Ok, got home, restarted, after 5 mins, got an error code (not got one before, and had waited longer then that previously!) Error is...(Programpathblahblah) This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual way. Diomedea, now I've seen your message, disable security, then I'll restart twice in a row, and see what that does. Unfortunately, apart from the error I just got, I've never had anything come up.