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In fact,the BEST "Earth => Venus => Earth" trajectory can give the spacecraft the speed that can escape the Sun with ONLY 3.8km/s delta-v. But the problem is that it is so difficult to get the transfer window!
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Thank you for your help. I tried to change the plane at first. Then I found another problem. Let's see the information first [Kerbin-Eve-Kerbin-Jool]: Burn Information to Depart Kerbin --------------------------------------------- Total Delta-V = 3.645 km/s Prograde Delta-V = 3639.326 m/s Orbit Normal Delta-V = -206.638 m/s Radial Delta-V = 0.000 m/s --------------------- Burn True Anomaly = 294.594 deg --------------------------------------------- Burn Information to Depart Eve --------------------------------------------- Total Delta-V = 0.000 km/s Prograde Delta-V = -0.041 m/s Orbit Normal Delta-V = -0.000 m/s Radial Delta-V = 0.000 m/s --------------------- Burn True Anomaly = 0.000 deg --------------------------------------------- Burn Information to Depart Kerbin --------------------------------------------- Total Delta-V = 2.138 km/s Prograde Delta-V = 2137.568 m/s Orbit Normal Delta-V = 0.000 m/s Radial Delta-V = -0.000 m/s --------------------- Burn True Anomaly = 0.000 deg --------------------------------------------- It looks more correct than before. The "Depart Kerbin" delta-v is right. However,it needs 5.8km/s delta-v in total,going to Jupiter directly without flyby just needs 6.3km/s delta-v! I've heard that earth-venus-earth-jupiter[-seturn] trajectory only needs 3.5km/s delta-v! What's wrong with the trajectory which I planned?
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Thanks! Today I tried this tool carefully,it can save 1000~3000 m/s to Mercury , 1000~2000 m/s to Jupiter and 500~1500 m/s to Saturn. But when I want to try it in KSP,I have some trouble. This tool only gives me "Delta-V" "C3 Energy" and "DLA",but I don't know how to get the "Prograde Normal Radius" delta-v information. What's the way to get the information?
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I have been trying to solve the question for two weeks,but it seems I have not found a good solution. A mod named Transfer Window Planner IS REALLY FIT for RSS,but it doesn't support flyby orbits. (http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/93115) An application named KSP Trajectory Optimization Tool is a very great tool for squad,but when I tried it with RSS,it couldn't find a good flyby orbit. (Often need 20km/s delta-v,it is too large to be a good flyby orbit.) (http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/36476) I have searched google,but I didn't find any better tools or ways. Thank you and sorry for my bad English.
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I got it by "Create New Bodies File From KSP".Here is the file. [Sun] epoch = 0.000000 sma = 0.000000 ecc = 0.000000 inc = 0.000000 raan = 0.000000 arg = 0.000000 mean = 0.000000 gm = 132752533999.999980 radius = 696342.000000 atmoHgt = 700000.000000 rotperiod = 432000.000000 rotini = 0.000000 bodycolor = gray canBeCentral = 1 canBeArriveDepart = 0 parent = parentID = -1 name = Sun id = 0 [Kerbin] epoch = -31542641.784000 sma = 149494366.257098 ecc = 0.016096 inc = 23.446038 raan = 359.996500 arg = 102.972068 mean = 357.060746 gm = 398600.441800 radius = 6371.000000 atmoHgt = 130.000000 rotperiod = 86164.098904 rotini = 100.183300 bodycolor = gray canBeCentral = 0 canBeArriveDepart = 1 parent = Sun parentID = 0 name = Kerbin id = 1 [Mun] epoch = -31542641.784000 sma = 384308.437771 ecc = 0.053281 inc = 28.362678 raan = 2.296616 arg = 199.764093 mean = 222.701235 gm = 4902.800000 radius = 1737.100000 atmoHgt = 0.000000 rotperiod = 2356547.694659 rotini = 25.000000 bodycolor = gray canBeCentral = 0 canBeArriveDepart = 0 parent = Kerbin parentID = 1 name = Mun id = 2 [Minmus] epoch = -31542641.784000 sma = 2866832853.163975 ecc = 0.046207 inc = 23.672570 raan = 1.846090 arg = 169.687679 mean = 286.826736 gm = 5793939.130000 radius = 25559.000000 atmoHgt = 390.000000 rotperiod = 62063.712000 rotini = 230.000000 bodycolor = gray canBeCentral = 0 canBeArriveDepart = 1 parent = Sun parentID = 0 name = Minmus id = 3 [Moho] epoch = -31542641.784000 sma = 57908973.645888 ecc = 0.205619 inc = 28.602521 raan = 10.865412 arg = 66.903710 mean = 318.216208 gm = 22038.882800 radius = 2439.700000 atmoHgt = 14.000000 rotperiod = 5067031.680000 rotini = 190.000000 bodycolor = gray canBeCentral = 0 canBeArriveDepart = 1 parent = Sun parentID = 0 name = Moho id = 4 [Eve] epoch = -31542641.784000 sma = 108209548.790467 ecc = 0.006810 inc = 24.463976 raan = 7.981603 arg = 123.712129 mean = 311.245995 gm = 324863.624000 radius = 6051.800000 atmoHgt = 350.000000 rotperiod = 20996798.400000 rotini = 0.000000 bodycolor = gray canBeCentral = 0 canBeArriveDepart = 1 parent = Sun parentID = 0 