I omitted your mod from the list because I thought it would be evident that I was using it since I was posting in your thread. Secondly a log file wouldn't of done any good as there weren't any errors, the game ran perfectly fine minus no toolbars. Thirdly please don't assume that since someone has a low thread count that they are new and don't know what they are doing(assumptions are why I don't use the forums). Lastly I resolved my issue by using the modmanager2.6.8 dll from another mod that I use. When I added your fixes in I overwrote the one that was already there and for whatever reason it removed, or hid my toolbars. cheers.