Actually I had a great break threw lastnight with a design. I was able to take it off from the run way, get it into orbit at far out as 200k (where my station is), and then being able to de-orbit and land... Man what a great feeling that was! Missed the right part of the planet with the run way and landed somewhere in the desert, but the fact that it launched with no boosters, got into orbit, and still was able to land was a great feeling. No science points for recovering the vehicle, but eh, whatcha gonna do. Thank you and to everyone else for the welcome!