name = Eve id = 5 [Duna] epoch = -31542641.784000 sma = 227949699.961976 ecc = 0.093261 inc = 24.692724 raan = 3.351911 arg = 332.102266 mean = 169.391313 gm = 42837.069000 radius = 3380.100000 atmoHgt = 170.000000 rotperiod = 88642.684800 rotini = 90.000000 bodycolor = gray canBeCentral = 1 canBeArriveDepart = 1 parent = Sun parentID = 0 name = Duna id = 6 [Ike] epoch = -31542641.784000 sma = 1883812.366574 ecc = 0.007973 inc = 25.440800 raan = 358.502256 arg = 320.735968 mean = 15.816140 gm = 7180.810212 radius = 2409.300000 atmoHgt = 0.000000 rotperiod = 1443307.267789 rotini = 0.000000 bodycolor = gray canBeCentral = 0 canBeArriveDepart = 1 parent = Jool parentID = 8 name = Ike id = 7 [Jool] epoch = -31542641.784000 sma = 778188938.659755 ecc = 0.048727 inc = 23.253133 raan = 3.262077 arg = 10.756428 mean = 302.581240 gm = 126686534.000000 radius = 69911.000000 atmoHgt = 374.000000 rotperiod = 35730.000000 rotini = 0.000000 bodycolor = gray canBeCentral = 1 canBeArriveDepart = 1 parent = Sun parentID = 0 name = Jool id = 8 [Laythe] epoch = -31542641.784000 sma = 1221966.238511 ecc = 0.028919 inc = 6.460493 raan = 126.494523 arg = 182.088677 mean = 75.161174 gm = 8977.864800 radius = 2566.000000 atmoHgt = 600.000000 rotperiod = 1377904.352657 rotini = 90.000000 bodycolor = gray canBeCentral = 0 canBeArriveDepart = 0 parent = Dres parentID = 15 name = Laythe id = 9 [Vall] epoch = -31542641.784000 sma = 5845670624.078222 ecc = 0.246277 inc = 23.612364 raan = 44.360998 arg = 184.494535 mean = 300.129730 gm = 870.957000 radius = 1143.000000 atmoHgt = 0.000000 rotperiod = 551856.672000 rotini = 0.000000 bodycolor = gray canBeCentral = 0 canBeArriveDepart = 1 parent = Sun parentID = 0 name = Vall id = 10 [Bop] epoch = -31542641.784000 sma = 9378.492209 ecc = 0.015399 inc = 36.324334 raan = 46.482126 arg = 357.775924 mean = 7.185121 gm = 0.000715 radius = 7.250000 atmoHgt = 0.000000 rotperiod = 27572.079609 rotini = 230.000000 bodycolor = gray canBeCentral = 0 canBeArriveDepart = 1 parent = Duna parentID = 6 name = Bop id = 11 [Tylo] epoch = -31542641.784000 sma = 1070823.468895 ecc = 0.001190 inc = 25.270714 raan = 358.012522 arg = 139.299257 mean = 232.675323 gm = 9890.200600 radius = 2624.100000 atmoHgt = 0.000000 rotperiod = 618549.572135 rotini = 0.000000 bodycolor = gray canBeCentral = 0 canBeArriveDepart = 1 parent = Jool parentID = 8 name = Tylo id = 12 [Gilly] epoch = -31542641.784000 sma = 23458.112018 ecc = 0.000329 inc = 38.277370 raan = 47.518936 arg = 263.896387 mean = 323.504034 gm = 0.000099 radius = 5.456000 atmoHgt = 0.000000 rotperiod = 109071.071004 rotini = 5.000000 bodycolor = gray canBeCentral = 0 canBeArriveDepart = 1 parent = Duna parentID = 6 name = Gilly id = 13 [Pol] epoch = -31542641.784000 sma = 422018.294524 ecc = 0.003546 inc = 25.464095 raan = 358.046643 arg = 231.270346 mean = 195.327409 gm = 5961.150060 radius = 1811.300000 atmoHgt = 0.000000 rotperiod = 153038.725670 rotini = 25.000000 bodycolor = gray canBeCentral = 0 canBeArriveDepart = 1 parent = Jool parentID = 8 name = Pol id = 14 [Dres] epoch = -31542641.784000 sma = 1424838758.613269 ecc = 0.053472 inc = 22.569923 raan = 5.970845 arg = 85.046612 mean = 67.468852 gm = 37931187.000000 radius = 60268.000000 atmoHgt = 830.000000 rotperiod = 38052.000000 rotini = 25.000000 bodycolor = gray canBeCentral = 0 canBeArriveDepart = 1 parent = Sun parentID = 0 name = Dres id = 15 [Eeloo] epoch = -31542641.784000 sma = 671253.637542 ecc = 0.009512 inc = 25.703643 raan = 358.936008 arg = 53.132107 mean = 276.265204 gm = 3203.386520 radius = 1550.800000 atmoHgt = 60.000000 rotperiod = 307000.532419 rotini = 25.000000 bodycolor = gray canBeCentral = 0 canBeArriveDepart = 1 parent = Jool parentID = 8 name = Eeloo id = 16 Thank you.
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Today I tried to get the departure information with RSS again.Here are the pictures. I just use the "Kerbin Departure Information" instead of "Fyby Maneuver Sequencer". But the problems are the same as yesterday's. How should I deal with it?
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I am using the tool with RSS(Real Solar System). It could work,but it couldn't work well. Let's see these pictures. I try to plan a flyby orbit like this. (Kerbin[Earch] => Eve[Venus] => Kerbin[Earch] => Saturn[Dres]) It seems no problems. But when I try it in Maneuver Sequencer,the results aren't correct. Burn Information to Depart Kerbin --------------------------------------------- Total Delta-V = 13.834 km/s Prograde Delta-V = -7771.358 m/s Orbit Normal Delta-V = 11444.292 m/s Radial Delta-V = -0.000 m/s --------------------- Burn True Anomaly = 255.975 deg I think it will only takes 3200~3700 m/s to depart Kerbin[Earch]. And the prograde delta-v is negative,the normal delta-v is too large,I don't think it is correct. Thank you for your help (and sorry for my bad English).
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