Hey Slash, thanks so much for the response, I'm not trying to call you out on your maths as god knows I'm at the bottom of the pecking order when it comes to the numbers I'm just asking as I was leaning slightly differently with the Delta v and needed to clear it up in my own head =) I would have though burn #1 would have been from Pe 2,270 to Ap, 1,575 as thats where your increasing to, with burn #2 going from the Ap of 1,575 to Pe 2,507 which gives me a total Delta v of 1627. I'm not saying your wrong It's just thats what I was thinking and Need to clear it up as to why thats wrong in my own head =)