@sal_vager I have rebooted, I have uninstalled and re installed, I have tried turning off my mcafee anit virus, I have tried moving the KSP folder directly to the c drive (incase it was a read only file issue) I have tried installing the older 1.2 version and I have tried a GOG version of it version 2.4 or something, I have tried cleaning my ram cache to clean it out a bit nothing I do seems to work and like I said it seems to always be on the pod internals displaying in the loading screen when the game crashes...... I appreciate the help as I am just itching to get back to exploring the stars