I have been struggling a little recently with KSP. When I do the math my landers have about 5000 Dv, but I tend to run out of fuel way half way back home or even before I have even landed on the surface. After a lot of trials and fails I narrowed my problem down to two things: 1) I am calculating my dry mass wrong and thus think I have more Dv than I actually have. 2) My version of the game is seriously bugged. The way I always calculate my dry mass of a craft is I just remove the stage and the have the new mass of the craft. E.G: A craft consisting of these parts: Stage 2: 1 x Command Pod Mk1 Stage 1: 1 x TR-18A Stack Decoupler 1 x FL-T800 Fuel Tank 1 x LV-T45 "Swivel" Liquid Fuel Engine This ship has a full mass of 6.89 tons. With the TR - 18A Stack Decoupler, FL-T800 Fuel Tank and LV-T45 "Swivel" Liquid Fuel Engine removed it has a dry mass of: 0.89 tons. We also have an Isp of 320 in a vacuum. Using the Dv formula: dv = ln(FullMass/DryMass) * Isp * 9.81 we get that our Dv is about 6 424.702, that's plenty to get to the moon and back (if already in a stable 70 KM orbit around Kerbin). This ship only gets to surface and not back. So what am I doing wrong?