Ahh, Thanks for the quick reply Darren. Unfortunately that leaves me in the same boat as it still comes out as a 180deg angle at start. I need something that will start at 90deg angle if that makes any sense. hmm, had a thought that I'm going to try. Maybe if I mount the hinges to the bottom of the rovemate instead of the edge. I'll update if it works. (update) Tweaked it a bit, have the hinge resting on the small 45deg angle on the rovemate....isn't ideal, but the flange doesn't look like a snake that swallowed a groundhog. Unfortunately I realize that my com sat network is borked so i have to do some repairs. Laters, Loh