year) and it's not a biosphere its a ship that can go to other solar systems (with a warp drive) and it's 8 page's long and has over 1,000 bays including a bay for the ISS to be in.

Still though, 50,000 miles is the size of Jupiter, which means that the ship is either going to have a lot of uninhabited space (which may be taken up by mechanical systems &c. or just "wilderness" type area with animals), or more than 7 billion people.

These bays interest me. What kind of things are the bays used for? Also, the idea of having a bay for the ISS sounds really cool for some reason. Reminding the inhabitants of the ship about the humble beginnings of spaceflight or something.

If you want to present it to NASA, they have a contest for space settlement designs: http://settlement.arc.nasa.gov/Contest/

[Voidryder]

pat,

I applaud your sense of adventure and ambition. You might want to take a look at concepts like Kalpana One. The 2013 Fall edition of adAstra has a nice write up with artist renderings.

[Vaebn]

I too want a picture of the wall

Edited October 26, 2013 by Vaebn

[cesarcurado]

It's hard to tell if we can't see it.

If you think it's possible to be done IRL go for it.

[Galacticruler]

even if you gave it to NASA, their budget would allow for storage of the blueprints until 2250. *Barely*

[pat8996]

even if you gave it to NASA, their budget would allow for storage of the blueprints until 2250. *Barely*

Galacticruler, This Design Requires a Orbital Space Construction Yard (OSCY) and will be a International Build so that every Contry Save's a little money plus it also Requires a Warp Drive and that's in development already so there you go

[Canopus]

And what are they going to do with it after you present it to NASA? And whats so brilliant about your spacecraft? You just give us dimensions.

[ZedNova]

I think it would be more plausible to add engines to the moon...

[pat8996]

And what are they going to do with it after you present it to NASA? And whats so brilliant about your spacecraft? You just give us dimensions.

What's so brilliant about it? you ask, Well it has enough power to take us to Ceres and Land on Jupiter (if Jupiter has a surface) and get back to

earth in one mission. and it's going to have a sister ship that is 800,000 miles W/H (W=Width H=Height) and that is ISC 5.0 and with be upgraded to 5.3 making the size of a Jupiter (probably). and can hold every thing that's move's on earth!

[7499275]

You are not really providing a lot of details about its constructions. Yeah you gave us the size of it. That's not a lot to go on. First off where will the money come from to support this idea? Two, How are we going to build it? (I.E what materials?) Three, life support systems. how exactly will they work? And four, FUNDING, being in a mostly capitalists world we need a better reason to colonize another planet then just because.

[Canopus]

What's so brilliant about it? you ask, Well it has enough power to take us to Ceres and Land on Jupiter (if Jupiter has a surface) and get back to

earth in one mission. and it's going to have a sister ship that is 800,000 miles W/H (W=Width H=Height) and that is ISC 5.0 and with be upgraded to 5.3 making the size of a Jupiter (probably). and can hold every thing that's move's on earth!

You are just making up a sci fi ship without really any physics behind it. Write a book or something but i don't see what NASA would need your story for.

[Amram]

What's so brilliant about it? you ask, Well it has no basis in reality

fixed that for you.

You do understand the size of the numbers your tossing around right?

Since you've got this all planned out.

Answer two simple questions.

1. What's it made of? Approximate if you like.
   Volume of an elipsoid, 4/3*pi*r1*r2*r3. Assuming a flat disc 50,000mi in radius, and a height that is 25,0000mi in radius.5 miles is 804,476cm, so tack on 4 zeroes since it was 50,000, not 5. 8,044,760,000cm.
   So: 4/3*pi*8.045x10^9 cm*8.045x10^9 cm * 4.0225x10^9 cm = 1.09053x10^30 cm^3
   Why cm^3?
   Aerogel is 3 miligrams per cm^3
   Aircraft grade Aluminum Alloy 2024 is 2.78g/cm^3, or 2780 miligrams.
   So we're talking 3.27x10^24kg.
   3.27x10^21 tons
   3.27x10^12 Billion tons
   3.27x10^3 Billion billion tons
   3.27 Thousand Billion Billion TONS
   VERY massive. for AEROGEL. To be fair, assumes a solid elipsoid.
   if Aircraft grade aluminum, 2.78g/cm^3, which is 926.67 times heavier, and assume 90% empty space in all 3 dimensions. 10%^3*926.67 times heavier is only 92.6% as heavy. So 3.27x10^24 = 3.02802x10^24kg If its solid, which it isn't.
   Say 5% volume is structure? Thats 19/20 empty space internally.
   1.514x10^23
   1.514x10^2 Billion Billion tons
   151.4 Billion Billion tons
   American Supercarriers are 100,000 tons fully loaded for a fight.
   1.514x10^23kg - 10^5 tons
   1.514x10^23 - 10^8kg
   =1.514x10^15
   1.514x10^6 Billion
   1.514 Million Billion.
   So this 1.514 Million Billion times more massive, for a completely empty hull.
   If it were 99% empty space, its still only 1000 times smaller than that, given the size, 1000 times smaller is almost insignificant.
   
2. Where did you get the idea this ~might be worth NASA's time? This is still well beyond realistic for any timespan for which we can assume NASA will still exist.

Its also the epitome of putting all your eggs in one basket.

Edited October 31, 2013 by Amram
derped a bit, hopefully better now.