Hi Toadicus, I deleted the old info and copied in the newest version of void. I still do not see the toolbar icon until I start to build a ship, then a new button appears (but it is just a blank white square), and the VOID windows open up as I have seen in screen shots. I also lose the ability to make maneuver nodes in the orbital map, but I am guessing it is a function you can use through void that isn't functioning correctly due to whatever problem I am having. My log file is reporting as 5,000 KB, far too big for that file sharing site, there another way I can get it to you? Thanks for the help! Bish