I AM MOOSE!! I know. this is how you achieve orbit. You build a slightly inclined track gradually climbing about 8 degrees. When a high enough speed is achieved the track changes into long large loops to achieve acxeleratio and velocity. . you leave the last loop a half loop. It will be acxelerating the payload in a slightly decreasing angle. you will be in vacuum being pulled down by the earths gravitational pull. leave fuel on earth, it is useless in space. in space you trust GOD first and the mighty Moose second. With moose you leave the shores and the linpid nobility behind, you know if their is a 'sir' in the name they only see your way as failure, for they loose their slave labour. With Moose you acieve your goals and dreams! moose PhotoEngineering engineering the solar wind with the age old success of men, the sailing ship. [=Kagame;2056398]I don't always use nuFAR, but when I do, I... keep trying to put turboramjets, scramjets, and closed-cycle engines on the same airplane, in a format that looks like this. It doesn't normally work, but apparently the B9 radial intakes were the secret sauce to get it working: http://i.imgur.com/xTTnZqs.png Scramjets: Instell Inc. Experimental Technology (Scramjets! Wheeee-BOOOM.) Wings: B9 Procedural Parts (gold for nuFAR users that can't get stock wings to area rule correctly) Intakes: B9 Aerospace (non-officially-released dev version from Blowfish, he's got a link in his sig) Nosecone with RCS: Mk. 2 Expansion Pack (more cockpits need integrated RCS thrusters IMO, just as they are in real life) Due to the absurdly high number of RAM-crushing mods, I'm not gonna publish a DL link for this one. Just have it as some inspiration.