Thanks. Yes I was referring to my previous post about sticky launchpad. I ended up just using debug to give me funds to upgrade my launchpad, good to know it should work with just the engines though. Edit: after some further testing the LV-909 even gets stuck on the Level 3 Launchpad. I haven't tested any of the other beginner engines, but I would assume they might do the same (this is with the 1.0.2b stickylaunchpadfix installed)