Sorry Wanderfound, Deltas are pretty, and if I wanted to fly a traditional plane Id just go do it x.x The aircraft has tons of pitch authority, It doesnt really need flaps so the flaps are set to provide 20 to pitch and roll, theres also a set of elevators between the engine nacelles and the main body. Other then a slight bit of sideslip around 10k its pretty much green thru out, but I get this weird circular oscillation the entire flight, if SAS is off it just barrelrolls the whole time and crashes, like I said in my first post I can get it into orbit about every other try, Im sure my meh piloting skills are partly to blame, but Id rather like to get the plane good and then just use it to practice until my skills are up to par.